Capital punishment of india

Originally posted by: anael24

Now here comes the questions:

-this man has surrendered himself and gave all the evidences to the police to investigate the matter. Is it fair that when he got nothing to do with the crime to pay for it?

On the contrary the 25 year long investigations reached the conclusion that he had a lot to do with the crime.

why would someone drown his own brother??

There could be a number of reasons that may or may not be related to the crime so how is that question relevant?

-why the f did it take 25 years to close the case??

-to give every chance for a fair trial . Would it have been more satisfying if the courts had hung him on day one?

Supposed tgat this man was innocent,so he lost 25years of his life??

and suppose he was not.?? There is no end to the number of supposes that we can pose.

This clearly shows the incapability of indian laws and services guys.

How so? 😲😕 Kindly elaborate further how you reached that conclusion.

-Well everybody is aware that whenever there is an attack etc,the muslim community is targetted.

Thats a fact for all,right?

Is that a fact? and who are the everybody who are aware of this "fact"😕

Care to shed more light on how that is a "fact"

Provided that this man is muslim is it possible that the state ignored what humanity means??

Inequality is a social issue but when 1 person from 1 community is bad,does it mean that everyone is bad??

A rant desrves another rant right 😆 Provided that man was a muslim is it possible that he ignored the "peace" that Islam is supposed to stand for?

To the other part of the rant- A person happens to belong to one's community. Does that mean that he has to be innocent and wrongfully victimised no matter what the involvement may have been? How about the people of same community who died due to his criminal involvement?

India is neglecting those who have made worst sins but the innocents are paying!

You seem to have a strong evidence in favour of their innocence that the the courts must have missed. Kindly present it if you have it. Remember that the courts do not take personal opinion into account. The other culprits would also soon be caught hopefully and dealt with equal firmness.

As i said above im not indian so i cant provide all the evidences here.

What does being an Indian have to do with providing evidence? It did not hinder you from declaring him innocent😕

I just want to have a clear idea of the happenings

With all the heavy prejudices evident in the post I dont see the remotest chance of any "clear idea" happening ever 😆

Capital punishment is a "must" for india?

Yes

When it doesnt apply for all?

It is to be applied only to the rarest of rare case and not to all FYI 😳

Is this man really culprit?

25 long years of investigations seem to point out so.

Does religion plays when dealing with laws?

We keep reading something about Hindu law and Muslim law fhough ideally in a secular country there ought to have been nothing but a single uniform civil law. Make your choice.😊

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But is the TM? 😆

Originally posted by: anael24

Excuse me for the grammatical mistakes 😊

Originally posted by: anael24

Hii guys , well im not from india but this topic arised many questions and doubts in many people.As a foreigner,imdia's laws are the most corrupted ones.
I particular don't trust india's laws for many reasons but thats not the topic of this post.

That's not the topic but you said it all.Probably you had never been to India, so how can you come to the conclusion that Indian laws are corrupted? Yes there are flaws but then nothing is perfect. And actually, laws are not corrupt, system is to some extent. But that's another thing.


Well i think that most of you must have come across the news about that man,Yakub Menon killed after approximately 25years,fighting for his freedom. He surrendered himself after his brother and others made the massacre in mumbai.
A blast that killed numerous people.

He was also involved with his 'brother and others' and it has been proved. He had a hand in blasts, however small or big, it's something that doesn't matter. He was guilty and was thus hanged (not killed).

Now here comes the questions:

-this man has surrendered himself and gave all the evidences to the police to investigate the matter. Is it fair that when he got nothing to do with the crime to pay for it?why would someone drown his own brother??

First of all, let me clear that he never surrendered but was arrested on his return to India in 1994 from Dubai/Pakistan where he fled along with his family after the blasts. Everyone except his two brothers, Tiger and Ayub, returned. He came to Nepal by choice but was arrested on airport by Nepal police and was later handed over to Indian police. So, he never really surrendered.

Seven members of the family were arrested, out of whom, three were acquitted and four went through trials. Out of the four who were under trials, only Yakub was sentenced to death and not the other three who suffer imprisonment terms according to the severity of the crime they committed. Now, since there were acquittals and lesser punishment for other members of the Memon family, it speaks for itself that he was hanged because he was at fault, because he was involved in blasts that killed 257 (officially) and thousands were injured.

-why the f did it take 25 years to close the case?? Supposed tgat this man was innocent,so he lost 25years of his life??
This clearly shows the incapability of indian laws and services guys.

It was proved that the man wasn't innocent, so 'suppose' doesn't really fit here. It took so many years because of the legal system of India which gives several chances to the accused to prove himself innocent. Go through the legal system and you would come to know that why really is it lethargic.

-Well everybody is aware that whenever there is an attack etc,the muslim community is targetted. Thats a fact for all,right? Provided that this man is muslim is it possible that the state ignored what humanity means??

Here comes the hypocrisy. Not the nation but a certain community is being communal just because one feom among them was being hanged. Let me tell that Nathuram Godse (a Hindu), and Satwant Singh-Kehar Singh (Sikhs) were also hanged in the past for assassinating Mahatma Gandhi and Indira Gandhi, respectively. Just quoting the hangings of few non-Muslims here.

If the terrorist turn out to be a Muslim, how come the state is at fault? It has to punish him for his deeds. No question of community arises here. It's only the people from community that create hue and cry out of nothing. India is secular and respects every faith. So please don't drive the other way.

And if it were so, Kalam sir would have never got the kind of respect he got from every Indian. Actually, he deserved it and thus got. Yakub deserved a death sentence and thus he got it.

Inequality is a social issue but when 1 person from 1 community is bad,does it mean that everyone is bad??

I stated example of Kalam sir above. I think it said it all. My above answer contains answer to this question as well.

India is neglecting those who have made worst sins but the innocents are paying!

Name a few who have been neglected by the law. Elaborate please.

As i said above im not indian so i cant provide all the evidences here.
I just want to have a clear idea of the happenings
Capital punishment is a "must" for india? When it doesnt apply for all?

It depends on how heinous the crime committed is and everyone is equal before law. And in my opinion, taking 257 lives is no less than being a sadist.

Is this man really culprit? Does religion plays when dealing with laws?

Yes, the man was a culprit, though not the mastermind but he had a crucial and unforgivable role in the blasts that claimed and ruined many lives.

Now that depends on the perspective of an individual. People who relate everything to religion, keeping aside the rationalism, will think in the light of religion and others will not. And the latter ones are actual Indians, in my opinion. I may shout here that religion has nothing to do with the judicial proceedings but those who won't agree won't.

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