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Posted: 10 years ago
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I am sorry if I offend any fans here. I am only stating my opinion, so don't bash me.

Being the mother, I do think Ragini probably had a tougher time bringing her kids up. What with supporting a family of mother, two kids and nani. She has obviously worked and toiled hard to give her kids the life they have today. She has obviously turned pragmatic and cold over the years, because it's not easy for a woman to be divorced, raise two kids on her own, go out and work and earn money, and have two other people banking on her for support, one of whom has a debilitating disease like Alzheimer's. It definitely takes a toll on a person physically and mentally. It doesn't seem like she had any other close family or friend helping her out, except for Dr. Aman. Even though Ragini is so egoistic and almost annoying in her interactions with most people, I kind of sympathize with her. So, in a way, I feel she has gone way out of line to give her kids a good upbringing, without compromising on their needs. I don't think she is emotionally very attuned to them, but she has definitely done enough to guarantee their education and future prospects.

COmpared to her upbringing, the kids are really bratty, if I may say so. She has definitely been a more involved parent than Nachiket, and yet her kids treat her so shabbily. They are ungrateful, immature and dissatisfied little brats. Usually, in a single home family, especially with single moms, the children are very very protective of their mother, and are very emotionally attached to her. They grow up seeing their mom's struggles, and her daily efforts to give them a good life, by compromising on her own needs and desires. The kids revere their moms in such a case and are very anti-father, if the dad has not been around at all to help or keep in touch. But Ragini's kids are very pro-Nachiket ( even though he has done zilch for them till now) and they are always so unhappy and dissatisfied with whatever Ragini does for them. I wish sometimes she would put them in their place, instead of getting so emotionally broken at their crappy and insulting behavior. If I were here, Nishi and Aarav both have recieved a bunch of slaps till now.

Compare that to Nachiket's side of kids. He has technically been shown to be an absent father. Pam has literally brought them up. For Nachiket's benefit, he has had support in Pam, who has taken over a mother's role for his children, unlike Ragini, who has brought them up on her own, without anyone taking the father's role for them. He has been shown to ignore his kids in the earlier episode due to his busy lifestyle and his own emotional issues. But, yes, he has given them an upbringing that has all materialistic comforts, even though they majorly lack emotional attachment with their father. Yet, his kids, do not seem to complain much about his behavior, and are always looking to please him and get him to acknowledge them, especially Suhani. They don't humiliate him, or insult him or create a ruckus if things don't go their way. They are much better behaved and more mature, especially Suhani and Agam.

I wonder if money makes kids more satisfied in life, or is an emotional relationship with their mother/father. I would think in reality, Ragini;s kids would have been mature, understanding and attached to their mom, while Neil's should have been bratty, dissatisfied and arrogant little punks. This show has it so opposite.

Hated Nishi today again. She should be married off and let go so that poor Ragini has one less idiot to worry about. And Aarav should have been sent to America so that he can get all his money oriented desires, and then wait for Nachiket to shower some attention and love on him that Ragini definitely did. Then he would realize. As for Ragini, she should just loosen up, and live her life, rather than getting insulted all the time from her ungrateful family. Even Sunny tai sunaoes her for no reason. Ugh.

Love Agam and Suhani! They are total sweethearts.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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All kids should have been shown as nice kids who are craving to be with both parents. They should have bonded together by now (it's been so long they have been in the same city) and started planning how to bring their parents together.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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beautifully written...
agam-suhani are sweethearts...when those two insolent brats insults ragini...i always wished agam-suhani were there to wipe their mother's tears...cheers her up..and showers the love she always yearns for...

nishi-aarav are ungrateful brats...if in future...i have such kids...and they talk to me in such a tone...i would have slap them...nishi will definitely pay a price after marriage...and nishi's jiggy boy...he is spineless...she definitely going to go through hardship...and thats when i hope ragini reminds her how adamant she was for this marriage...now she can do nothing to help her...she can't interfere in her married life

I have only hope of agam-suhani to reunite Neira...the other 3 are hopeless
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: pp29

I am sorry if I offend any fans here. I am only stating my opinion, so don't bash me.

Being the mother, I do think Ragini probably had a tougher time bringing her kids up. What with supporting a family of mother, two kids and nani. She has obviously worked and toiled hard to give her kids the life they have today. She has obviously turned pragmatic and cold over the years, because it's not easy for a woman to be divorced, raise two kids on her own, go out and work and earn money, and have two other people banking on her for support, one of whom has a debilitating disease like Alzheimer's. It definitely takes a toll on a person physically and mentally. It doesn't seem like she had any other close family or friend helping her out, except for Dr. Aman. Even though Ragini is so egoistic and almost annoying in her interactions with most people, I kind of sympathize with her. So, in a way, I feel she has gone way out of line to give her kids a good upbringing, without compromising on their needs. I don't think she is emotionally very attuned to them, but she has definitely done enough to guarantee their education and future prospects.

COmpared to her upbringing, the kids are really bratty, if I may say so. She has definitely been a more involved parent than Nachiket, and yet her kids treat her so shabbily. They are ungrateful, immature and dissatisfied little brats. Usually, in a single home family, especially with single moms, the children are very very protective of their mother, and are very emotionally attached to her. They grow up seeing their mom's struggles, and her daily efforts to give them a good life, by compromising on her own needs and desires. The kids revere their moms in such a case and are very anti-father, if the dad has not been around at all to help or keep in touch. But Ragini's kids are very pro-Nachiket ( even though he has done zilch for them till now) and they are always so unhappy and dissatisfied with whatever Ragini does for them. I wish sometimes she would put them in their place, instead of getting so emotionally broken at their crappy and insulting behavior. If I were here, Nishi and Aarav both have recieved a bunch of slaps till now.

Compare that to Nachiket's side of kids. He has technically been shown to be an absent father. Pam has literally brought them up. For Nachiket's benefit, he has had support in Pam, who has taken over a mother's role for his children, unlike Ragini, who has brought them up on her own, without anyone taking the father's role for them. He has been shown to ignore his kids in the earlier episode due to his busy lifestyle and his own emotional issues. But, yes, he has given them an upbringing that has all materialistic comforts, even though they majorly lack emotional attachment with their father. Yet, his kids, do not seem to complain much about his behavior, and are always looking to please him and get him to acknowledge them, especially Suhani. They don't humiliate him, or insult him or create a ruckus if things don't go their way. They are much better behaved and more mature, especially Suhani and Agam.

I wonder if money makes kids more satisfied in life, or is an emotional relationship with their mother/father. I would think in reality, Ragini;s kids would have been mature, understanding and attached to their mom, while Neil's should have been bratty, dissatisfied and arrogant little punks. This show has it so opposite.


Hated Nishi today again. She should be married off and let go so that poor Ragini has one less idiot to worry about. And Aarav should have been sent to America so that he can get all his money oriented desires, and then wait for Nachiket to shower some attention and love on him that Ragini definitely did. Then he would realize. As for Ragini, she should just loosen up, and live her life, rather than getting insulted all the time from her ungrateful family. Even Sunny tai sunaoes her for no reason. Ugh.

Love Agam and Suhani! They are total sweethearts.


Excellent points here. I think the show does it have opposite. Realistically Ragini kids should be more like Agham and Suhani. Neil kids would all be more like Ranbir. Infact when the show started I expected all of Neil children to have major emotional problems and will the villains of the show and it will be Ragini kids who are angels. The team has not done proper research on single mother families, you are right children who are brought up by their mother only are very protective of their mother and are usually anti father and anti men especially if their mother was cheated by their father.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Well written. Nishi and arav, they behave so bad with their mother. They don't care how their mother would feel. In today's episode, Nishi crossed all limits. I thought girls are vere sensible and understanding and Nishi proved it wrong.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Very well written. You have brought out all valid & realistic emotions & reasons.
If I was Ragini even I would have given few tight slaps to Nishi & Aarav. They have no respect for their mother.
However, I feel the creatives are confused regarding Nishi's character. No matter how spoilt a daughter is, she does feel her mother's pain & is moved by her tears. I feel Ragini should ask Nishi to do court marriage & get out of her home & life!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Excellent post. Nishi was awful today, would give her some leeway though because she is a teen in love and has just lost her spineless fiance. She has been rather insolent throughout, hope she realizes her mother's pain and turns into a sympathetic and supporting daughter soon.

As for Aarav, he seems to see-saw, he did apologize to his mom for wanting to leave her for worldly possessions that his dad can provide. Seeing his sibling enjoying what could be his as well at that age might cause a kid to sway momentarily in loyalty.

But for the most part, raised by a single mother and having witnessed her struggles, one would expect to see both kids more attuned to her emotions and thinking. Obviously, the split happened because Ragini believes Neil cheated on her, if so, the kids should rightfully hate their dad. Unless Ragini has kept that a secret.

Ranbir seemed to have had an epiphany when Agam kept praising their mom and citing her as the reason Ranbir is free. Hope the glimpse of arrested shock/understanding on Ranbir's face lasts and that Pam and Nivedita do not feed him more poison to believe his mother had an ulterior notice in making sure he was set free.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Oh and Ragini supports Sunny Tai as well. How ironical !
I agree that Nishi should be advised to go in for court marriage and then get out of Ragini 's house. What was she saying that just because Ragini could not settle down, she doesn't want others to be happy either. Or to settle down. What rubbish !
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I have not seen today's episode but to be honest I don't find the kids to be behaving very unusually. I will not blame them at all. They are all suffering because of a broken relationship for which their parents are to be blamed, not them.
Of course Nishi and Aarav love their mom. It was shown several times. When Nishi had called Nachiket in US, she was hurt to hear Suhani calling 'mom'. She thought her dad got married and was mad at him. Aarav also came back to Ragini and begged for her forgiveness. So they are not bad kids. They are just the victims of the situation. Being 17 and 19 they are vulnerable to emotional strains. In their case they were happy with their life before Nachiket arrived. When their dad came, they saw him, found out that he is a reputed surgeon, saw how successful he was in life, it is natural that they will feel 'left out'. 'Left out' of their dad's love, their siblings' love, their siblings' lifestyle. And kids always show their hurt to their moms first; they open up to their moms more easily than dads because they are closer to their moms. I am surprised why TM thinks that kids are insensitive? In which family 17 and 19 year olds don't rebel? That must be a perfect family but I have not seen or heard of any such family. Usually kids take out their anger on moms, because moms are the softer targets; mostly kids are afraid of their dads. it is quite common in both eastern and western society as well.

Now Agam and Suhani - i will just say that Nachiket lucked out that they turned out to be so well. But i don't see Nachiket as a very bad parent either as some members do. He may be aloof and workoholic, but he is not mean, unfair or an autocratic dad. He is busy with his work and he has trusted his sister with his kids. Lot of families do that. If pam was not there, he would have played mom and dad's roles I am sure. The fact that he did not marry shows that he is committed towards raising his children. i don't agree with some members' reasoning that his kids should be bad. He has tried his best to provide for them and if he cannot trust his own sister, then who can he trust? If you think of it, Pam did not marry. She has given her life and time towards raising the kids. Yes, she may have brainwashed Ranbir more because he was the eldest and at an age to understand things a lttle better thatn the other two. The younger ones were not brain washed as much i should say.

Coming to Ranbir - he needs counseling and a whole lot of love, attention, and understanding from his parents. He seems to have hardened up from some deep scar that needs a lot of tender love. But his behavior is not unnatural. I can believe a child growing up without mom's love and being brainwashed against his mom, can go in the wrong direction.

Also who says kids of single parents tend to be understanding always? We cannot generalize it. Lot of them have grievances. Just like kids from wealthy families turning out to be spoilt, a lot of kids who turn into bad company or go into the wrong side come from broken families. Similarly a lot of kids from rich families are generous and charitable with big hearts. So there cannot be generalizations like that.

Except Ranbir, all the four kids are ok. We need to look at their emotional side too, just not Ragini's pain alone. Ragini has her mom, Sunny Tai, Aman, Devika, Shilpa and her mom - lot of wellwishers and support. The entire society people like her, otherwise she would not be nominated for Secy's post. On the contrary it is harder to raise kids in US because there is no support over there and if Neil did not work hard, kids would not have a good life. Cost of living is very high there, even with both parents working, people find it hard to maintain the lifestyle in US. In America people work extremely hard and that's what Neil did. he worked hard, earned reputation for himself and gave his children a comfortable life. Why should I call him a bad parent?Men are always judged harshly sometimes I feel.

I am pretty sure NeiRa kids will change thier thinking and join hands to bring their parents together but Ranbir needs special attention right away before things get worse with him. Kids are kids and they should not be always judged with rationality.


Edited by JuhiRockz - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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This is why I stopped watching the show. The cvs have been a big let down in character sketch. They are just interested in making the story spicy and have not delved deep into the psych of a person/ character. There is no realism or anything relatable to the characters.
This story is being treated very poorly.

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