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Posted: 10 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: Donjas

Maddy, I am so pleased to see your post. I read it with interest. You believe that Rajat, Paridhi and the JA story have nothing to prove. I too feel the same, so do many others.


But I will be Devil's advocate in this post. Our leads and our story has legions of fans but there are some haters. People like actor Shaurya who ridicule fans and doubt the JA story, then there is that B grade CV who enjoys making mocking tweets, and all those from Ekta's production team who gave the poor advise for leap and the few Salim Anarkali fans.

For all these people, failure of Rajat and Paridhi to stabilize the TRP will be music to their ears. They will give all sorts of justifications of why things worked earlier and none to credit Rajat and Paridhi.

Rajat recently got married, almost immediately he is called back and involved in hectic shoots. Paridhi was going on a vacation, she too was called back and is working hard. They would not want to disappoint those who put their faith in them these trying times.

Ekta and the CV's have taken the serial to the depths, if Rajat and Paridhi can save the situation, it will be a feather in their cap and give them a lot of power regarding the portrayal of their characters and their future endeavors in this industry.


Well said, Donjas! 👏
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hi Maddy
Good to see you on JA forum! :)

I agree the CVs are not doing anyone a favor by bringing in JJ centric tracks.

Yes, they know that JA / RTPS work. Which is why even during SA track, they always showed a few lollypop scenes of JA.

Yes, the CVs are not to be trusted and have shoved sadistic tracks down our throats using RTPS/JA as the medium.

Why am I then watching JA again now? Because the track is good and based on history. The NR is weird - insect havoc? - but still the track is interesting.

Ekta tried the SA track and leap on some wrong advice and failed. She asked the CVs to revert to JA/RTPS. If still the TRPs don't increase, then the entire blame for the show's failure will be put on RTPS and the PH will not then think that they are magic and they had been responsible for taking the show to the top. If the TRPs don't increase, then the CVs can tell Ekta that JJ centric tracks don't work. That history-inspired tracks don't work.

We are not doing the CVs a favor. But we are giving them our feedback by watching JA tracks and boycotting SA tracks/leap tracks. We are giving them the signal that we are ready to watch these kind of tracks but not those kind.

I am not saying you should watch. No, forcing anyone to watch is not good. Every viewer should watch the program ONLY if they want to and enjoy watching it, not for any other reason. And definitely time is a major constraint. LOL

I am no longer addicted to JA or any other program. I watch an episode of any show when I can. Otherwise no issues. :) Right now, I do try to watch JA because I want this track to do well and prop up RTPS. No hero/heroine can rest on past laurels. They are only as good as the latest TRPs. The CVs don't like them. And are waiting to dump them. I want RTPS to succeed and prove that good actors / good story always rule the roost. :)


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Wish a lazy happy Sunday everybody. 😃

Thanks for so many wonderful replies.
I have left watching JA but I am still here on JA forum cos of the so many wonderful friends here. They enriched my JA experience, I read so many wonderful thinkers writers here.

Susan & Abhay, sometimes Bhavana's threads have been my link to JA. Thanks Susan for your wonderful threads - I really love them cos they remind me of the good times of JA - when I also loved them like crazy.
I would rather keep those in mind - not the later part!

Thanks for posting your wonderful candid views to

Anael - exactly - at this stage viewers will be doing the favor not vice versa! - glad you are watching for yourself, hope you enjoy 😆

Sabdabhala - I agree with you totally. 👍🏼 I am also not willing to watch any crap just to get to watch Akdha!

Cleo - I am SO DONE with the negativity that was JA. Agree totally I would rather watch something that is entertaining not something that makes me feel sick!

Prav2 - Priya 😃🤗 so great to meet you after ages. Thanks & wish a wonderful happy healthy successful year to you.
It seems we each had our "had enough of this" point when we could no longer bear to watch. I agree - hope those who are watching get to enjoy.

Susan 😃 - YOU are still my link to JA. Your threads are the best cos you remind viewers of how much magic JJ brought. I don't trust these CVs.

Preet - 😃
🤗 love you too. Waiting! 😆

Diksha -
😃 - I don't trust these CVs at all. If they really wanted a turnaround they would have given viewers what they wanted - Ruk punished & sidelined. There are some who can still watch JA for RTPS and Akdha - I hope for your sake you enjoy watching.

Donjas - very interesting post. Frankly I would not spare a second's thought to what the actor & writer (I consider him C grade!) think. I have learnt on JA forum no matter how many proofs are given there are those who will still try to negate every proof. To each their own!

I will be hugely glad for RTPS's sake if they can revive JA. However, I still stand by what I wrote - I firmly believe they have nothing to prove. It is rather a test of CVs - they are the ones who turned loyal viewers away by their sick horribly negative tracks.

If you read the replies on this thread, or Radhika's thread (about Ruk punishment) you will see there is NOT A SINGLE PERSON who stopped watching cos of Akdha or RTPS. Rather they kept watching even when they were clearly hating JA ONLY cos of their love for Akdha.

So it is CVs test not RTPS. It comes down to if viewers are willing to trust the CVs again?

Let some narrow minded people think what they like - anybody who denies the huge success & magic of JA was due in large part to RTPS - are head buried in the sand, refusing the see the reality kind! I won't waste my time worrying what these people believe! I am sure PHs don't go by what some C grade writer or small time actor thinks! They would KNOW the power & magic of RTPS and their star power.


Neesha 😃🤗 so glad to read your post.
What about RTPS and their hard work? This is exactly the reason CVs were arrogant enough and dared to shove horribly sick negative tracks on viewers - cos no matter what crap they showed viewers watched for RTPS. You said will watch only till Ruks is back - I read thread here that Ruk is back! 😆

Hi Suganya 😃🤗 - meeting you also after ages. 😆 Wonderful post. I agree with you that concerned viewers who loved JA like crazy kept giving feedback - calls to zee, on facebook, twitter, here - anyway they can against the leaps, that they were hating the negativity - how JJ were made to look like fools - CVs just totally ignored, with brazen disregard for falling TRPs also. It is only when Ekta got involved that they are making a pretense of trying!

Why would they need for Ekta to tell them? Couldn't they SEE what they were doing to JA? Historical? Have they left a single character with dignity?

I hope for your sake you enjoy JA again.

Sweet - thanks so much. 😃

Nabiii - 😃 I agree 100% totally with your post. Bang on 👏👏👏
Can CVs give a satisfactory reply to your questions? Every point you raised is valid and needed.


Giannita 😃 I agree with you totally. Viewers will be doing a huge favor not vice versa! As for the writer - NO comments! 🤢

This was said to be Ekta's dream project! I also find it unbelievable that she did not know what was happening! If she really did not - then she chose wrong person/s to manage JA - who totally ruined it.

Why did it take so long for her to get involved? At this stage when viewers have left in disgust? Why couldn't she hire better writers for her dream project? Why leave it in the hands of her sbs stable who totally destroyed it?

Radhika - I firmly believe RT PS have nothing to left to prove - in regards to JA. They are the ones why TRPs are still what they are! Cos addicted viewers still watch cos they cannot stop - for love of Akdha!

It is not in your or my control what Cvs tell Ekta or what she will believe!
For whatever reason or whoever told her & she believed that SA will work and her writers seem to have convinced her that they had no story to tell! It boggles my mind that 42 years of event filled magnificent lives and her writers could not write tracks on them! They took what 22-25? years leaps!

Shows are running for 5+ years on some channels. JA had the potential to run for more. To think that when I started watching JA I felt this is one serial I can watch for years! What material they had, if only they did not choose sbs writers for JA. CVs are totally responsible for what JA is currently.

IF anybody will tell her that RTPS do not bring TRPs now or historical tracks do not work and she believes them - can viewers do anything?
She has seen what the WRONG ADVICE - SA & Ruk glorification - overwhelming sick negativity - has done to JA. If she can't see that the TRPs they are still getting are ONLY due to RTPS - then there is nothing anybody can do.


I still stand FIRMLY by what I wrote. RT PS are magic, they made JA work and viewers still love them. I still love them as Akdha.

Unfortunately - viewers who love them also - had to stop watching because they could not handle the negativity & Ruk glorification.

If you have read the replies here - replies on Radhika's thread about Ruk punishment - it is about 50-50 - there are those who left in disgust at Ruk (like me) and now do not trust the CVs. There are those viewers who are eager for this track to work and hope JA can still go back to previous glory.

I read Donjas post here, on another thread also. He is right - if CVs were really serious about reviving JA - why did they not show Ruk punished? This would have convinced viewers that they really want to revive JA.

This is an excerpt from Nabiii's post - which is bang on what I also feel

Now point is why should a viewer wl have to watch JA just b/c rajat n paridhi r doing great acting! There is nothing to show sympathy on them n their job. If PH says them to work only giving entertainment to viewers without salary wl they ever accept this proposal.similarly viewers watch serial to get entertainment now if the main storyline not to get that across to viewers,why wl viewers watch it only for the sake of rt n ps! Emotion sai hamaisha kaam nahi chaltai, practical vi hona parta hai.
Lastly, my best wish to rt n ps that was/is/wl remain for them.


I agree totally - she is right - the payment we get for watching is entertainment. Why should we watch for free?!!!


Lastly it still boggles my mind that fans have to make threads and write things like "we will put pressure on CVs and try to make them punish Ruk" - it greatly disturbs me that a vamp is shown drugging AN INNOCENT YOUNG CHILD - NOT JUST ONCE BUT REPEATEDLY - she is shown murdering a witness to her crime - AND VIEWERS HAVE TO BRING PRESSURE for CVs to punish her????????????????????? 😡😡🤢

Even in kalyug - we all are brought to believe that good wins over evil, that decency, loyalty, truthfulness, respect, standing for truth are good virtues to have!

I am to trust the CVs who make a complete mockery of this? Who have to be PRESSURED to punish a character - which in current times will be hanged to death for her crimes. What is the message these CVs are conveying?

I am just done with the negativity & sick horrible tracks revolving around Ruk.
I still love JJ - Akdha - RTPS but for watching them I will not watch the CVs who are not ready to punish Ruk.
As someone made a thread - Ruk is back! 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢


RTPS have proved themselves in JA - acting, star power, chemistry, TRPs, getting viwers addicted - EVERYTHING. Fabulous actors in their mid 20s - made to to enact characters double their age - cos BT CVs have run out of ideas!

Wish RT PS glorious successful fabulous careers. ⭐️⭐️⭐️

More than RTPS - I wish JA is revived brought back to its full glory for the loyal wonderful loving fans. JA fans are so special they stood by Akdha thru thick and thins (LOTS of thins!) and I understand how eager the fans are for this track to work - for JA & Akdha brought back to previous glory. ONLY for these fans sake I sincerely wish that this track works.
If not anybody else the fans totally deserve it. 👏👏👏👏👏


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO

Wish a lazy happy Sunday everybody. 😃

Thanks for so many wonderful replies.
I have left watching JA but I am still here on JA forum cos of the so many wonderful friends here. They enriched my JA experience, I read so many wonderful thinkers writers here.

Susan & Abhay, sometimes Bhavana's threads have been my link to JA. Thanks Susan for your wonderful threads - I really love them cos they remind me of the good times of JA - when I also loved them like crazy.
I would rather keep those in mind - not the later part!

Thanks for posting your wonderful candid views to

Anael - exactly - at this stage viewers will be doing the favor not vice versa! - glad you are watching for yourself, hope you enjoy 😆

Sabdabhala - I agree with you totally. 👍🏼 I am also not willing to watch any crap just to get to watch Akdha!

Cleo - I am SO DONE with the negativity that was JA. Agree totally I would rather watch something that is entertaining not something that makes me feel sick!

Prav2 - Priya 😃🤗 so great to meet you after ages. Thanks & wish a wonderful happy healthy successful year to you.
It seems we each had our "had enough of this" point when we could no longer bear to watch. I agree - hope those who are watching get to enjoy.

Susan 😃 - YOU are still my link to JA. Your threads are the best cos you remind viewers of how much magic JJ brought. I don't trust these CVs.

Preet - 😃
🤗 love you too. Waiting! 😆

Diksha -
😃 - I don't trust these CVs at all. If they really wanted a turnaround they would have given viewers what they wanted - Ruk punished & sidelined. There are some who can still watch JA for RTPS and Akdha - I hope for your sake you enjoy watching.

Donjas - very interesting post. Frankly I would not spare a second's thought to what the actor & writer (I consider him C grade!) think. I have learnt on JA forum no matter how many proofs are given there are those who will still try to negate every proof. To each their own!

I will be hugely glad for RTPS's sake if they can revive JA. However, I still stand by what I wrote - I firmly believe they have nothing to prove. It is rather a test of CVs - they are the ones who turned loyal viewers away by their sick horribly negative tracks.

If you read the replies on this thread, or Radhika's thread (about Ruk punishment) you will see there is NOT A SINGLE PERSON who stopped watching cos of Akdha or RTPS. Rather they kept watching even when they were clearly hating JA ONLY cos of their love for Akdha.

So it is CVs test not RTPS. It comes down to if viewers are willing to trust the CVs again?

Let some narrow minded people think what they like - anybody who denies the huge success & magic of JA was due in large part to RTPS - are head buried in the sand, refusing the see the reality kind! I won't waste my time worrying what these people believe! I am sure PHs don't go by what some C grade writer or small time actor thinks! They would KNOW the power & magic of RTPS and their star power.


Neesha 😃🤗 so glad to read your post.
What about RTPS and their hard work? This is exactly the reason CVs were arrogant enough and dared to shove horribly sick negative tracks on viewers - cos no matter what crap they showed viewers watched for RTPS. You said will watch only till Ruks is back - I read thread here that Ruk is back! 😆

Hi Suganya 😃🤗 - meeting you also after ages. 😆 Wonderful post. I agree with you that concerned viewers who loved JA like crazy kept giving feedback - calls to zee, on facebook, twitter, here - anyway they can against the leaps, that they were hating the negativity - how JJ were made to look like fools - CVs just totally ignored, with brazen disregard for falling TRPs also. It is only when Ekta got involved that they are making a pretense of trying!

Why would they need for Ekta to tell them? Couldn't they SEE what they were doing to JA? Historical? Have they left a single character with dignity?

I hope for your sake you enjoy JA again.

Sweet - thanks so much. 😃

Nabiii - 😃 I agree 100% totally with your post. Bang on 👏👏👏
Can CVs give a satisfactory reply to your questions? Every point you raised is valid and needed.


Giannita 😃 I agree with you totally. Viewers will be doing a huge favor not vice versa! As for the writer - NO comments! 🤢

This was said to be Ekta's dream project! I also find it unbelievable that she did not know what was happening! If she really did not - then she chose wrong person/s to manage JA - who totally ruined it.

Why did it take so long for her to get involved? At this stage when viewers have left in disgust? Why couldn't she hire better writers for her dream project? Why leave it in the hands of her sbs stable who totally destroyed it?

Radhika - I firmly believe RT PS have nothing to left to prove - in regards to JA. They are the ones why TRPs are still what they are! Cos addicted viewers still watch cos they cannot stop - for love of Akdha!

It is not in your or my control what Cvs tell Ekta or what she will believe!
For whatever reason or whoever told her & she believed that SA will work and her writers seem to have convinced her that they had no story to tell! It boggles my mind that 42 years of event filled magnificent lives and her writers could not write tracks on them! They took what 22-25? years leaps!

Shows are running for 5+ years on some channels. JA had the potential to run for more. To think that when I started watching JA I felt this is one serial I can watch for years! What material they had, if only they did not choose sbs writers for JA. CVs are totally responsible for what JA is currently.

IF anybody will tell her that RTPS do not bring TRPs now or historical tracks do not work and she believes them - can viewers do anything?
She has seen what the WRONG ADVICE - SA & Ruk glorification - overwhelming sick negativity - has done to JA. If she can't see that the TRPs they are still getting are ONLY due to RTPS - then there is nothing anybody can do.


I still stand FIRMLY by what I wrote. RT PS are magic, they made JA work and viewers still love them. I still love them as Akdha.

Unfortunately - viewers who love them also - had to stop watching because they could not handle the negativity & Ruk glorification.

If you have read the replies here - replies on Radhika's thread about Ruk punishment - it is about 50-50 - there are those who left in disgust at Ruk (like me) and now do not trust the CVs. There are those viewers who are eager for this track to work and hope JA can still go back to previous glory.

I read Donjas post here, on another thread also. He is right - if CVs were really serious about reviving JA - why did they not show Ruk punished? This would have convinced viewers that they really want to revive JA.

This is an excerpt from Nabiii's post - which is bang on what I also feel

Now point is why should a viewer wl have to watch JA just b/c rajat n paridhi r doing great acting! There is nothing to show sympathy on them n their job. If PH says them to work only giving entertainment to viewers without salary wl they ever accept this proposal.similarly viewers watch serial to get entertainment now if the main storyline not to get that across to viewers,why wl viewers watch it only for the sake of rt n ps! Emotion sai hamaisha kaam nahi chaltai, practical vi hona parta hai.
Lastly, my best wish to rt n ps that was/is/wl remain for them.


I agree totally - she is right - the payment we get for watching is entertainment. Why should we watch for free?!!!


Lastly it still boggles my mind that fans have to make threads and write things like "we will put pressure on CVs and try to make them punish Ruk" - it greatly disturbs me that a vamp is shown drugging AN INNOCENT YOUNG CHILD - NOT JUST ONCE BUT REPEATEDLY - she is shown murdering a witness to her crime - AND VIEWERS HAVE TO BRING PRESSURE for CVs to punish her????????????????????? 🤢

Even in kalyug - we all are brought to believe that good wins over evil, that decency, loyalty, truthfulness, respect, standing for truth are good virtues to have!

I am to trust the CVs who make a complete mockery of this? Who have to be PRESSURED to punish a character - which in current times will be hanged to death for her crimes. What is the message these CVs are conveying?

I am just done with the negativity & sick horrible tracks revolving around Ruk.
I still love JJ - Akdha - RTPS but for watching them I will not watch the CVs who are not ready to punish Ruk.
As someone made a thread - Ruk is back! 🤢


RTPS have proved themselves in JA - acting, star power, chemistry, TRPs, getting viwers addicted - EVERYTHING. Fabulous actors in their mid 20s - made to to enact characters double their age - cos BT CVs have run out of ideas!

Wish RT PS glorious successful fabulous careers. ⭐️⭐️⭐️

More than RTPS - I wish JA is revived brought back to its full glory for the loyal wonderful loving fans. JA fans are so special they stood by Akdha thru thick and thins (LOTS of thins!) and I understand how eager the fans are for this track to work - for JA & Akdha brought back to previous glory. ONLY for these fans sake I sincerely wish that this track works.
If not anybody else the fans totally deserve it. 👏



If Ruks is back Maddy, JA cannot be revived it can only sink further in its own grave .And if Ruks is back I am off JA agin bcoz my hatred for Ruks is now more than my love for JA. Your post is bang on .. very true... You know Maddy...the reason I like you most is bcoz you are so firm and clear on your views and stand by what you say..I adore this quality about you..Maddy..but plz keep coming to forum occassionally at least...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: neeshaa16


If Ruks is back Maddy, JA cannot be revived it can only sink further in its own grave .And if Ruks is back I am off JA agin bcoz my hatred for Ruks is now more than my love for JA. Your post is bang on .. very true... You know Maddy...the reason I like you most is bcoz you are so firm and clear on your views and stand by what you say..I adore this quality about you..Maddy..but plz keep coming to forum occassionally at least...




Neesha thanks for the wonderful words. 😳😊 Do you remember how many times our thoughts and posts used to be similar on Mansi's threads? It was like we thought alike! 😆

I just write what I feel. Really it was not easy to let go of JA addiction. It was not like any of us who used to love JA like crazy left bored one random day. It became unbearable to watch due to excessive negativity.

I remember Mansi had told me once - after SR episodes sbs CVs don't know what to do with the story! I had thought surely this won't be the case with JA - it is on the lives of Akbar & MUZ! Look what happened!!! Since the next morning Ruk landed 🤢 it has been all about Ruk 😡🤢 and her evil crime free ways.

Our beloved Akdha got lost somewhere, CVs forgot we wanted to watch their life story! To think the idea of leap was so horrifying that all of us protested vehemently against it. We could not even bear to think of losing out even 1 year one event of JJ's lives. How did things come to such a stage that viewers could not bear to watch, left in disgust??? It was just extreme sick negativity, Ruk centric tracks and for that turning Jodha Jalal into fools. 😡

I sincerely wish JA gets revived back to its glory. However for that CVs have to punish Ruk harshly and publicly and sideline her. What does it say about JA that most viewers have left due to Ruk but CVs continue to cling to her even at the cost of JA? 🤢

JA still remains in our hearts but the old one not after HH. How I used to wish they just forget all the nonsense they shoved on viewers after HH tracks and go back to that episode & Jalal rages at Ruk and shuts her up and punishes her harshly! Never happened!!!

I wish JA is able to get back TRPs with the current track. I would never tell or even hint to anybody to not watch. I just made this thread cos I feel RTPS have proved themselves, this is CVs test. As you immediately said if Ruk is back I can't watch. Exactly! Viewers don't want to "not watch" they simply CAN'T bear watching Ruk. 🤢🤢🤢 Punishing Ruk harshly publicly & sidelining her totally is the last chance for JA. Seems CVs are not ready to do that!

Neesha will send you PM, thanks again. 😃

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hi Maddy
Your thread is rocking as always and your posts are awesome - straight from the heart without mincing words or beating round the bush. 👏

What saddens me is that JA fans have always been split into camps - Jalal vs Jodha fans, RT vs PS fans, JA vs SA fans and what have you. Now there's a split among those viewers who want to watch JA despite Ruq and those who cannot bear to watch JA because of Ruq. The fault for this lies with the CVs who are unable to get over their Ruq fixation even though they have lost many viewers.

I respect the sentiments of those who cannot watch Ruq given her long list of inhuman deeds. I had been among the minority who believed that Ruq would never be punished publicly because of her position, in the days when everyone was clamoring for her to be punished in every new track. I stopped watching the show when I couldn't take her anymore.

Yet today I am watching this track because I want it to work and prove to be a stepping stone to JA's revival.

I don't mind people telling me to watch or not watch this show because ALL these people are my friends. Why should I take out my displeasure with the show / the CVs on them? I would support anyone who posts asking old-timers to return to the show because they are doing it for the sake of a show which we all loved once. I DO NOT believe that they are doing this for the CVs or even RTPS but ONLY for themselves and all of us because they want this show back in all its glory - the way we all loved it once.

I have seen many friends fighting the CVs on FB and Twitter and forcing them to change many NR depictions and ultimately to abandon SA and return to JA.

The very fact that the CVs have now reverted to a track on JA is not just because of Ekta but because of the pressure brought on them by legions of fans. And these are fans of not just RTPS but of the real AkDha - those who love the real story of Akbar and HK and want it to reach as many people as possible.

I don't care if the CVs and Ekta are doing this for TRPs. It is important that they are doing it - showcasing important events from real history.

I would support any move to bring pressure on CVs to punish Ruq. Why should we do that , isn't it the CVs job, you ask.

We have to do it because if the CVs are not doing their job, then they have to be made to do their job. TV is an influential medium. Young people learn a lot from watching it.

We may decide we don't want negativity and stop watching the show or be mature enough to watch but ignore what we see. But there are any number of young people out there who watch and learn from what is shown on screen. I do not want them to be wrongly influenced by a Ruq going scot free.

I still don't believe she will be publicly punished. But I want her to be exposed and sidelined so that people know that one cannot lead a life of sin forever. I want her mistakes to be rectified and Salim reunited with his parents.

I had not thought it possible but am now convinced that fan power works and it is a powerful tool to set things right.

At the end of the day, this show is much more than RTPS. They are great actors who brought the magic alive on screen but this story is way beyond them and the CVs and the PH and its profit line and TRPs. This is a real story about 2 historical legends that has to be told to the next gen. On Abhay's blog, people write in from far away places - from Belgrade to Bali - because they are fascinated by the real story of Akbar and HK and for them, RTPS are just a medium to discover the real history.

RTPS may have proved themselves, the CVs may be lazy, the PH may have made its profits. But who are the losers - we and the real AkDha. I will stand by the real couple and give another chance for them to tell their story even if it means putting up with the negativity-filled CVs.

This is purely my personal stand and I do not wish anyone to adhere to it just because I said so. Every individual has the right to make a choice. This is my choice. 😊

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Hi Maddy

Your thread is rocking as always and your posts are awesome - straight from the heart without mincing words or beating round the bush. 👏

What saddens me is that JA fans have always been split into camps - Jalal vs Jodha fans, RT vs PS fans, JA vs SA fans and what have you. Now there's a split among those viewers who want to watch JA despite Ruq and those who cannot bear to watch JA because of Ruq. The fault for this lies with the CVs who are unable to get over their Ruq fixation even though they have lost many viewers.

I respect the sentiments of those who cannot watch Ruq given her long list of inhuman deeds. I had been among the minority who believed that Ruq would never be punished publicly because of her position, in the days when everyone was clamoring for her to be punished in every new track. I stopped watching the show when I couldn't take her anymore.

Yet today I am watching this track because I want it to work and prove to be a stepping stone to JA's revival.

I don't mind people telling me to watch or not watch this show because ALL these people are my friends. Why should I take out my displeasure with the show / the CVs on them? I would support anyone who posts asking old-timers to return to the show because they are doing it for the sake of a show which we all loved once. I DO NOT believe that they are doing this for the CVs or even RTPS but ONLY for themselves and all of us because they want this show back in all its glory - the way we all loved it once.

I have seen many friends fighting the CVs on FB and Twitter and forcing them to change many NR depictions and ultimately to abandon SA and return to JA.

The very fact that the CVs have now reverted to a track on JA is not just because of Ekta but because of the pressure brought on them by legions of fans. And these are fans of not just RTPS but of the real AkDha - those who love the real story of Akbar and HK and want it to reach as many people as possible.

I don't care if the CVs and Ekta are doing this for TRPs. It is important that they are doing it - showcasing important events from real history.

I would support any move to bring pressure on CVs to punish Ruq. Why should we do that , isn't it the CVs job, you ask.

We have to do it because if the CVs are not doing their job, then they have to be made to do their job. TV is an influential medium. Young people learn a lot from watching it.

We may decide we don't want negativity and stop watching the show or be mature enough to watch but ignore what we see. But there are any number of young people out there who watch and learn from what is shown on screen. I do not want them to be wrongly influenced by a Ruq going scot free.

I still don't believe she will be publicly punished. But I want her to be exposed and sidelined so that people know that one cannot lead a life of sin forever. I want her mistakes to be rectified and Salim reunited with his parents.

I had not thought it possible but am now convinced that fan power works and it is a powerful tool to set things right.

At the end of the day, this show is much more than RTPS. They are great actors who brought the magic alive on screen but this story is way beyond them and the CVs and the PH and its profit line and TRPs. This is a real story about 2 historical legends that has to be told to the next gen. On Abhay's blog, people write in from far away places - from Belgrade to Bali - because they are fascinated by the real story of Akbar and HK and for them, RTPS are just a medium to discover the real history.

RTPS may have proved themselves, the CVs may be lazy, the PH may have made its profits. But who are the losers - we and the real AkDha. I will stand by the real couple and give another chance for them to tell their story even if it means putting up with the negativity-filled CVs.

This is purely my personal stand and I do not wish anyone to adhere to it just because I said so. Every individual has the right to make a choice. This is my choice. 😊




Radhika fabulous post. You certainly made me think. 👏👏👏

I did not mean that WHY fans have to put pressure on CVs to punish Ruk - I meant WHY WE EVEN NEED TO DO THIS?? 🤢 Isn't it atrocious?

It is very disturbing to me personally that CVs do not feel a shred of responsibility about the message they are conveying. Like you said young kids might be watching. Is it not CVs responsibility and duty to consider this?

The message they are sending out with Ruk punishment free evil crimes is a person in position can do anything and never has to pay!
This is not something I want to watch.

Frankly I don't care what position Ruk holds - DON'T AKBAR & JODHA hold higher positions? When have CVs ever accorded them their dignity?

I remember reading about a scene Akbar telling Ruk she is nek dil aziz dost after Ruk had come fresh from drugging Salim 🤢🤢🤢 What this scene does is makes Akbar look like a fool!

Frankly at this point the ONLY persons CVs should be bothered about are Jodha and Akbar and their story.

Viewers did not ask CVs to turn Ruk charcoal black, when CVs have done this it is their duty and responsibility to show her punished PUBLICLY & HARSHLY. If they don't do this or do it any other way like a pathetic scene in her hojara where Jalal tells her off in few lines is JUST NOT ACCEPTABLE for the crimes she has committed.

In any era drugging a child repeatedly & murder were CRIMES. Ruk has to be punished publicly harshly & her position should not be hindrance to CVs. If Jodha & Akbar's position did not stop them from showing any atrocities - remember mirchi war & Khyber & Atifa & Ben?

Why this special respect for Ruk's position but not for Akbar & Jodha? 🤢

Even after considering all your arguments and agreeing - I simply cannot watch Ruk face. I did not stop watching JA out of boredom or losing interest - I stopped watching it cos of overwhelming negativity that made me cringe, watching Ruk face gave me headaches and nausea.

I will not watch something that glorifies a drug peddler - what Ruk did to Salim amounts to child abuse & murder - if CVs are not ready to punish her publicly then they should have thought of this before they wrote tracks showing Ruk doing this.

Frankly even the reminder of Ruk's fake pregnancy track, her MANY evil acts, making Jalal and Jodha into fools & serve her - that I watched all that makes me want to puke. So for me it will be either JA WITHOUT RUK or no JA. Sorry but my repulsion for Ruk is so much I cannot bear to watch her face.

CVs should make a choice now & someone should remind them - like you said THIS IS A STORY OF AKBAR & MUZ and viewers want to watch that.

NOT Ruk's evil ways her insecurity her jealousy her punishment free crimes her gloating her smirks her hukka her rampwalk 🤢

So it is upto CVs if they want to show viewers JodhaAkbar or cling to their Ruk obsession.

We will know soon enough.

I am glad after stopping to watch cos you also were not able to cos of Ruk - today you are watching. I can only wish you enjoyment & success for JA.

Like Cleo said, we only live once, after a busy day I want to enjoy what I watch - not something that makes me feel depressed or get a headache!

Edited by MaddyO - 10 years ago
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Maddy happy seeing your post after a long time.. Me not watching the show, but still around the forum reading the updates..I have watched some JJ scenes, but frankly couldn't able to enjoy JA like before, so not watching the show.

The way CVS including ZEE TV destroyed JA neglecting the viewers wish and demand .. I truely wished JA out of TOP 10 with the LEAP, Ruku Glorifying & drugging still JJ are fools not able to realize her also new LOVE STORY which is irritating..

But still wish & hope that this track will give TRPS, even though they can't bring back the lost glory of JA, but CVS can get the message it's PARIJAT are life of JA & fans still love and watching only for them..

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Originally posted by: abhi786

Maddy happy seeing your post after a long time.. Me not watching the show, but still around the forum reading the updates..I have watched some JJ scenes, but frankly couldn't able to enjoy JA like before, so not watching the show.

The way CVS including ZEE TV destroyed JA neglecting the viewers wish and demand .. I truely wished JA out of TOP 10 with the LEAP, Ruku Glorifying & drugging still JJ are fools not able to realize her also new LOVE STORY which is irritating..

But still wish & hope that this track will give TRPS, even though they can't bring back the lost glory of JA, but CVS can get the message it's PARIJAT are life of JA & fans still love and watching only for them..



Hi Abhi 😃 Thanks. Happy to meet you after ages. I am also not watching.

Your middle para is the crux of why JA nosedived in TRPs. Fan could see it, try to avert it with requests to Zee but they could not care less.

I also hope JA current track revives it - WISH CVs have got the message that viewers watch for Parijat and Akdha NOT to watch Ruk glorification & hogging screen space - not to forget her punishment free ever increasing crimes! 🤢

I wish JA gets back to its former glory - for the sake of fans who still love JA like crazy.

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Hi, Maddi.

i read, Maximums post. Thread is rocking.

Busy so not commenting.

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