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Posted: 10 years ago
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Bang on the post aani)👏

I too found it wrong placing CCTV camera in a kid's room but ur post is like a clear water.. Whatever she does is for his welfare only.. Else what would be the necessity to her.. Your analysis on her behalf is extraordinary superb.. Enjoyed ur post..
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hey Aani 😃 Lovely post as usual. I love the kind of logic and depth with which you gauge every track.
For the first time today I only partly agree with you, which is fine I guess 😆

I agree with everything you said in regards to why Ishita needs to be a Bad cop. It's perfectly all right and totally apt that she is the balancing force between both the parents. And I get why she is protective and worried. Her intentions are noble definitely and there is no doubt on her love for the child. But the way she has taken and the reasons for which she is taking extreme steps are not entirely justified. Keeping a strict watch on the child for his betterment and to restrict him is alright but putting a CCTV in his room will lead him to feel that he is not trusted.

A child at his age in my opinion should be spoken to as a friend. Sitting down with him and telling him that what children at his age end up doing and what it results into and asking him if he wants the same. More importantly the child should be made to feel that he is trusted, so that his conscious is alert and he thinks twice about what his parents would feel if he made a mistake.

Coming to Raman, his words are hurtful and in NO WAY justified, whether we say its unintentional or said in an impulse. BUT is his anger really that wrong? Adi is a growing teen. Yes he is bound to stray and thus a watch is necessary, but by being so possessive won't they end up distancing the child whose just started to bond with them. I find Raman's way a little more relatable if not entirely correct. Like you said Adi has just taken a huge decision by cutting Shagun out of his life and accepting a new family. So like Ishita thinks that could still affect his mind, Raman thinks that being so protective would stifle him. He is being approachable and friendly to make him more comfortable in his surroundings. And at this point though the parents need to be careful because of his history (suicidal tendency, psychological issues, criminal offence etc) he also needs to be assured that his parents trust him. Showing trust will be more beneficial for Adi than to imply that he's being watched.

If you've observed I always end up coming to Ishita's defense but this time I can't because what has been shown reminds me of my own personal experiences. I've been through rough phases mentally ( low on confidence, easily stressed) and at such times the more faith my parents showed the stronger I became. But whenever I thought or heard of them being doubtful my confidence in myself dipped to new lows. So although Ishita is in every way justified in her worries and her intentions are absolutely noble, the way she has chosen is very very very wrong and for me nothing justifies it. And hence if the family or Raman is angry at her, THIS only time I do not blame them.

Having said that I am in no way justifying Raman's words because nothing absolves him of that mistake, although he did look guilty and I REALLY wish that this time, this fight between them has a logical conclusion.

PS. - I do think that this accusation though made in anger will lead to them being intimate for a child. I hope that this issue is dealt with sensitivity and not comedy.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Anku-


PS. - I do think that this accusation though made in anger will lead to them being intimate for a child. I hope that this issue is dealt with sensitivity and not comedy.


That is my worry...I was always curious about what would make Ishita want a child, and I want this to be her decision and if it's a result of Raman's outburst...then idk how I feel about it. It just seems to take away from consummation by constantly linking it to having a child. I don't understand why this was the only way to tie in infertility. For Ishita & Raman, their union should be a symbol of love & not just something done for a purpose. But this is all speculating, and hopefully it plays out more emotionally fulfilling on screen bc this is a cornerstone event for this show.

I maybe holding out hope against a losing battle but I would love to see them even have 1 treatment or doctor's appointment in their attempt to have a child. It would be so callous to women who suffer from infertility in real life who watched this show bc of Ishita's infertility if they show her getting pregnant easily.
Edited by -K.13- - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thank you for this amazing post Aani. Parenting is the toughest job in the world yet there's no proper guidebook or training available. Parents learn to deal with their kid with time and from experience. Besides the points you have risen, I think this fact also contributed to Ishita's actions. She's only been a parent for about a year and half that too of a really sweet baby with whom she has a strong connection. But suddenly she's the mom of a teen with troublesome past. That has to terrify her. She doesn't know this kid enough to know where he's coming from or what his limits are. Raman on the other hand can chill because he did raise him for six years and although he didn't get to act the part of a parent for a long time, he still was one. Although that experience doesn't necessarily make him a better parent, but it surely helps in coping with the fears that come with raising a teen.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Time and again they do this..but we YHM fans out here still haven't learnt our lesson. We have spent so much of time analyzing and putting our thoughts down on the upcoming CCTV camera and fight track. Going by the OLV, they have decided to turn this into a comedy track and with Vandu's delivery this is bound to get sidelined.
Sometimes I wonder whether the Ishita and Raman on screen are actually in love with each other? Since the time they aired this show we have been analysing and builiding up an image of these characters in our minds which does not quite match with what the CVs are trying to show. So obviously we are bound to get disappointed.I think its just DivAn chemistry and the emotions ..well that's all in our mind..😲



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Posted: 10 years ago
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Wonderful post Aani 👏 you've explained the situation at hand, especially about both Ishita and Raman and the reason for their conflicting parenting style very well. I am glad the girls encouraged you to post this outside of the LU thread.. The forum truly needs more mature Posts like these where there is a balance with objectivity in the analysis..
Loved it! 😳
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -K.13-


That is my worry...I was always curious about what would make Ishita want a child, and I want this to be her decision and if it's a result of Raman's outburst...then idk how I feel about it. It just seems to take away from consummation by constantly linking it to having a child. I don't understand why this was the only way to tie in infertility. For Ishita & Raman, their union should be a symbol of love & not just something done for a purpose. But this is all speculating, and hopefully it plays out more emotionally fulfilling on screen bc this is a cornerstone event for this show.

I maybe holding out hope against a losing battle but I would love to see them even have 1 treatment or doctor's appointment in their attempt to have a child. It would be so callous to women who suffer from infertility in real life who watched this show bc of Ishita's infertility if they show her getting pregnant easily.



I hadn't thought about it, then I read your comments and got terrified! But now that I've read about Vandu's baby coming out and the light moments it'd create, I don't think it'd go to that route!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thank you so much Aani for posting it separately...
even thou it seems from the OLVs they r going to turn it into another comic scene...however i will wait till i comment abt that...coz at times how the scene plays out is very very different...

About your post...loved it totally...ans so true... either way she is going to be penalized...thou watever the reason that comment by her husband is not acceptable...however again i will wait till i comment about it...so my comments will be based on the episodes aired till now...

Parenting a teenager is so difficult and when the parents are also new to parenting it becomes even more so...both Raman and Ishita is going wrong here and not understanding each other's POV...

Raman...

He clearly is taking a cool dad route..which is all fine.. but his attitude comes from "itne din baad mera beta wapis aaya hain.." which he said when ishtia challenged him to speak to Adi about the phone call...That is bound to happen..its like..i finally got my son..let him enjoy...i will not tell him hate me again fr disciplining him...

I was totally with Raman when he was cool about his going to the party... coz afterall its just kids party... but however when police came to drop him off.. he shud have just had a word with him... not to scold..but just a word.. but he was busy escaping from ishita...

then came the next point... Lying to you frnds mom about the party is a serious issue.. Raman went to talk at ishita's insistence...but before that he was all cool...hid it from Vinni's dad that he is at home... this is a small issue.. but hiding ur son's mistakes can result in serious issues.. which Raman shud be aware of.. so I was surprised that raman was acting all cool...

not a word of caution.. saying " beta, i understand ishima is overreacting may be... but you shudnt have lied...what image of ur family are you representing in front of others... that they encourage you to lie? next time..please share your problem.. i will ask your frnd's mom to let her go..."...

When Adi requested him to hide abt vinni and her visit to bhalla house...a parent shud say...i will try to convince ishima...and not hoodwink her...coz indirectly you r suggesting its okay to lie and hide stuff from ur mom if she doesnt like something...


Ishita

I think the whole concept of becoming a parent of a teenager boy is a lil overwhelming for Her..handling ruhi is easy...coz all u need is maternal instinct... but not when you r handling a teenager..that needs evolution of a mother too...

n it does seem like she is gettign a lil influenced by her mother's overinterfering attitude...
afterall we do learn from our parents...so she is not realising it, but she is becoming a lil over critical...and I found it so natural... tht ishita is afterall a human...who is bound to make mistakes too...

but is she totally at fault for being paranoid??..the fact tht the police did come to drop him off is bound to make her scared...even thou he is nt at fault... and the fact that raman is being too casual is further making her more paranoid...

its not about punishing Adi for his past, but you do need to be cautious fr someone who did show a psychological disorder not too long back...

I think I have mentioned ealrier in one of my posts..i knew a guy..single child of his parents who were trying fr a long time... highly pampered... got everything he wanted... once they refused to give him a motor bike, he tried to commit suicide...he was saved... he apologised and said he will never do it.. but then again one fine day for some trivial fight or something.. he jumped in front of a train n killed himself...

but then again..am i saying ishita is right at installing cctv..ofcourse she isnt... even if she is scared... what they both need is to tone down and understand each other.. I m sure they will eventually... n meanwhile...

.i do understand when u r angry u say things...heck i know... coz i m female version of RKB (wrt Temper) to my hubby's male version of Ishita...(🤣) but there r few things you just dont say...


PS: dont knw how much coherent my ramblings are...but here it is...😃
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Brilliant post Aani...Something I really had in mind but never put forth.
res...I have a big lecture on this,,,will surely come back to edit!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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very true aani nice post 👏, this time i feel neither ishita nor raman is completely wrong , its just that they both want 2 handle adi in their own ways and they r fighting over it so its natural😉😆 but ya they both need 2 realize and find a middle way😊 as cctv is too much on ishu's part 😲and too much leniency from raman's side too nt good 😕

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