Sorry but Manik alone can't bring back the charm of Manan.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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I'm sorry but I can't pretend that Manan is back and everything is fine and hunky dory.
The STORY is the pits...heck there IS NO STORY to be exact.
Manan is full of random scenes, lacks consistency and the direction sucks big time.

The current Manan have no nuances in their interactions, not even that of a normal couple of Saas Bahu drama level. (forget our extraordinary platinum couple, this version of Manan is an insult to the original to be honest in my POV)
Even Dhurvlya acts more like a normal couple than Manan and I mean the regular normal variety...because I see many saying that Maman act like a normal couple now unlike S1.

Niti's looks bored and uninterested in her scenes with Parth, specially any scenes with even a hint of intimacy be it just those involving showing concern and care or the so called "romantic" scenes of this season.

The only thing that is note worthy and deserves credit for whatever Manan feels there is, is because of Parth for 95% of the time . Even with the horrible writing and lackluster quality to Manan scenes and cheesy dialogues, Parth manages to portray passion and intensity on Manik's part but with the shoddy writing and an uncooperative costar he can't sell Manan alone. Parth alone just can't sell Manan,...not with THIS writing and THIS director even if we discount Niti and what ever her problem is in portraying Manan these days.

I feel they should end Manan now, and carry on with the rest of the cast and free Parth from this.The director is obviously incompetent which is why he/she is unable to make Niti emote as she is supposed to even for these lukewarm scenes between them.
If Niti wants to continue, they can bring a look alike of Nanadani who can romance Arya, be bffs with all the guys of Space academy and have tashan with numerous Maddy's.

Just have Manan leave to Pune together to live with Manik's dad to live happily ever after and free Parth and us Manan fans from this torture please.

PS: I'm saying this irrespective of all the issues with how Nandani is being used to sell Arya, her friendship with Arya, lack of an over all story line for S2 and the loony saga called Mukti/Navya and adoption.
Even with all this if Manan charm can be brought back then the rest does not matter. But as it is now I feel that there is no use in even talking about these issues because its so irrelevant compared to how Manan is being diluted day by day..And actually with this Manan, characters like Arya is going to TOTALLY RUIN Manan if they continue in the same vain.

Edit: I'm eternally grateful to Niti and Parth for giving my Manan of Season 1. You guys gave me the best love story ever so far. And of course how can I forget RY and the great directors like Rajeev sir and the rest of the crew of S1. Kudos to all of you guys. ❤️
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Posted: 9 years ago
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So true all that u said actually they are wasting their time and efforts niti is behaving odd she isn't portraying nandini properly I don't know the reason but yes even m not able to connect with this manan I hope they giv a happy ending to manan and end it and yes s1 was far better I just wish richa Yamini could come back and give us manan moreover I think because of the new crew the actors r not comfortable in doing scenes or may b the new team doesn't.know how to handle manan and kyy n most importantly there is no humour or comic scenes which were there in s1 the main reason was cabir n now evn uttu left n this show is going no where the new crew can never bring the charm back and so people are leaving the show coz they know s2 wont work out poor parth had to come back for fans but now i feel his efforts n time r wasted i think coz of d new crew richa ayaz vishal n parth had left coz Dey knew it wont work out i think dey shud giv a happy ending bus
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I agree.
I am so frustrated with all these things..that I don't even care for HEA of MaNan. .just do whatever it takes n end this..CV'S , director and niti herself have contributed a big time to ruin manan royally.

Only parth n fab3 are putting affords. .
I don't understand niti..when everyone. .like everyone is maintaining their flow from s1 then what is happening with her? We all know she is brilliant actor..if she n parth hadn't put those affords in s1 ..then MaNan wouldn't be the same MaNan. .then why she is ignoring the fact for whatever the reason it is...
N those cv's n directors. .if we viewers. .the unprofessional who has nothing to do with direction n storyline can see that s2 is simply a hill of shit then they being so called professionals n experienced ..why can't they see what they are doing. .why can't they analyse s1 manan and the write the storyline according. .
Coming to the director ..can't he or she see the imperfection of the scenes between manan..there is no chemistry left..niti is acting like someone has put gun on her head..n wid arya don't get me over there..
Sorry for this rent ..but m damn frustrated. .no offence to anyone. .n sorry in advance if someone felt wrong. .jz my pov
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Salute you lady, you said it all for me, I'm watching the show more or less out of habit than anything, I'm watching season1 to relive the beauty of manan and kyy overall.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: sshaikh

So true all that u said actually they are wasting their time and efforts niti is behaving odd she isn't portraying nandini properly I don't know the reason but yes even m not able to connect with this manan I hope they giv a happy ending to manan and end it and yes s1 was far better I just wish richa Yamini could come back and give us manan moreover I think because of the new crew the actors r not comfortable in doing scenes or may b the new team doesn't.know how to handle manan and kyy n most importantly there is no humour or comic scenes which were there in s1 the main reason was cabir n now evn uttu left n this show is going no where the new crew can never bring the charm back and so people are leaving the show coz they know s2 wont work out poor parth had to come back for fans but now i feel his efforts n time r wasted i think coz of d new crew richa ayaz vishal n parth had left coz Dey knew it wont work out i think dey shud giv a happy ending bus


I don't know why but I personally feel that Parth can pull this off till Niti gets her mojo back regarding Manan, but only IF the writing and direction could give back the intensity and passion and the nuances in their interactions that were such a hall mark of Manan.
The directors can pin down Nandani for Niti where she fails specially as it looks like self motivation is missing from her part for whatever reason, for the time being.

Nandani used to be all over Manik with care and concern when ever he has any health issues which is in sharp contrast to how she is with the vulnerable situation that Manik is in right now.
The touchy feeliness on her part was mostly evident in these situations while Manik used to be the touchy feely person in general (though not altogether) while Nanadi responds back.
Also some good intense conversations are so lacking between them this season specially after such a huge thing has happened between them.

The writing NEEDS to kick in to accommodate ALL these things and only then can the direction follow or actors improvise to fill the gap.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: piyu008

I agree.

I am so frustrated with all these things..that I don't even care for HEA of MaNan. .just do whatever it takes n end this..CV'S , director and niti herself have contributed a big time to ruin manan royally.

Only parth n fab3 are putting affords. .
I don't understand niti..when everyone. .like everyone is maintaining their flow from s1 then what is happening with her? We all know she is brilliant actor..if she n parth hadn't put those affords in s1 ..then MaNan wouldn't be the same MaNan. .then why she is ignoring the fact for whatever the reason it is...
N those cv's n directors. .if we viewers. .the unprofessional who has nothing to do with direction n storyline can see that s2 is simply a hill of shit then they being so called professionals n experienced ..why can't they see what they are doing. .why can't they analyse s1 manan and the write the storyline according. .
Coming to the director ..can't he or she see the imperfection of the scenes between manan..there is no chemistry left..niti is acting like someone has put gun on her head..n wid arya don't get me over there..
Sorry for this rent ..but m damn frustrated. .no offence to anyone. .n sorry in advance if someone felt wrong. .jz my pov


Yup frustrating it most certainly is.And you are right about the fact that the character flow of others have not changed that much atleast not as much as Nanadani and Manan as a couple... and ofcourse Aryaman. But then Aryaman has taken many turns and is not part of the original cast but a side character.
Also Dhuruv...which actually looked good on him since Manik came back...but then his character is ending soon.

Anyways the point is Manan cannot be Manan without the required writing and direction and I don't see that happening.
Just hope that it ends by December the latest. Hopefully Manan would still be recognizable in bits and pieces till then if the zeal of the writers to push Aryaman above everything else does not completely destroy Manan.

I'm kind of coming to peace with this scenario now and I'll just go back to watching S1 to relieve my frustration and ignore S2.

And it looks like most enjoyed today's epiode so lets see where this is heading. Have no idea how consistent this is going to be though or whether today was another fluke like the drunk manan episode.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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you are right... yaar even if the director is bad.. he is directing both parth and niti... so if parth can do it why can't niti... as an actor niti is senior to parth... she is not even trying.. ..as for the character nandini.. .she is not the same nandini... this nandini is basically a flirt.. galti arya ya maddy ki nahin hai... nandini unko line de rahi hai toh unki kya galti... currently it seems that nandini is not in love with manik... i am not sure whether cv's are trying to show that or niti is not able to pull it... as for niti I'm done with her... koi kuch bhi bolo but parth is a damn good actor... niti is a very nice person but uski niceness ka achar dalein... if she is not able to get her act together then there is no use watching her...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: chattycatty

you are right... yaar even if the director is bad.. he is directing both parth and niti... so if parth can do it why can't niti... as an actor niti is senior to parth... she is not even trying.. ..as for the character nandini.. .she is not the same nandini... this nandini is basically a flirt.. galti arya ya maddy ki nahin hai... nandini unko line de rahi hai toh unki kya galti... currently it seems that nandini is not in love with manik... i am not sure whether cv's are trying to show that or niti is not able to pull it... as for niti I'm done with her... koi kuch bhi bolo but parth is a damn good actor... niti is a very nice person but uski niceness ka achar dalein... if she is not able to get her act together then there is no use watching her...

Very true. I think niti n nandini very badly affected by Kj n aryaman respectively.
Parth is very very good actor n really good humanbeing. He never use harsh words about any of his costars. Its ok if he not talk abt them ok click photos but he knows d our passionate n monster yet cute Manik malhotra. And he portrays d character so good that we never forget Manik in our life. Parth never react on his bashers and he loves his fans so much dat he came back only for us against his wish n decision.
I really respect Parth and wish all d luck n happiness in his life.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I am kinda done with the forum but this post made me comment again.



Niti has the tough job of the two. Not only she is the link to the crap that was sold in S2 but also to accommodate and transition emotions now that Manik is back. especially when they are trying to underplay MaNan so much. Not her fault that other stories were sold , Nandini WAS sidelined the entire time in S2 , if you cared enough to watch before Manik came back. Muted, blank and just a canvas- whole blame goes to the team .

You get that point, this is specially to those stupid senseless comments about how nandu is giving "line" and enticing Maddy/arya- I have critized the latter two characters a lot but never has it been Nandini's fault.

Niti had the tough task of not only selling out S2 with it's pathetic writing but two characters who were extremely likable. You get the transitions?

Parth has it easy, he was gone, slips back into MaNan mode easily because he is ot carrying the baggage of S2 and two lame characters to play off like Nandini.

Uncorporative co-star? Jeez, everyone who has followed this show knows PaNi has never let their off-screen dynamics impact MaNan. But there is no direction, no screenplay to their scenes and Nandini as a character is played around to make some sense. MaNan scenes are cute random bits , because there is no crew to handle screenplay.

Unlike Parth who doesn't have to connect the dots of S2 , Niti needs to connect S1 and S2 Nandini. Tough job.

Yes, the nature of their scenes have been toned down but thats more of a creative call.

Look around, co-stars are leaving, creatives are walking out- the brunt of it is faced by Nandini because she is the narrator and she is lost . Heck, whatever semblance and cuteness is coming is coz of PaNi as a unit. The maximum brunt is faced by Nandini/Niti because she has to adjust sell out contriving loopholes and reactions.



Either does Nandini gets those cheesy lines nor do the grand gestures ..alas stupid creatives but thats not Niti's fault. When she is given the space to perform like drunk scene or even today, she hits it out of the park.

Jeez, I can write more but then it's a waste, please carry on with the usual Parth vs Niti divide.


Show and story got over in S1- done, it's extended epilogue .



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Posted: 9 years ago
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Congratulations to this fandom for yet again proving that this show will always remain more about the offscreen mysteries rather than the onscreen clarities.

Genie pretty much mentioned every point that was needed to be said, yet I need to rant because no matter how much someone tries to talk sense on this forum, it will always get buried underneath the path vs niti divide.


I only have a couple of things to say out of which the first is the hypocritical state of this fandom and especially this forum. A group of us, early in the season ranted about how Nandini's character was being ruthlessly sabotaged. She was chucked around between two boys and fab 3's messy tantrums and ripped off all her emotions and words. People ranted. Fans criticised. Yet, this forum lent a deaf ear or rebuked. Oh why? Because it was all part of the notion of "moving on"? Nandini supposedly was allowed to tashan with random newbies but not cry because it was portray her to be weak and that was a character flaw of our female lead? Then returns manik and because of the insubstantial story writing and lack of proper execution, nandini's character is once again not given much space to express her fears and emotional state of seeing her manik back, but well let's all pass the blame to Niti here because she didn't want Manik...whoops Parth back in the show and so decided to portray a rather numb performance? Brilliant logic. I must applaud.


Secondly, one character, who was made the selling point of this new season. Was played off against every damn external character in this story.Was used as the means to make other meaningless stories progress, was numbed down to the core and was givenn scenes where everyone ranted, vented and yelled and she just stood there like a emotionless statue. Muted. This team never understood the value of a female lead. Niti looked just as confused during that phase too if not more because of how external characters were made to play pass the parcel with her. But well that's exactly the role of a femal character of a show isn't it? To be the secondary priority and sell the male characters of the show first because their hotness attracts TRPs? Some respect we all have for our show's female lead actress and her character. With Manik's entry in the show, she finally gets to smile. To express a little. To voice her thoughts. But well they aren't as loud and effective as Manik and so let's make this a parth vs niti thing. Again.
Whereas Manik's scene are limited to Fab 3 and Nandini and minutely Maddy, Nandini is still being used as the selling point of the show. She becomes the means Arya's one-sided love is being sold as some mahaan thing. She becomes the reason you're supposed to feel sympathetic for Maddy but well na, the idea that she gets used as the selling tool is again Niti's lack of interest in the show.


You have a problem with why Nandini didn't break down properly hearing about Manik's critical state? Cool. Why aren't questions being asked about where was Manik's anger when he finds out Nyonika was the reason Nandini could've died in the blast? But well I guess we will never ask those because it's totally acceptable that Manik's backstory gets diluted and ignored but Nandini's struggle to keep the season together and her diverted attention between all the other characters and her love for Manik is termed as Niti's disinterest in the show.


Male-oriented societies. Get over yourself fandom.


Please continue to watch the show for Parth's phenomenal acting and Niti's disconnected performance.



Edited by twinkle10 - 9 years ago

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