My 2c on the confrontation scene

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Here are my thoughts on the confrontation scene. Disclaimer: they may not be coherent as I'm just writing down whatever comes to mind.

It was obvious that Sanskaar was egging her on to break her silence today and literally backing her into a corner (or wardrobe) in order to get her to let out whatever pent-up emotion she had. I think he had a pretty good idea of what was going on in her mind and why she had been so silent, but he wanted to hear it from her. He likes to provoke, that's his nature and with such an important matter he wasn't going to let it go so easily. I loved that! He probably expected her to stay angry for a while and question his motives but I think the part about breaking the friendship took him by surprise. His easy agreement to this took her by surprise instead, but we all know that he wants to spare her further misery and if it means Swara having her way in at least one aspect of her life right now, so be it. I loved how he didn't let the pain and heartbroken expression on his face last too long and switched back to his more 'practical', focused self soon after to agree with her.

I noticed one thing, though. When she mentioned going their separate ways she broke eye contact...Why? Firstly, love or not, she knew she was hurting him as a friend, which goes against her nature, but she wanted to protect herself at that moment and put up the walls around her. (I think if they had been just friends, Swara being Swara would still have felt bad about breaking off their friendship). Secondly, she knew that she was being unreasonable and didn't want to talk about it. She kept cutting him off and prevented him from engaging in a lengthy discussion about his or her feelings. Unlike with Laksh, these two always talk about things, no matter how big or small. She knew if she let him continue, he would draw her into a deeper conversation and venture into uncharted territory (as if she hasn't done enough of that lately!). Thirdly, her subconscious mind was wreaking havoc - I think at this point she genuinely believes that he's just a friend and that there can never be anything between them. She hasn't had a chance to listen to her heart during its resting state. But something deep down made her uncomfortable which we viewers know as her growing attachment to him but which she couldn't put her finger on at that point.

I expected her to say something like "We've talked about it now, don't bring it up again and let's focus on the mission". I never expected her to say she considered the friendship over. I don't think she's convinced either, because she was surprised that Sanskaar so easily agreed to let her have her way. I think he knows exactly how she's feeling and is not surprised by her reasoning. Her happiness and peace of mind is most important and he will put her needs first. He still has the lingering guilt and will never hold her actions against her.

Sanskaar's maturity and loss of first love had made him cautious too about not saying anything (he wouldn't have done it had he not been inebriated). He repeated this to her, that he didn't want to say anything about his feelings. I also found it interesting how Swara snapped at him right after this and said "Why did you say it then?" And here is the crux of the matter. I think she knew deep down that he had feelings for her but as long as it was never mentioned she was fine. She was angry because he expressed it rather than leaving it unspoken. She doesn't want another friendship to love to betrayal fiasco, perhaps? She is human after all, and trying to do the right thing can take its toll. :)

Swara has been genuinely afraid of losing the one true friend she found for a while now, not just yesterday, because she does highly value this friendship with Sanskaar. From what we've seen in the show she didn't have too many friends and was super excited to have Ragini as a sister and confidante, followed by Laksh. Then she lost both and the support of her father too.

I don't think she feels up to sharing too much with her mother or showing her the depth of her pain because she wants to spare her mother further suffering. Hence she turned to Sanskaar for everything. But now, with this new 'problem' presented by his confession, who does she turn to? She surely can't go to him to talk it through, can she? (We viewers would nod and say why not? He is the one she should talk to about it, but understandably Swara doesn't feel that way.) She wanted one area in her life which is stable and confusion-free, but even that is no longer the case.

She has been hurting because of all the things that happened recently but hasn't had time to 'grieve' yet because she's had to pick herself up and go ahead with her mission. No one, not even Sharmishta, has really seen Swara at her lowest points except Sanskaar. With Sanskaar, she didn't ever hold back her thoughts or emotions. He knows everything about her, and has seen nearly every dimension of her, which means she feels more exposed to him than to anyone else. After the change in dynamics, she will never be at ease and that's why she blamed him for taking that friendship away from her.

Falling in love, and more than that, having a relationship would take a lot of her that she just can't think of giving, not just to Sanskaar but anyone at this point. I don't think she even considers in her head that Sanskaar is 'husband' or 'partner' material. She hasn't processed things to that extent, but her subconscious has always known he was attracted to her. She caught him staring on several occasions but ignored them earlier. He was about to kill Ragini for her sake! Now she can piece those moments together and deep down she isn't too surprised by his confession.

Laksh and she may have been in love, but I never saw the kind of passion in Laksh that I see in Sanskaar. (Yes, some of us here feel that it was just an infatuation, but as far as Swara is concerned that feeling was love.) Sanskaar's confession and protective behavior before that showed her how deep and strong his emotions are and that is way too much for her to handle right now. I guess it's a question of right sentiments but wrong time and place for Swara.

Going back to my earlier post https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/swaragini/4474676/is-swara-really-angry-with-sanskaar "Is Swara really angry with Sanskar?", I think the confrontation scene reaffirmed what I had said there. I think she also feels a bit burnt out with this emotion of love, in whatever format. I'm sure the way Shekhar treated her in front of everyone after Ragini's accusation of Sanskaar was also quite painful for her to take, even though she never mentioned it. Which father shoves his daughter aside so mercilessly, no matter how angry he is???? I was also right that Ragini and Laksh now have even more ammo against them regarding Sanskaar's feelings. 😡

What made me love Sanskaar more during this episode was his defiant "Don't expect me to say sorry for loving you, I will never be", etc.. So true to his nature! He may have started to do good things but is not afraid to get his hands dirty if it means helping his loved ones out. As I said earlier, a REAL MAN, mard ka baccha. Not to mention how Sanskaar stopped Ragini from trying to use his emotions to play dirty mind games with Swara. She is lecturing Swara on 'just choosing Sanskaar' as if it were that easy - why doesn't she make it work with Laksh, then? 😡

I agree with those of you who feel she is afraid of letting herself fall in love and be betrayed again; she doesn't want to start something now. Above all, the poor girl just has way too much going on at the moment. Her heart is overwhelmed by other matters right now and also as a woman she is indignant that her sister could stoop so low with accusations. Aside from proving Sanskaar innocent she has been very hurt that her sister, as a woman, would do such a thing.

One thought occured to me: Is Swara maybe trying to preempt a second Sanskaar heartbreak by being tough and letting him know early on that there's no chance and that there never will be? That splitting up after the mission ends will mean he won't have to see her day in day out and be tormented by his unrequited love, much as she thinks Ragini and Laksh are going through right now? Sanskaar proved his mettle and loyalty as a companion before expressing his feelings, whereas Laksh expressed his feelings and then 'betrayed' her trust. She still feels she owes Sanskaar that loyalty and doesn't want him to come to any harm. I don't want to talk about how her heart feels about Sanskaar minus all the mess in her life at present as that's something we can speculate forever - I'd prefer to wait until the story reaches that point. But I will say that she still managed to silence Sanskaar with a nod when he raged at Ragini - you can decide to part ways but the understanding and bond of friendship that has been developed cannot be turned off with a flick of a switch.

On a lighter note, maybe she is tormented by the thought of ending up in the MM forever if she marries Sanskaar ;)

Anyway, I've rambled long enough. Looking forward to next week's episodes. I do hope they show a few awkward bedroom scenes between them and mirror their first night in MM after the fake marriage but with completely different reasons for tension and heightened awareness of each other.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Brilliant. Just brilliant.
This is exactly the kind of vibe I got off Swara when I saw the epi.
Sorry for writing such a short reply for this insightful post, but you've summed up Swara's feeling perfectly!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ros_aavir

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Brilliant. Just brilliant.
This is exactly the kind of vibe I got off Swara when I saw the epi.
Sorry for writing such a short reply for this insightful post, but you've summed up Swara's feeling perfectly!


Thanks, I'm glad you could understand my rambling! 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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take a deep breath and say. "its just a show " and release your breath slowly! 😉
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Absolutely loved your detailed analysis. I was nodding vehemently through it all. I've said a lot of the things you did in various posts but not half as well as you did and I love how you took it through each of the elements from both of their perspectives! Brilliantly put and couldn't agree more! 👏
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Awesome post. You have written swara's inner turmoil very beautiful👏👏.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Once again, a detailed, very rational and well written analysis. 👏 👏

I agree with you on several of the points you raised, but differ with you on a couple of them.

Talking of where I completely echoed your rationale:

I also feel that the reason Swara is so irritated/ frustrated with Sanskaar's confession, is the fact that it disturbed the easy course of their friendship. She had grown to treat him like a favorite reclining chair, with the preferred recline level already set in! As you said, this particular relationship was stable and without confusion, so now she does blame him for rocking the boat.

I also agree that after the confession, she recollects all the care and concern he showed, how furious he was when people insulted her, and has joined the dots to realize just how deep and strong Sanskaar's emotions for her are. That scares her, since she is not in a place to deal with it right now. Yes, as you said, she definitely feels burnt by this emotion called "love" right now.

But I do disagree on a couple of other points.

One, I don't think she was aware of the fact that Sanskaar was attracted to her. Yes, she did catch him staring at her a couple of times, but he made some excuse, and I think she never proceeded with that thought. If you see the episodes where that happened, immediately afterwards, she was in a depressed mood owing to all that was going on in Shomi's life, and she allowed Sanskaar to console her by gently gripping her shoulders, even a semi hug. For a girl like Swara, that's HUGE. IMO, she would never have let herself be so free with him, had she been aware of the fact that he was attracted to her. She may well have been in denial, but was she aware, even in her subconscious? I think not.

But the bigger point I would like to disagree (or maybe it is just semi disagree) with you is on the sentence you said surprised you, where she said the friendship itself was over. I think you've kind of explained it away in the rationale of her mood at the time, but for me, this particular snippet of dialogue, seemed out of place. Not just in the context of the situation they were in, but for Swara's nature too.

I've already mentioned this in detail in my thread on this scene, as well as in my discussion with Kavya on her thread about this topic, so please bear with me if I am repeating several of the points from the previous threads. 😊

I would have expected Swara to just say "I can never feel this way about you, and am furious you even brought it up. I don't believe in this emotion called love anymore. Don't ever talk to me about this again, if you do, I will have no choice except to snap off our friendship".

But no, she says "Aaj se hum sirf mission pe dhyan denge. Aaj se dosti nahin, kuch rishta nahin."

This was surreal, and not in a good way, because she was simultaneously saying there is no friendship between them anymore, but still talks about "their" mission? What, exactly, is Sanskaar's mission at this point?? True, he was helping her out of a massive sense of guilt initially. But he is doing so now, mainly out of friendship & affection for Swara? If she cuts off all those ties with him, is she implying she is still tying him to "their" mission out of his sense of guilt? But then, this is completely unlike Swara isn't it--hasn't she already said at least 2 or 3 times, that she has forgiven him unconditionally?

I've seen some explanations of this very confusing sentence, that she was subconsciously negating her own take on the friendship ending, by also talking about "their" mission. I'm not sure I buy that rationale.

Swara is not Ragini. Ragini is--clueless? Bi polar? Schizophrenic?--enough, to in one minute say "Swara/ Sanskaar aise kabhi nahin kar sakhte" and the very next instant, accuse them "tum/ aap hamare saat aisa kaise kar sakhte hai". Its all part of her plan, of course, but apparently, she is not at all aware of the dichotomy in what she says!

But Swara isn't like that! She is a clued in personality, and I cannot believe, even in the stress she was in, she could not have realized this single sentence of hers, sounded so badly contradictory. Basically, this was a more grown up version of saying "I am katti with you, you & I are not friends anymore and I want nothing to do with you anymore. But still you have to stand by me for our mission"!!!

I realize I've gone on here, and sorry for taking up this much space. But the way I saw that scene, it was absolutely PERFECT till that unfortunate dialogue of cutting all ties but still focusing on "their" mission came in. Everything else, Swara's anger, confusion and frustration, Sanskaar's pain and heartbreak which he controlled and then reverted to his calm persona of saying he would never be sorry for loving her--was pitch perfect. I just wish that last dialogue snippet from Swara was better written.


Edited by CogitoErgoSum - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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So beautifully you described everything...Hats off to your choice of words and thoughts...
I dont want to jump into any comparison between leads, but I definitely liked one line:
"Sanskaar proved his mettle and loyalty as a companion before expressing his feelings, whereas Laksh expressed his feelings and then 'betrayed' her trust."
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@Cogito, thanks for taking the time to read through and respond to my rambling in such detail. 😃
I just wanted to make a couple of remarks about your points of disagreement, because I think I may not have explained myself well enough in the original (I was rambling, after all 😉) and that actually it seems we both agree on the same thing:

- First point: When Swara did catch Sanskaar staring at her earlier she didn't process it at all, she thought nothing of it. But after the confession all these little clues and observations she subconsciously picked up then made her see things in a different light. As I said, even now she doesn't see him in a romantic way but only recently has he been showing more of these signs too. He was always being a good friend but not overtly doing the 'more than friend' gestures, but the biggest manifestation of his feelings, in the form of aggression towards Ragini and Laksh, she chalked it up to his temper.

So in fact, I have agreed with you that she wasn't aware of his attraction, not consciously. The observations are so far back in her subconscious mind, that there's no way they would have surfaced given her conscious mind is so occupied with all the craziness. Or have I misunderstood what you were trying to say here?

- Second point: Again, what I meant to say was that I expected her to have the discussion with Sanskaar, be angry and then move on to the mission, but not stop the friendship or whatever! For me, as well, her saying she didn't want to be friends anymore just seemed off! It's not something she would normally do. Yet she exercised the right of friendship by silencing him and by expecting his contribution to the mission. There is no way she would want him to continue the mission by tapping into his sense of guilt. She's not built like that; she is not the type to forgive a person and then retract that forgiveness. So here too, I totally agree with you that this dialog/stance of hers seemed off. I don't know why the writers put that in - maybe because they wanted to set the stage for more drama and to frustrate us audiences further! 😆

I hope I have made a bit more sense in this post?! I'm pleased you found the post rational, but to be honest I just wrote down whatever came to mind without thinking of this as analysis. I love to hear from you and others on your opinion, so please keep the responses comin'!!!

Edited by inlieu - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: shakethebiscuit


take a deep breath and say. "its just a show " and release your breath slowly! 😉


True! But amazing how this pair makes us all worked up!

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