It's Between The Devil And The Deep Blue Sea For Ishita

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Posted: 10 years ago
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I posted this on the LU last night but felt it deserved a seperate post however was too lazy to post it then, but thanks to the encouragement of Roshnee, Shalz, Marilyn, Shravu and fugitives (sorry I dunno your name 😳) am posting it at last as an individual post

Watching the OLV I was also of the opinion that Ishita is going a little too far in her protectiveness for Adi and taking the thing of being a helicopter mom to a whole new level but somehow as I sat down later to think and saw the episode in the evening, my opinion changed especially due to the precap that we already knew of courtesy the OLV's


While I am not promoting or applauding Ishita' decision, I do think I see where she is coming from and this post may be considered as in defence of her, while I play the devil' advocate, then so be it...

In the precap what Raman said, its the truth - god' honest truth and you can make it out that the moment it hit him what he said, he regrets it that is why his "Go" is not as loud as his "Dafa ho jao" was, somewhere in his heart he knows Ishita would never harm Adi, but being who he is, he lost his temper and basically said whatever came to him.

But his words are Ishita' biggest fear and her deepest pain all rolled into one - that she is not a mother - not a biological one at least, even if she loves the children of the man she loves as if they were her own flesh and blood, she could lay down her life for them and almost did too, and yet it would never be enough - cause nothing can change the simple truth and the true fact that she has no blood ties to them and so no matter what she does this one thing - You didnt give birth to them - can always be used to hit her and is, it varies from time to time who says the words, uses them but they are used and they do hurt - only she lets on the hurt when someone close to her says them as we see in the precap - when Shagun and Subbu taunted her, Ishita doesnt react, she knows that they mean to hurt her and that is why she doesnt take their words to the heart cause in the end they dont matter to her but Raman does and so do his words which is why she is almost in tears at the very moment he says she isnt Adi' mother...

When I say not being a biological mom is her deepest pain - its self-explanatory, I dont need to elaborate on it but I do need to when I say its also her biggest fear.


Ishita' protectiveness and concern for Adi, a child who has an unfortunate history of being impulsive, self-destructive and also very fragile emotionally, made her decide to put on the spycam in his room; and the newspaper article might be the catalyst that made her do it - it is not entirely the reason she has become so weary when it comes to Adi...Like we know he has a history of doing things, and while he may be now certified by his counsellor as healthier than before mentally, it is also true that Adi has been through a trauma post that certification - namely having his life endangered due to an explosion, an earthquake and the trauma of being abandoned by his mother when he could have died...and couple that with his odd behavior which started since he is attending the science class he joined, that got him partying with friends who caused police to come to his home and his hiding things from Ishita, learning he impersonates his dad while talking to his friend' parents on the phone...it becomes a whole lotta mess...

In the light of recent events, in this age where anyone can be easily influenced, should their parents become careless towards them, Adi can end up back to his self-destructive ways, which I suppose scares Ishita a lot as a mother.

Remember, she has tried to get Raman to talk to him and while Raman is right in his own way that after a certain point you cannot treat your kid as a child, he comes across as too lenient with Adi and the biggest bone of contention is he and Ishita DONT have a heart to heart about how to deal with Adi, Raman either goes to sleep, gets a call or just makes Ishita think that he is too flippant about parenting his son. Its the classic case of good cop versus bad cop - with Ishita being cast in the role of the bad one here...just because she cares, a little too much... and that doesnt make her love Adi any less.

Also, its vital here - why Raman is the good cop and Ishita the bad one...Raman has been there and done that, as in he has been in Adi' shoes once - knows what it is to be a teenaged boy and also played a kind of father figure to his 3 juniors, his siblings , one of whom is Romi, a rebel in his own ways and yet all of them look upto him and so he knows when to let and allow a child to grow up, he has an idea of when he should stop trying to make someone feel like a child; not to mention the fact that he has spent years away from Adi and is now bonding with him which stir Raman' decisions regarding Adi, while when it comes to Ishita she has lived in a family comprising of only sisters and while she has a junior in Mihika, it isnt the same with there not being a lot of age difference between the sisters - she hasnt had to deal with a brother in his teen years neither does she know how to deal with a teen being the younger one in her own family.

If she too tries to become the good cop that Raman is being - Adi would have a whale of a time thats a guarantee...but it would also mean that perhaps he would begin to think Ishita is just like Shagun and he can make her dance to his tunes just by sulking and pouting - while Raman is trying to become a friend to Adi, Ishita is trying to become a mom, the only problem is in her bid to become a good enough mother for him, she is taking decisions that her son doesnt approve off...however can that be used against her?

She had been Ishita aunty for the longest time for Adi - she is now Ishimaa to him, earlier she knew her place was that of a stepmother, who has been accepted in the role of her husband' wife in the eyes of his son, now the very son considers her as his mother too...and so, she wants to be one to him...

However doing so, got her in a situation where she heard the words - You are not his mother...

If she becomes lenient, just for a moment pause and wonder, what if she doesnt care and Adi does something in the present scenario or something in the future - ...what do you think will be the biggest allegation against Ishita in the scenario - whatever it is, not necessarily a suicide - but say that po*n thing comes up and he tries to engage with Vinnie in something physical not necessarily intercourse but something sexual or even just a kiss, which we know can happen at this age or maybe he falls into bad company and starts to smoke or gamble, which is also known to happen to boys this age - what would be the first allegation levied against Ishita - That she is NOT his mother, that she didnt care or pay attention to what her son was doing or who he was keeping company with because he was not born to her...


So, its safe to say - Ishita is screwed in either ways - she is trapped between the devil and the deep blue sea...

While I am not justifying her move or defending Ishita - I am saying we should see where she is coming from too...

Recently, I came across these wonderful words which I think sum up Ishita' quandary and her situation to the T, her intentions are noble but her actions flawed...

"I myself am made entirely of flaws, stitched together with good intentions."
Augusten Burroughs, Magical Thinking: True Stories



The only solution to this problem is that BOTH Ishita and Raman need to come together to parent Adi and talk about things - Raman hiding things from Ishita is as much a reason for her bad decisions as much as Ishita hiding things from Raman, a reason for his hurtful words.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thank u Aani...šŸ˜³šŸ¤—

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A big applause for posting such a fabulous post where we r in the minority category here and there are a very little chances that our POV would be accepted šŸ˜†..So be it...

I'm in total agreement with you that Ishita is stuck between the devil & the deep sea & whatever choices she makes she would be crucufied for her role as Ishima!! After watching today's episode all I could say is that it was her maternal instinct which got her to do this act...And why do I feel that Vinni's company is not so good for Adi...I see a rebel in Vinni, a instigator. I want to know whether Vinni's parents r aware of her science project co-partner & abt her visits to Bhalla house. She seems like those people who believe in 'my life my rules' & care a damn for other people's opinion for that matter her parents too. Time will tell what kind of effect Vinni's influence will hv on Adi.


And the cruel verbal spat which we r going to witness on Monday!!..I'm just trying to recall one incident where Ishita has questioned Raman's role as a father after knowing him??? Has she ever Aani then plz enlighten me wit that episode for my better understanding of what people mean when they say Raman says things in anger & he doesn't mean them? Again and Again these scenes makes it look like Raman wants Ishita to shoulder all the responsibilities of a mother but he doesn't want to give her that authority to act like one! Sadly...

The lack of communication is the biggest drawback in their relationship!

Edited by mischief - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Great Post...
Parenting is the word that comes to take the most difficult test in the phase of teenage of the child, the age Adi is going through. Definitely to every child it becomes a war between his friends and his parents. It was for me as well. And due to the influence of the age and one's friends, it becomes a tough task for parents to let children understand their actual motive.

Off course everybody knows mother or father would never ever think evil of their child but at such a tender age, imposing restrictions and regulations only make Parents enemy in the eyes of their kids. And that is very common.. I am glad CVs are highlighting the issue and that too practically correct.

If we talk about Ishita and Raman.. They both have their own reasons.. Raman being a Dad would never understand the insecurities a mother goes through and seeing the past mistakes and attempt to suicide makes Ishita more worried about him. She has just got him out of the mess and doesnt want him to be in another. She has her reasons as they show.

On the other hand Ishita wont be able to understand the ways Raman wants to deal with Adi with.. Coz for her its the freedom he is giving to their kid and letting him do whatever he wants but for him it is the way to deal friendly with their child..

Both are correct and incorrect on their parts but Ishita is a lil more overprotective and that is causing raman to showcase his anger on her. Though he never means his words he should not say that she is not a mother claiming to understand the insecurities of a mother. Ishita as well should understand the difference between Ruhi and Adi.. Ruhi would take her scoldings and her strictness positively coz she knws her for long and her age says to obey her parents but Adi's age is different and that has to be understood by Ishita...


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: sakshi.ekansh

Great Post...

Parenting is the word that comes to take the most difficult test in the phase of teenage of the child, the age Adi is going through. Definitely to every child it becomes a war between his friends and his parents. It was for me as well. And due to the influence of the age and one's friends, it becomes a tough task for parents to let children understand their actual motive.

Off course everybody knows mother or father would never ever think evil of their child but at such a tender age, imposing restrictions and regulations only make Parents enemy in the eyes of their kids. And that is very common.. I am glad CVs are highlighting the issue and that too practically correct.

If we talk about Ishita and Raman.. They both have their own reasons.. Raman being a Dad would never understand the insecurities a mother goes through and seeing the past mistakes and attempt to suicide makes Ishita more worried about him. She has just got him out of the mess and doesnt want him to be in another. She has her reasons as they show.

On the other hand Ishita wont be able to understand the ways Raman wants to deal with Adi with.. Coz for her its the freedom he is giving to their kid and letting him do whatever he wants but for him it is the way to deal friendly with their child..

Both are correct and incorrect on their parts but Ishita is a lil more overprotective and that is causing raman to showcase his anger on her. Though he never means his words he should not say that she is not a mother claiming to understand the insecurities of a mother. Ishita as well should understand the difference between Ruhi and Adi.. Ruhi would take her scoldings and her strictness positively coz she knws her for long and her age says to obey her parents but Adi's age is different and that has to be understood by Ishita...



Thanks Saakshi and yeah parenting a teenager is by far one of the craziest things in this world, and while I am not saying Ishita installing the cameras is right, I am saying that whatever she does she is still said one thing - you are NOT their mother...if she cares and protects and even if she doesnt


Also like I said towards the end of my post both of them need to talk it out, need to understand where the other is coming from and NOT hide things from each other. Its the classic case of lack of communication which needs to be resolved. Like last night Raman knew Vinnie is gonna come to their home but he chose to not share it with Ishita - because he thought that she would blow things out of proportion should she come to know of her arrival, but had he confided to her and made her not feel left out it wouldnt have had the same result as it did yesterday.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Wonderfully explained Aani. Bottom line is that she is going to be in trouble either ways. I actually wanted to see her relationship develop with Adi in a different way. When she was still Ishita Aunty to him she used to be so careful around him. And I thought that would continue for a while . Like whenever he does something wrong I thought she would hesitate to discipline him and then probably Raman would encourage her to treat him the same way that she treats Ruhi and tell het not to show any special favours to him.
So for me Ishita suddenly transforming to this over protective mother is a little too much to take.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Great post, Aani!

I get Ishita & Raman's POV, and as an outsider they both are wrong & right.

In this show they have often shown either Raman or Ishita being stuck between a rock & tough place when it comes to parenting & in the end, the main thing to suffer is their relationship. Whether it be Adi's suicidal tendencies or this Vinnie issue, both Raman & Ishita have faltered in parenting & tried to choose what they felt was the lesser of 2 evils. Their main flaw each time - secrets & lack of communication, both of which won't be solved anytime soon! But for both of them - the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

As for the precap - it hits the jugular & bring into question Ishita's role in Adi's life. But what I have noticed is these types of confrontations are most often used when it comes to parenting Adi. The first time I remember hearing it was during the move out kaand. I'm not sure if I'm right with that statement, but the question always stems about Ishita's role in Adi's life...not Ruhi's.

Raman may have mentioned used the Ishima line in the child swap track confrontation night, but there he was on the defensive & the context wasn't the same. The main time he uses it on the offensive is when it has to do with Adi. But even if Adi has accepted Ishita as Ishima, the fact remains Adi was raised by another woman for 12 years. Ruhi on the other hand does not have anyone but Ishima as her mother, and everyone fully accepts that.

It's hard to see Ishita role constantly come under fire, but I guess that is the unfortunate reality of many women who are step-mothers even today.

He hit her core insecurity in his attempt to gather control of the situation whilst in anger, and I can only hope we see a follow up to this fight. Nothing will change about this ugly fights until insight is shared from both ends. Ishita is starting to stand up for herself & force Raman to evaluate his words by being the one to initiate leaving, and we can hope that brings a small amount of change. The anger won't leave, nor will the harshness, but he may start to be more cognizant of what he is about to say.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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luv ur post... bang on. u r rit.i want to add something. in eqrt quake sequence nobody suspect shagun cz she is biological mother. even they told it many time shagunn is the mother so she cant harm her own childrens. but for ishita, she always proved her luv for her childrens bt everytime she is accused for her actions cz she is not the biological mother. end of the day its all about biological father n mother who can kuv their child, who can beat their child, can only do the best for their child- a lady if she luv her child more than her hubbby then its a problem of if she luv hubby more than child then its another problem. Basically a woman like ishita has to suffer all the time... really feeling sad for her. parents fight r nrml for childrens bt raman brought that black past again. it could destroy ishitas inner strength. 😭
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Posted: 10 years ago
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you are absolutely right. Their main problem is lack of communication. Why they can not handle issues like real husband and wife. why all the time they end up hurting each other, though they do not meant that.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Brilliantly written post...thanx a lot for giving a clear headed analysis of the situation...i do think the cctv is taking protectiveness to a paranoid level but other than tht, ishita is justified in being wary considering tht adi is an impulsive kid with very poor parenting in past..she has been taking interest in him even wen shagun was around, this is not new...yes, she dsnt know how to deal with him yet..the thin line between being friends with a tween and showing authority is sumthn which takes months to years...and teens are terrors (i was too..lol) and ramanz approach on the whole seemed more balanced to me till his stand to get ishi out of home to invite vinni over..back to the crux of the issue with IshRa..they refuse to communicate...whereas, till date, the fact remains tht they work brilliantly as a team..
On the other hand, raman really really really needs to stop throwing ishi out or threatening to do so with each fight..yes, ishi gets into her maate mode very frequently which is annoying...but making raman turn into an abusive husband in every fight is a very bad move by creatives...not done!!
Raman shud also understand ishitaz situation as the stepmom..it goes without saying tht whatever ishi does, whether play the indulgent mother or the strict one, is gonna be scrutinized if anything happens in adiz life..and if he dsnt get it, ishita shud say it out loud to him so tht he gets it...ruhi is a tiny tot and even she has the capacity to twirl raman arnd her little finger...so imagine what adi can do..sum1 does need to discipline them...and unfortunately tht job fall on the mom..
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Very delicate issue, that's a last thing a stepmom would wanna hear from her her husband
But it may be a catalyst for their biological child coz in the early epis she was hesitant as she sailor claimed that she is fully content

Ramans slip of tongue could be providence sealing deal for another addition in family

Btw like this track

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