It's Between The Devil And The Deep Blue Sea For Ishita - Page 3

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Wings-of-Fire

I hadn't thought about it, then I read your comments and got terrified! But now that I've read about Vandu's baby coming out and the light moments it'd create, I don't think it'd go to that route!



Sorry for any potential scare 😳

But I still think all of this - the nature of their fights, the CVs genius idea of linking babies with the big C, Subbu/Shagun's recent taunts, the report, Vandu's upcoming delivery...it will all have some play into Ishita's decision to become a mother. It's not going to happen suddenly, but slowly they are building up more & more things to Ishita's potential pregnancy. I want them to show her wanting a child bc she wants to bring life to a child that marks the love between her & Raman, but just looking at the episodes recently - there are lots of potential. I'm not saying she will have a kid out of a sense of majboori but It looks like the CVs are slowly testing the waters!

The ball for this track has barely started moving on screen so I'm just looking at what's been shown to us thus far, but inevitably all roads lead to the pregnancy track, which is the last major cornerstone track of this show in my opinion! 😃
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Great post Aani and you nailed it. Ishita, as the stepmother is caught between the devil and the deep sea. Whatever she does, there will always be a third view, where she will be subjected to taunts that her decision got clouded because she is not the 'biological' mother of the children.
Shagun didn't save the children from the fire but practically no one talks about it and in a way Adi too has forgiven Shagun for it. As most teenage boys tend to be, Adi's character too is shown as living only for the current times, fickle. Love is there for Ishima but if it becomes too restrictive then he denies the relationship. No one said parenting was easy.


I guess for me, the most disappointing part is, Raman using the words,,,,'you are not his mother', wow! that really hurts. Whatever Ishita has done (CCTV in a child's room is really too much but then, even though the idea originated from Vandu, Raman needs to take the blame. He never showed to Ishita that he would take the correct steps with Adi...communication between husband and wife in this issue was totally out), Raman should not have uttered the words.

He lost his temper, but he could have pulled her aside and explained his POV. Every time, Ishita has been the understanding individual, the one who sacrifices, the one who needs to play the bad cop, the one who never gets rewarded or acknowledged...it can become very disheartening.

So, the parenting issue aside, Raman was a huge disappointment...



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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: mischief

Thank u Aani...😳🤗



And the cruel verbal spat which we r going to witness on Monday!!..I'm just trying to recall one incident where Ishita has questioned Raman's role as a father after knowing him??? Has she ever Aani then plz enlighten me wit that episode for my better understanding of what people mean when they say Raman says things in anger & he doesn't mean them?


During the kids swap track, when Raman had hid the papers after getting to know of Adi's intentions of committing suicide, Ishita said - " U r not fit to be a father. "


In the coming Precap Ishita says - " u do not know how to raise kids. " when Raman reminded that he was abandoned with a toddler and he took care of her, Ishita said - " it happened after I came back."

These r 2 instances which I can recall currently.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: JazzyM



, Raman needs to take the blame. He never showed to Ishita that he would take the correct steps with Adi...communication between husband and wife in this issue was totally out), Raman should not have uttered the words.

He lost his temper, but he could have pulled her aside and explained his POV. Every time, Ishita has been the understanding individual, the one who sacrifices, the one who needs to play the bad cop, the one who never gets rewarded or acknowledged...it can become very disheartening.

So, the parenting issue aside, Raman was a huge disappointment...




After Mr. Jhakkar revealed the fake phone truth to Bhalla's, Raman held Ishita back from talking to Adi. He did express his POV to Ishita clearly. When Ishita questioned about why did he stop her from talking to Adi, Raman had answered - " his son has come back to him after a long time and he did not want to lose him again. Secondly, this is the age where u cannot restrict him as a child. Give him space and he himself (I.e. Raman) will handle it. "


Raman did go and talk to his son, after which Adi did come and apologise to Ishita. When Vinnie came to the house, Raman had disclosed to Ishita that he was aware of Vinnie's arrival, which meant that Adi was on the right path as he was sharing things with his father.

When Ishita came back from SPA all of a sudden, and refused to go back, at that time also Raman had told her to relax and give kids some space as well as trust them and him, but Ishita escaped from there.

I think the above instances are proof enough for any person that Raman had a tab on his son and he will not allow him to wander away. Secondly, he had put forth his POV in front of Ishita several times which she decided to turn a deaf ear to. It was lack of trust of Ishita in Raman's parenting which led her to take such drastic steps.

So in the Precap, if Raman accuses her then this time Ishita had brought it upon herself as though there was constant telling by Raman to stop being so over-protective and leave things to him, Ishita doesn't give in to his heeds and finally does things which blows Raman's fuse.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thank you everyone for your warm and lovely response I am sorry for not replying to you guys today, life was busy and so I couldnt post 😳

Will try to reply to everyone as soon as I can, starting tomorrow since there are a lot of wonderful comments here - all I know is for once I am glad we are seeing Ishita as someone more humane, someone capable of making mistakes, because if she is shown as the crusader of justice and all things right its still hell for her and if she isnt its also hell for her, however this is in a more realistic zone of storytelling than planning to marry your daughter to the ex of your dil or his stupid revenge saga😉 😆😆



As it is we are all prone to not be perfect - and this is a lovely example of it which I would rather see than the above mentioned example, because I dont think just being a parent makes you right or perfect every time - its a process where you learn by trial and error.


There was a time Raman didnt know anything about Ruhi, when he took her shopping with Ishita during the custody track before his marriage to Ishita - there was a man there who didnt know the favorite color of his daughter, the size of her clothes, the kinda shoes she should wear but with time and with the realization that he needs to get to know his daughter better he became the father who eventually would know everything about her and be her most favorite person in this world...that was where Raman wasnt aware of how to be a father to his daughter but he learned it, six years too late, but he did thanks to Ishita and his daughter who kept on loving him always...its Ishita' time to go through the same cycle - learn her son, a child she has barely been accepted by in the role of a mother, a child who is in the perilous position of being neither a kid nor an adult rather a teen...we can cut her some slack and know one day she too would learn the ropes of parenting a teenage son and yet not overwhelm him 😳

However, for that one thing is essential and that is the coming together of Ishita and Raman as parents and talking it out; when it was Ruhi in question Ishita made Raman participate in her life, her activities, spend time with her...Raman has to learn to do the same - act as a bridge between Ishita and his son, rather than be the landmine that blows things up 😳


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Posted: 10 years ago
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i am sorry
but you cant condone everything under maternal concern


putting a cctv in a teenage kid room is atrocious


it literally means you dont trust the child


it must be so heartbreaking for the kid that mother he had just started trusting and loving is spying on him


it is breach of adi trust by ishita
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Posted: 10 years ago
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will wait fr ur further take aani...😃
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Aani great post! You always try to find the positive in every track. I agree with you and at the same time disagree with you.

Parenting is never easy specially when the child reaches adolescent age. Because the child is going through a rough and confusing change in life, parents tend to deal with it in their own way. In my household we have to sets of parents. My dad is more relaxed compared to my mom but when he needs to be strict he becomes strict.

I get Ishita wanting to be strict and protecting Adi because of his past record. Her wanting the best for her child is not wrong. However I will not condone her putting a CCTV cam in Adi's room. Its taking overprotecting to a whole new level. Every person needs their privacy even children and that is way beyond disrespectful not only to Adi but to her parenting style. Ishita should trust Adi because when his biological parents didn't understand, she understood him and always encouraged Raman to spend time with Adi and to make him feel wanted. However I agree with everything else you have said about Ishita.

Raman not wanting loose his son is understandable because his relationship with his son is finally stable. However he should not be so blind to his wrongdoings. I love that he wants to be friends with his son and I encourage that parents should be friends with their children but I also encourage them to become parents and discipline their child went in the wrong doing. Raman should be that parent.

The problem with these two however is that they are not on the same page when it comes to Adi. They should combine their styles to become a balance style.

PS. I do not agree with Raman's words but his anger is 100% justified.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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nice post. both I-R r right n wrong in their own ways.if we see from where ishita comes then she herself befriended subbu in teens n dated him so many yrs.then y it's not cool with her as a parent as adi is just frd with vinnie?i can understand her point as a parent.but cvs can show in some sensible way as it's a learning lesson for her about parenting a teen?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: mischief

Thank u Aani...😳🤗

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A big applause for posting such a fabulous post where we r in the minority category here and there are a very little chances that our POV would be accepted 😆..So be it...

I'm in total agreement with you that Ishita is stuck between the devil & the deep sea & whatever choices she makes she would be crucufied for her role as Ishima!! After watching today's episode all I could say is that it was her maternal instinct which got her to do this act...And why do I feel that Vinni's company is not so good for Adi...I see a rebel in Vinni, a instigator. I want to know whether Vinni's parents r aware of her science project co-partner & abt her visits to Bhalla house. She seems like those people who believe in 'my life my rules' & care a damn for other people's opinion for that matter her parents too. Time will tell what kind of effect Vinni's influence will hv on Adi.


And the cruel verbal spat which we r going to witness on Monday!!..I'm just trying to recall one incident where Ishita has questioned Raman's role as a father after knowing him??? Has she ever Aani then plz enlighten me wit that episode for my better understanding of what people mean when they say Raman says things in anger & he doesn't mean them? Again and Again these scenes makes it look like Raman wants Ishita to shoulder all the responsibilities of a mother but he doesn't want to give her that authority to act like one! Sadly...

The lack of communication is the biggest drawback in their relationship!


Hey Marilyn thanks for the wonderful reply

@bold - yep, cause thats his first word always - Ishimaa banne ka bada shauk hai, I dont get it why does he have to repeat the line always & the line does make it seem like he wants Ishita to remember her limits which means complete your duties but dont think you have any authority

@blue - the girl did come to Bhalla home without letting her parents know about it, she also said that its her life and she can decide who she can talk to after her dad complained to Raman about Adi, while there' nothing wrong with the sentiment - that you can make friends as per your choice but it also shows a total disregard of her parents' authority in her opinion which can be a bad infulence

@red - true

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