This is NOT a referendum on JodhaJalal! - Page 4

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Radhika fabulous post. You certainly made me think. 👏👏👏

I did not mean that WHY fans have to put pressure on CVs to punish Ruk - I meant WHY WE EVEN NEED TO DO THIS?? 🤢 Isn't it atrocious?

It is very disturbing to me personally that CVs do not feel a shred of responsibility about the message they are conveying. Like you said young kids might be watching. Is it not CVs responsibility and duty to consider this?

The message they are sending out with Ruk punishment free evil crimes is a person in position can do anything and never has to pay!
This is not something I want to watch.

Frankly I don't care what position Ruk holds - DON'T AKBAR & JODHA hold higher positions? When have CVs ever accorded them their dignity?

I remember reading about a scene Akbar telling Ruk she is nek dil aziz dost after Ruk had come fresh from drugging Salim 🤢🤢🤢 What this scene does is makes Akbar look like a fool!

Frankly at this point the ONLY persons CVs should be bothered about are Jodha and Akbar and their story.

Viewers did not ask CVs to turn Ruk charcoal black, when CVs have done this it is their duty and responsibility to show her punished PUBLICLY & HARSHLY. If they don't do this or do it any other way like a pathetic scene in her hojara where Jalal tells her off in few lines is JUST NOT ACCEPTABLE for the crimes she has committed.

In any era drugging a child repeatedly & murder were CRIMES. Ruk has to be punished publicly harshly & her position should not be hindrance to CVs. If Jodha & Akbar's position did not stop them from showing any atrocities - remember mirchi war & Khyber & Atifa & Ben?

Why this special respect for Ruk's position but not for Akbar & Jodha? 🤢

Even after considering all your arguments and agreeing - I simply cannot watch Ruk face. I did not stop watching JA out of boredom or losing interest - I stopped watching it cos of overwhelming negativity that made me cringe, watching Ruk face gave me headaches and nausea.

I will not watch something that glorifies a drug peddler - what Ruk did to Salim amounts to child abuse & murder - if CVs are not ready to punish her publicly then they should have thought of this before they wrote tracks showing Ruk doing this.

Frankly even the reminder of Ruk's fake pregnancy track, her MANY evil acts, making Jalal and Jodha into fools & serve her - that I watched all that makes me want to puke. So for me it will be either JA WITHOUT RUK or no JA. Sorry but my repulsion for Ruk is so much I cannot bear to watch her face.

CVs should make a choice now & someone should remind them - like you said THIS IS A STORY OF AKBAR & MUZ and viewers want to watch that.

NOT Ruk's evil ways her insecurity her jealousy her punishment free crimes her gloating her smirks her hukka her rampwalk 🤢

So it is upto CVs if they want to show viewers JodhaAkbar or cling to their Ruk obsession.

We will know soon enough.

I am glad after stopping to watch cos you also were not able to cos of Ruk - today you are watching. I can only wish you enjoyment & success for JA.

Like Cleo said, we only live once, after a busy day I want to enjoy what I watch - not something that makes me feel depressed or get a headache!

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Radhika.. Wonderful post 👏..really as Maddy said thought provoking.. Maddy ..just see your post is creating ripples ont he forum and forum rank increased overnight..!!! This is the magic when all of you come back to the forum... Love you gals!! You both rock.. as always...

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Neesha thanks for the wonderful words. 😳😊 Do you remember how many times our thoughts and posts used to be similar on Mansi's threads? It was like we thought alike! 😆

I just write what I feel. Really it was not easy to let go of JA addiction. It was not like any of us who used to love JA like crazy left bored one random day. It became unbearable to watch due to excessive negativity.

I remember Mansi had told me once - after SR episodes sbs CVs don't know what to do with the story! I had thought surely this won't be the case with JA - it is on the lives of Akbar & MUZ! Look what happened!!! Since the next morning Ruk landed 🤢 it has been all about Ruk 😡🤢 and her evil crime free ways.

Our beloved Akdha got lost somewhere, CVs forgot we wanted to watch their life story! To think the idea of leap was so horrifying that all of us protested vehemently against it. We could not even bear to think of losing out even 1 year one event of JJ's lives. How did things come to such a stage that viewers could not bear to watch, left in disgust??? It was just extreme sick negativity, Ruk centric tracks and for that turning Jodha Jalal into fools. 😡

I sincerely wish JA gets revived back to its glory. However for that CVs have to punish Ruk harshly and publicly and sideline her. What does it say about JA that most viewers have left due to Ruk but CVs continue to cling to her even at the cost of JA? 🤢

JA still remains in our hearts but the old one not after HH. How I used to wish they just forget all the nonsense they shoved on viewers after HH tracks and go back to that episode & Jalal rages at Ruk and shuts her up and punishes her harshly! Never happened!!!

I wish JA is able to get back TRPs with the current track. I would never tell or even hint to anybody to not watch. I just made this thread cos I feel RTPS have proved themselves, this is CVs test. As you immediately said if Ruk is back I can't watch. Exactly! Viewers don't want to "not watch" they simply CAN'T bear watching Ruk. 🤢🤢🤢 Punishing Ruk harshly publicly & sidelining her totally is the last chance for JA. Seems CVs are not ready to do that!

Neesha will send you PM, thanks again. 😃

Originally posted by: neeshaa16

@Neesha,
Radhika always makes me think. She is a wonderful writer. The best part of JA experience has been the early part of JA and more than that the many wonderful friends I met here on JA. I hope the friendships remain beyond JA.

We can only write when we feel for something deeply. I can remember old JA even now. What was left to write after HH tracks?!

Thanks, but I think it is Abhay who has got everybody feeling positive again. 😃


@Radhika
Even after replying to you I kept thinking about what you wrote. Especially the part about fans power. There was time when I was not even coming to JA forum, nor read wu.

It is friends who are now again watching JA - their threads made me come back to JA forum.
Who knows might start to watch JA again one day. 😆

However 😆 we all have our tolerance levels. It seems like some like you, Abhay, Donjas have found their second wind! 😆 I can only marvel at your positivity. This thought about the fans power and making CVs revert back to JA is very intriguing. I wish there is a way for the fans to force CVs to take a back leap & go back to end of HH track - re-start JA from there.
That will be sure fire TRP magnet!

Radhika - you wrote about camps on JA forum - unfortunately now there seems to be a camp of those who cannot bear to watch due to Ruk and those who are giving JA a second chance!
I am almost feeling as if I am failing some kinda Parijat, Akdha or even Akbar MUZ test!!!

For the rocking fan power I sincerely earnestly wish you success. Hope that you support each other in "Ruk times" 😉😆 and never give up the fight for Akbar & MUZ.

If there is ever a Ruk free JA then there won't be any groups left all will be enjoying JA again (except a few 😉😆). I will wait for that JA. 😃

Edited by MaddyO - 10 years ago

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Hi Maddy

First and foremost, I think let's remove this concept of a "loyalty test" from our minds. Like you have said over and over in this thread - we are not testing any viewer's loyalty to the show or the lead actors or the characters.

Only those who want to should see the show and others should be free to choose if they want to see the show or not.

I can't speak for others but I will speak for myself.

I stopped watching when Jodha became inconsequential in the show even in the eyes of her own son. Nothing had the power to turn me off JA except this rejection of a mother by her own son.

I am able to watch this track because there is some bit of reconciliation between Salim and MUZ. Today he actually touched her feet and his scenes with her were full of respect and love.

Coming to Ruq's punishment:

I feel this is the best time to leverage fan power to punish Ruq. I don't have too many expectations from the CVs but I will be happy if she is exposed and sidelined. And Salim is reunited with his parents.

I understand the crimes committed by her are grave, which is why I want to see her punished. However, some punishment is better than No punishment.

True, the CVs should punish her on their own. But if they won't, then we have to make sure that they do. Just because they have no qualms left, we can't ignore Ruq going scot free.

Am I enjoying the show?

Absolutely! Love watching minute details from history being shown in present track. It's like a hide and seek game, trying to find out the clues hidden in the show, linking it to real history. :)

Am I able to tolerate Ruq?

I just tune her out. :)

Yes, there r 2 camps - those who are ready to watch JA again and those who can't because of Ruq. I am hopeful that with Ruq's punishment, the camp lines will dissolve and everyone will be back to enjoying the show. 😊

GN :)