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My dear Shreya,

I am sorry to be rather late with this one, but I am having to ration my typing, as you know. My dear, thank you for being so concerned, but there is no improvement to be expected till after the total knee replacement scheduled for end May, and perhaps 2-3 months of solid physiotherapy afterwards. Till then, I shall cope as best I can.

I am very pleased that you liked this post so much.

Now for Rudra of late, my take on his expressions is somewhat different from that of those who complain that he looked blank. As I have noted earlier on this thread, while the DM is uni-expression and Charles looks mostly befuddled, Rudra has a Zen look that fascinates me with its serene sense of control, over himself and over the course of things.

He is still, with the kind of stillness that exists at the centre of a spinning top. Or as they say, he moves, but nothing moves inside him. There is an eerie calm to him, a sense of coiled strength that can be whipped out whenever necessary. A lucid kind of detachment too, the ability to regard any situation dispassionately, and not be swept away by wishful thinking. Thus, when the others rejoice that the faux Dansh is no more, Rudra knows that this was too easy and cannot be true, and of course it is not.

The calm and the detachment falter, naturally, when he sees Shivanand's pseudo head inside that box, but then he has MB to seize him by the collar, so to speak, and pull him erect inside and out. They are a remarkable guru-shishya combo, and the contrast with Drish & Dansh is drastic.

As for the fair face instead of the tan, another point of contention, I suppose an internal transformation has to be accompanied by an external one as well! I look mostly at Rudra's eyes, like Arjuna and the bird, and the rest of his face matters much less to me, fair or tanned!😉 Or the sleeveless jerkin (it was not a shirt) either, and in any case, Tiwari is still not only suited and booted and complete with a necktie, but he even wears a sweater!😉

Rahil, my dear, could do much, much better. I too think it is the director's fault for visualising Dansh like this, when it is already not well enough written as a character. In any case, it was a relief that it was not Dansh after all who was bested by Rudra, the chocolate dispenser. That would have been turning a super-villain into a character from a farce. 😲

Last night, for the first time, I saw Dansh betray some emotion. There was a kind of hesitant anticipation in his eyes, anticipation and a dawning joy. That was when Leela announced that she would never tolerate injustice and so main naagon ke saath hoon. He looked, for that instant, vulnerable, and hopeful that she was coming around as far as he personally was concerned.

Whence the unexpectedly gentle touch to her face and the tentative question: Yaani tum mere saath ho? In that one instant, Dansh betrayed his innermost desire, the desire for Leela to care for him and support him. A desire that he has rigidly suppressed thus far, fearing that it would be seen as a sign of weakness, and that he cannot permit.

When she turns him down, and as he looks at her retreating form, Dansh's face darkens, but the earlier moment cannot be wished away. For all his alpha male arrogance and his obsession with dominating all around him, Naag Pramukh Dansh has an Achilles heel, and its name is Leela.
This will surely have major relevance somewhere down the line.

As for his doctored version of the naga-garuda relations, that is only to be expected. I was a diplomat all my working life, and whenever I had to make a pitch for someone's support, I told him/her the truth, but only as much as was needed and appropriate for the immediate purpose. That is the suppressio veri, not the suggestio falsi, and I would not blame him for that. Why would a naga make the case for the garudas?

Plus, even the good asuras like King Mahabali had a long list of often justified grievances against the devas, who, except for the Tridev, were no paragons of morality and probity themselves. Though the examples Dansh cites are incomplete and thus misleading - they have very likely been chosen so that Rudra can rebut them with ease later!😉- there must be many more where the garudas were on weak ground and the nagas had been deliberately cheated and humiliated. In fact, it sounds like a classic colonial situation!

My question is this. Leela is a naagkanya, and the daughter of the Nag guru. How come she has not been told all these tales of garuda deviousness from her childhood? In fact they would have dinned into her head from the day she was old enough to understand them. But here she behaves as if it is all totally new to her.

It is very odd, and a distinct plot hole. Shruthi thinks that it was a deliberate omission on the part of her father, the naga guru, since he feared that if she knew the truth about these cases, she might jump ship and go over to the garudas. That might well be true, but then there has to be a clear explanation to that effect some time soon. If not, my objection stands.

Well, Shreya, one cannot object to its being almost exclusively a Dansh vs Rudra struggle, for that is the way it always is in any tale of fantasy. The point is that for the garudas, who are all distinctly individualistic, their individual powers have not yet been demonstrated, bar the Rithambara pragnya for Thappadiya Mai. These will be made clear very soon, and then you will see that each of the garuds will make a contribution, big or small, to the cause of safeguarding the amrit kalash.

As for Thappadiya Mai, she will come into her own only at the very last, when her Rithambara pragnya will be used to locate the amrit at the earliest possible.

But bar Mr.Blue Eyes, who poisoned Maya, the nagas are an amorphous mass, with none of them being in any way distinguishable from the others. I suppose it will be the same as their special powers, of which, bar the ability to move phenomenally fast, one knows nothing as yet. I doubt if there will be different powers for the individual nagas. It will all be a Dansh solo show.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: sp108

Hello Aunty,

Lovely take on the week. And beautiful description of the qualities that the Garud Pramukh now displays. Very comprehensive. I loved it more than the actual episodes 😉

Aunty, I mostly agree with you. I like this avatar of Rudra better than his previous one. And I am not liking Dhansh at all. But I think Gautam was more nuanced pre-metamorphosis. Somehow, this Rudra looks less nuanced to me. And Seemaji steals every scene in which she is in the frame.

What seems to bother me most is the fact that the tale is now about Rudra vs. Dhansh. It is no longer about Garuds vs Naags/evil forces who want the Amrit. The highlight of MK initially for me was the ensemble cast, with each member having a very well scripted role. Just like Rudra-Maya love story looked forced, for me this Rudra vs Dhansh rivalry also looks forced. It is more than obvious that an overconfident fool like Dhansh can't win over destiny's child Rudra. So the rivals are hardly evenly matched. And that makes it boring and predictable.

And to top it, the star cast - MB, Shivanand and TM are hardly given any screen space. With Seema, even if she has a total footage of 5 minutes for the week, those 5 minutes belong to her. She is exceptional. However, last week, she hardly had any screen space 😭

After showing that beautiful chart of how each Garud plays an important role, and each Garud is unique, this sudden focus on Rudra alone is boring to watch. I agree that he is Garud Pramukh, the bearer of the sceptre. But what about the other Garuds. And why reduce TM to a nurse? I am really missing Shivanand. He and MB sharing screen space would be a treat to watch, not only because I like the actors, but I like the two characters as well.

Katherine, MB and Leela are the only ones who are holding my interest for now. I hope we see more of the Garuds than just Rudra. Ironical, because I always wanted to see this transformed Rudra.

Hope your knee pain is better. Take care, Aunty.

Edited by sashashyam - 10 years ago
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Thanks for putting out your weekly post against all odds, dear Shyamala...👏

What is the least painful position for your typing? Maybe you should try some unconventional worktable configurations that stress your knee less than the sitting position... 😊 See how we are not prepared to let go of our weekly treat, Wicked readers, you have!

Loved your character appraisals of the leading men and women of Mahakumbh. Spot on, as usual...⭐️

Last week and this, I felt the script floundered quite a bit like a fish out of water; it's only half-way into this week with episode 71 that quality was re-established. I still havent come to terms with Rudr looking like a fresh-faced Saras with Bigger teeka- Why O Why did you do that Mr Director???? If Maya were to wake up today, she could sue for misrepresentation and demand an annulment..😒 Not that that would necessarily be a bad idea in itself...😈

I have expressed my admiration on Arshi's Realignment thread for some of the attention to detail that the makers have displayed in terms of the artefacts and visual effects used in the show... Some of the images have been strikingly well-done viz., the chakras previous week, and Siva's disembodied head this week! Hats off to the team..

In their keenness to show the contrast between the Garud and Naga clans...the writer has highlighted different leadership styles, costumes, mannerisms, special effect - movements, and even language...

Choice of language& dialect as a writer's tool has been prominent in this show right from the start - remember Benares and Maimui/Udiya Baba with their Bhojpuri, Punnu&father with their Benarsi, Maya wit her Ilahabadi and Rudr jumping merrily between these boats...

In these latter days of the show that tool has been used so ham-handedly it has been quite jarring at times. For example, Leela and her tendency to speak English, Rudr speaking like he stepped out of the SP Mahabharat show...and even Dansh lacing his Hindi with Urdu (kaabil-e-tareef etc.) The last left a bad taste - I felt it was a stone that could have been left unturned. Really!



Originally posted by: sashashyam

...Rudra - A faultless take: All thru, as he grew step by step into the role of the Garuda Pramukh, Gautam's Rudra did not make even a single misstep. That he looked snazzy throughout is a minor bonus😉, but it was the rest that counted.

He was always controlled, low key, quietly determined, his clear, wide eyes reflecting an inner calm and certitude even as great danger threatened. He never gave way to panic even when he saw his father drooping over his bonds, his head lolling in a manner that would make a son's heart grow cold with fear.

There was leadership, yes, and a confident one, but no bravado, no strutting and posturing. There was decisiveness, yes, when needed, but not in an abrasive manner; he explainsthe reasons for his choice as best he could.

Finally, when it came to the crunch, without the slightest hesitation, and almost as a matter of course, he did his father and his guru proud by choosing the lives of millions of unknown human beings over the life of the only member of his original family still left to him, his beloved Baba.

And the best was that he did it not like a martyr, but with infectious energy, the will to succeed that was equally infectious, and the determination not to do or die, but to do and to stay alive. For a crusade like this one needs not martyrs, but survivors who can both win today and live to fight again tomorrow, and Rudra the Garuda Pramukh is one such.

....and Dansh: what could have been: You know, folks, the more I see of the handsome Rahil as Nag Pramukh Dansh, the more I am saddened by what the character could have been but is most emphatically not.

Dansh could have been a fascinatingly grey character, driven by memories, of the kind cited by his guru, of his race being oppressed and humiliated by the garudas down the ages. Someone who is intelligent without being foolishly vain, who can out-think almost any enemy (bar one, of course!) with cold calculativeness. Someone who is silky smooth and suave even in his villainy. In short, a fitting antagonist to Rudra's protagonist.

Instead, we get this relentlessly OTT megalomaniac, resembling nothing so much as a villain out of the James Bond books. Whose fits of insane sounding laughter end abruptly in sudden grimness. Who drugs himself on the latest and best in the way of zeher for his kicks, though I have to concede that he does the withdrawal symptoms well, like Maya and her asthma attacks😉!

If the character is OTT, the way in which he is played is even more OTT. As I prefer subtlety in all things, even in villainy, Dansh is not doing my teeth enamel any good! 😉

He is so black, blacker than black, that no possibility of his redemption remains, and he will have to be samharofied by Rudra in the final battle, just like the asuras in innumerable tales. So flat and predictable.

...Incidentally, I wonder when we are going to see the nagas as real snakes, and not as mostly faceless grenadier guards all identically togged out in black.

Leela: confused and confusing: I confess that I do not know what to make of this lady in black tights any more. I liked it when - even though she conceded that she could not escape marriage to Dansh, and would, after the marriage, be loyal to him, as it was her destiny - she protested volubly to her father that Dansh did not and would not love her, that he would treat her merely like "a lifeless decoration" for the interior designing of his life. I chose to overlook the point that as far as one had seen of Dansh, interior decoration would be the last thing on his mind, any more than it would have been on Gabbar Singh's!😉

Katharine: a question mark?: I personally believe that the drama that Katharine enacted with an angry Greyerson was a nautanki calculated to lull his suspicions, and make it possible for her to maintain a line into the Greyerson-Nagas camp. As a clever double agent, she can always feed inconsequential information about the garud camp to Greyerson and maintain her bonafides, while actually helping the garuds.

I base my belief on the attitude towards Katharine of the all-knowing MB. As I had noted above, MB is in the loop about Katharine's continuing link with Greyerson. Thus her murmur to herself: Main jaanti hoon tu kis se bhaag rahi hai. Jitna hi bhaagegi, utna hi tere peeche aayega!

Now, if MB had not been sure that Katharine, whatever her present compulsions, would not actually harm the garuds in any way, she would never have refrained from exposing her. Maybe MB is confident that despite the pressures from Greyerson for feedback about the garuds, and perhaps also Katharine's own conviction that she is a Chosen one, she will come to see the light soon and switch her loyalties totally to the white clan. And MB has to be right about the kadi jo garud ke sar ko dhad se jodti hai, as about all else!

...

Edited by happychappy - 10 years ago
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Hello Shyamala Di! What a great post just loved your review of last week. Sorry for the late reply.

Last week has come a long way from before. Loved this Rudra( though beautified) who is calm willing to listen to Bhairavi about his role as Garud Pramukh and following it dutifully. He has grown so much, realizing his responsibility and carrying it out. His leadership is not questioned by anyone.

Bhairavi is a force to reckon with. Perceptive. She knew Rudra would not have fully believed her had she been anyone else so she came in the look of Maimui whom he trusted the most. Now she has become his guru who points him in the right way waits for him to take the right decisions. At the same time knows about each of the other Garuds too. Hopefully we will know their strengths too soon.

You are so right about Dansh. He could have been made a much more sinister villain instead of what has been portrayed as yet. He is a good actor and could have carried it out with panache. It can be seen in some scenes how much more sinister it could have been. Sometimes a small smirk is more chilling than maniacal laughter. Dansh has no respect for anyone even his guru Drish is only accorded the basic respect of a teacher. He is arrogant and a psycho. Leela is so right in knowing him.

What is Leela's role, will she later help the Garuds? Have to see more of her. The Garuds may be the enemies but she has compassion in her to not torture them.


Would now love to see Bhairavi's backstory. Katherine's too. What is the reason she had joined Greyerson? The strength of the other Garuds, their enlightenment on their role and their powers. Shiva's rescue. So much to look forward to.

Edit : Thanks for the review inspite of your pain, Shyamala Di. Take care.


Edited by Kitsin - 10 years ago
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Anyone got links for yesterday's episode?
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Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Anyone got links for yesterday's episode?


Sandhya, you can view it on hotstar.com (previously starplayer) or on your mobile phone u can install hotstar app and view episode 72.
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My dear Shubha,

Of course I exert myself with these overlong posts for all of you, my faithful and supportive readers, for I would never be able to summon up the will to do it but for you. However, I also do it for myself, for it takes my mind off my knee! I have tried various positions, my dear, but one cannot type at a laptop without having the leg in front of one, and bent or stretched out, it acts up just the same! The only option would be get a lectern and type standing up, but I am afraid my famlly would never stand for that!😉 So I shall have to stick to the present instalment basis arrangement till about 2/3 months after my TKR end May.

So, enough of that. Your comments about Maya's likely reaction on coming out of her coma (which I hope will not be till Episode 120 or whichever is the final one😉) are wicked, but I do not share your dismay at the new Rudra's surface, nor at his expressions, which many earlier felt were blank.

As I have noted earlier here, Rudra has a Zen look that fascinates me, with its serene sense of control, over himself and over the course of things.

He is still, with the kind of stillness that exists at the centre of a spinning top. Or as they say, he moves, but nothing moves inside him. There is an eerie calm to him, a sense of coiled strength that can be whipped out whenever necessary.

A lucid kind of detachment too, the ability to regard any situation dispassionately, and not be swept away by wishful thinking. Thus, when the others rejoice that the faux Dansh is no more, Rudra knows that this was too easy and cannot be true, and of course it is not.

The calm and the detachment falter, naturally, when he sees Shivanand's pseudo head inside that box, but then he has MB to seize him by the collar, so to speak, and pull him erect inside and out. They are a remarkable guru-shishya combo, and the contrast with Drish & Dansh is drastic.

As for the fair face instead of the tan, another point of contention, I suppose an internal transformation has to be accompanied by an external one as well! I look mostly at Rudra's eyes, like Arjuna and the bird, and the rest of his face matters much less to me, fair or tanned! Or the sleeveless jerkin (it was not a shirt) either, and in any case, Tiwari is still not only suited and booted and complete with a necktie, but he even wears a sweater!😉

To revert, now Rudra's decisiveness is equally calm, and quick. When he sees that Rao cannot decipher the Two Books and feels that there is a missing link, Rudra makes up his mind at once. He will hand over the Two Books to the nagas, get his father back, and then later, he is confident, the Books as well.

I do not share his confidence on this one, and perhaps he does not either in his heart of hearts.

Rudra is taking a calculated gamble, of getting the brains trust of the garuds back, which he knows is vital for their mission. He believes that then, if they can get the Two Books back, well and good, but even if not, he is confident that Shivanand can cobble something together from his memory that will help them protect the amrit.

What he forgets is that Shivanand has never seen the First Book, and can thus have no memory of its contents to fall back upon in its absence. So, if the garuds get Shivanand back without the books, they will be in the same situation as they are now: facing a dead end.


Nor can Rudra be sure that the snaky Dansh will actually hand over Shivanand once he has the Two Books, though in his arrogant shortsightedness, he might well do so, assuming that the Books would be sufficient by themselves and Shivanand will not be needed. But if the naga guru takes a look at the Books, he will immediately reach the same conclusion as Rao, and warn Dansh against letting Shivanand go.

If that happens, what then? Rudra will be minus the Books and minus the brains trust as well, and he will have to fight it out in hostile terrain, and on his own.

But that is not the point. The point is that Rudra is now in a horrible bind, and he has to decide one way or the other for the buck stops with him. And he makes his choice. That is precisely what MB mean when she tells him, her eyes bright and compelling Jab aur koyi nirnay nahin le pata, tab tumhein nirnay lena hoga.

Since this is not real life, we know that Rudra will prevail in the end. Not many real life leaders have that!

I agree completely with you about the excellent artwork in Mahakumbh. My first prize would go to Shivanand's underground library-cum-hideout. It is as good as anything in at Hogwarts, and given the difference in the budgets, that is saying a lot! It is clearly a labour of love for the art director, is Mahakumbh.

I do not bother too much about the linguistic variations and the attendant slip ups here. It is simply the dialogue writer showing off. I am immune to this after listening to ghastly bloomer in mythological shows. The other day, Parvati's mother in DKDM was asking her if she was khush! And in the Ramayans, the latest truncated take, Sita's mother used the word jaldi!😲

Thank you for spotting and appreciating the Gabbar Singh joke about Dansh in the section on Leela. It has been one of the abiding sorrows for me in this forum that hardly anyone seems to spot and like my best jokes!!😭

Shyamala

Originally posted by: happychappy

Thanks for putting out your weekly post against all odds, dear Shyamala...👏

What is the least painful position for your typing? Maybe you should try some unconventional worktable configurations that stress your knee less than the sitting position... 😊 See how we are not prepared to let go of our weekly treat, Wicked readers, you have!

Loved your character appraisals of the leading men and women of Mahakumbh. Spot on, as usual...⭐️

Last week and this, I felt the script floundered quite a bit like a fish out of water; it's only half-way into this week with episode 71 that quality was re-established. I still havent come to terms with Rudr looking like a fresh-faced Saras with Bigger teeka- Why O Why did you do that Mr Director???? If Maya were to wake up today, she could sue for misrepresentation and demand an annulment..😒 Not that that would necessarily be a bad idea in itself...😈

I have expressed my admiration on Arshi's Realignment thread for some of the attention to detail that the makers have displayed in terms of the artefacts and visual effects used in the show... Some of the images have been strikingly well-done viz., the chakras previous week, and Siva's disembodied head this week! Hats off to the team..

In their keenness to show the contrast between the Garud and Naga clans...the writer has highlighted different leadership styles, costumes, mannerisms, special effect - movements, and even language...

Choice of language& dialect as a writer's tool has been prominent in this show right from the start - remember Benares and Maimui/Udiya Baba with their Bhojpuri, Punnu&father with their Benarsi, Maya wit her Ilahabadi and Rudr jumping merrily between these boats...

In these latter days of the show that tool has been used so ham-handedly it has been quite jarring at times. For example, Leela and her tendency to speak English, Rudr speaking like he stepped out of the SP Mahabharat show...and even Dansh lacing his Hindi with Urdu (kaabil-e-tareef etc.) The last left a bad taste - I felt it was a stone that could have been left unturned. Really!

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My dear Kitsin,

I am so glad that you enjoyed this post so much.

I think I did it because I so love being with all of you on my threads, and then again, doing these posts and writing responses to your comments takes my mind off my aching knee for a while.

I agree with all that you have said here, my dear, except that I do not think we are going to get any back story for Katharine. As Greyerson tells the 'Veshes, he found her and trained her for years in Poland, precisely because he had spotted the fact that she is a garud, to have his own garud mole in the garud camp. Clever of him, but in the end she becomes his weakness and then his Achilles heel.

Perhaps for Bhairavi, but even there I am not sure. She is a spirit clothed temporarily in a human form, and she must have been moving on from on 144 year period to another down the ages supporting the garuds. What back story can there be for her? Besides, even if they get a 30 episode extension, there is simply not enough time to go into all this. And there are some mysteries best left untouched!

I have to stop now, but a couple of points.

Re:Dansh, as I have noted somewhere above, there was a surprise last this week. In Episode 71 on Wednesday, when, for the first time, I saw Dansh betray some emotion. There was a kind of hesitant anticipation in his eyes, anticipation and a dawning joy. That was when Leela announced that she would never tolerate injustice and so main naagon ke saath hoon. He looked, for that instant, vulnerable, and hopeful that she was coming around as far as he personally was concerned.

Whence the unexpectedly gentle touch to her face and the tentative question: Yaani tum mere saath ho? In that one instant, Dansh betrayed his innermost desire, the desire for Leela to care for him and support him. A desire that he has rigidly suppressed thus far, fearing that it would be seen as a sign of weakness, and that he cannot permit.

When she turns him down, and as he looks at her retreating form, Dansh's face darkens, but the earlier moment cannot be wished away. For all his alpha male arrogance and his obsession with dominating all around him, Naag Pramukh Dansh has an Achilles heel, and its name is Leela. This will surely have major relevance somewhere down the line.

As for the other, about Rudra, do see my response to Shubha above.

Bye for now my dear. Till tomorrow, God and my knee willing!😉

Shyamala Di

Originally posted by: Kitsin

Hello Shyamala Di! What a great post just loved your review of last week. Sorry for the late reply.

Last week has come a long way from before. Loved this Rudra( though beautified) who is calm willing to listen to Bhairavi about his role as Garud Pramukh and following it dutifully. He has grown so much, realizing his responsibility and carrying it out. His leadership is not questioned by anyone.

Bhairavi is a force to reckon with. Perceptive. She knew Rudra would not have fully believed her had she been anyone else so she came in the look of Maimui whom he trusted the most. Now she has become his guru who points him in the right way waits for him to take the right decisions. At the same time knows about each of the other Garuds too. Hopefully we will know their strengths too soon.

You are so right about Dansh. He could have been made a much more sinister villain instead of what has been portrayed as yet. He is a good actor and could have carried it out with panache. It can be seen in some scenes how much more sinister it could have been. Sometimes a small smirk is more chilling than maniacal laughter. Dansh has no respect for anyone even his guru Drish is only accorded the basic respect of a teacher. He is arrogant and a psycho. Leela is so right in knowing him.

What is Leela's role, will she later help the Garuds? Have to see more of her. The Garuds may be the enemies but she has compassion in her to not torture them.

Would now love to see Bhairavi's backstory. Katherine's too. What is the reason she had joined Greyerson? The strength of the other Garuds, their enlightenment on their role and their powers. Shiva's rescue. So much to look forward to.

Edit : Thanks for the review inspite of your pain, Shyamala Di. Take care.


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