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Posted: 10 years ago
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Now I would like to clarify that I am not condoning what Sahir is doing, especially the threat of setting the outhouse on fire ... though I feel the family is not in the outhouse and it is an empty threat... but either which way it is too much... very OTT and really pushes the envelope too far as far as Sahir's character goes. This threat really is scraping the bottom of the barrel and hopefully the CVs don't make him do anything worse.

But despite all this ... I understand the character. Maybe the writer has fleshed it out better than Arzoo n Zaki's or maybe HC is bringing his own talent and interpretation to the table... but I understand Sahir's motives. He is dark... he has in the last 7 years got used to having his way... he has suppressed his gentler self for so long that it is almost easy for him to out-think and manipulate the situation and people.

[Or maybe it is me... I have always liked the darker, twisted characters more... in fiction of course. And that is the point of fiction in my humble opinion. To be able to enjoy reading, watching and even enacting characters who we would never be or never want to be like in real life.]

Anyways, the point is that while I would normally feel bad for someone in Zaki's position, (and please I am only talking about characters here and not the actors... so none of this is personal) in this case I don't! I felt a twinge of sadness when I saw him sitting all alone and drinking after the SaaZ nikaah. But that was it! Why? Cause there is something amiss. That is the feeling I get. His rush to woo and propose and get married to Arzoo smacks of something underhand.

Is he really Sam's baby's father? I don't know. Doubt if the CVs know either. Is Sam really preggers? Again I don't know. But the way the character is being played out I feel the CVs are setting Zaki up to have quite a few hidden layers too and we will see over the coming episodes that he is not as open and honest as he is portraying himself to be.

Sahir on the other has never ever claimed to be an open book. So for me not only does he become the more interesting character but also the hero [But note to CVs - don't make him do anymore psychobaaz stuff please... much as I love Sahir, I can't justify the fire threat kind of stuff even to my dark-lord-loving-self].

Hopefully now that the nikaah is done, the CVs will not make him a tame, beeghi billi. I hope he continues to be the Sahir we all have got to know but without the psycho behaviour. I hope he continues to be clever and astute and capable of reading the situation and people. I hope he continues to have attitude. But yes, I also hope he learns to trust and express his love for Arzoo and re-learns to be happy.

Arzoo as a character is disappointing because she is not being explored properly by the writers and they are so inconsistent with her that you could make a fishing net with the loopholes available in her characterization. She is supposed to be self-respecting, but all her actions scream otherwise. She doesn't believe money is everything, but she is happily embracing Sahir's value point regarding love and money... for what?... to prove Sahir wrong!? How? By becoming like him! So how are you any different from him then... why judge him at all.

One can say that she is currently thinking in a cold manner, and due to her hatred she is only thinking from one point of view. Unfortunately her character has only been thinking from her POV from the beginning. Like I said no empathy! Cause if Sahir made Arzoo this... what made Sahir like this. I realise this is not a question Arzoo can ask off herself right now in her extremely distressed state, but it is the question she set out to find the answer to all those days ago when she moved in to NH. Arzoo has always been quick to judge and jump to conclusions. Black and white are her colours. No grey. And Sahir is all grey.

It doesn't make Arzoo wrong. Almost all girls in her position may run scared of the Sahir in their lives... but most girls hopefully will quit on understanding a guy after they have made decent effort at understanding him. Arzoo never made the effort except for asking once and then getting back on her high horse when he rebuffed her. She is also as egoistic as he is. But while we get to see him grappling with his own faults, we never see any self doubts or questioning in her.

So I find it difficult to empathize with her. I understand some of her decisions, while the rest (to stay on in NH, to agree to marry Zaki and then to marry Sahir) are all going over my head. But while I may understand her, I feel she is also responsible for her current situation. She doesn't practice what she preaches.

I am not saying the above flaws in Arzoo and Zaki, justifies Sahir manipulating the situation to marry Arzoo; cause who is he to decide whether Zaki's love is real or just a monumental infatuation or whether Arzoo will be happy or not with Zaki.

But, that is Sahir's character. Arzoo is his and he is not the sacrificing kind... THANK YOU GOD! I hate these Nirupa Roy type martyrs who are always bloody sacrificing and causing more confusion. Sahir is willing to do all that is required to hang on to his lady love. And he feels he is justified cause he knows that she loves him... no matter how mad she is at him right now... he is confident that he will be able to eventually get through to her. And that confidence is also a hallmark of Sahir.

His chink in the armour till date has been his waada. But now slowly, I see Arzoo becoming his weakness. And I think they will truly become Humsafars when they become each other's strengths.

PS1: This thought struck me the other day - Will the CD about the factory fire end up in Zaki's hand and will he use it against Sahir?

PS2: Nausheen should get the worst mother award. Alvira, Zara and Myra all resembled ostriches yesterday... but Nausheen was in a league of her own. She is like a horse with blinkers on!

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Excellent excellent excellent post Junoonion!!! You don't know how happy you have made me to have read your pragmatic post. I shall definitely respond to you in detail later but had to quickly say I agree with all your points...arzoo's narration since Friday has been irritating me so so much, but have been ignoring it as she is in a distressed state...doesn't she question anything??? Maybe that's the flaw they are trying to show...if Sahir can be so layered, maybe they want Arzoo to be as well...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Jun and ur back with a bang 🤗
Word jun ..wht a fantastic post ..as much as I try to feel ARZOO n zaki 'a pain I fail miserably cos the characterization is pathetic n even Nausheen to an extent doesn't get my sympathy but she gets on my nerves infact 😆

Sahir has come alive cos of HC ..kudos to him for tht n I for one will stick by the fact ...tht come wht may sahir is the JUST one n deserves ARZOO more than zaki

Btw u felt a twinge of sadness for zaki, I didn't even feel tht 😉

ARZOO needs ro grow uo ASAP
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: VD927

Excellent excellent excellent post Junoonion!!! You don't know how happy you have made me to have read your pragmatic post. I shall definitely respond to you in detail later but had to quickly say I agree with all your points...arzoo's narration since Friday has been irritating me so so much, but have been ignoring it as she is in a distressed state...doesn't she question anything??? Maybe that's the flaw they are trying to show...if Sahir can be so layered, maybe they want Arzoo to be as well...


Thanks VD😊. And I loved it that you found the post pragmatic... cause none of these characters are clearly right or wrong. All are equally right and wrong. And I swear, Arzoo's character needs to be worked on. I started watching HS cause of the way she was portrayed in the promos and this is such a far cry. She is such a confused and confusing soul!!😕. Yeah now that the plot is on slightly safer grounds, post-nikaah, maybe they will focus on the characters instead of trying to rush from one disaster to another.
Funny how these characters are taking over our lives 😆
And I look forward to your detailed reply. 😊

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ecrivain

Jun and ur back with a bang 🤗

Word jun ..wht a fantastic post ..as much as I try to feel ARZOO n zaki 'a pain I fail miserably cos the characterization is pathetic n even Nausheen to an extent doesn't get my sympathy but she gets on my nerves infact 😆

Sahir has come alive cos of HC ..kudos to him for tht n I for one will stick by the fact ...tht come wht may sahir is the JUST one n deserves ARZOO more than zaki

Btw u felt a twinge of sadness for zaki, I didn't even feel tht 😉

ARZOO needs ro grow uo ASAP

Ecri🤗
How are you doing?
thanks for your sweet words. I keep telling myself I will not let these characters get to me. But fat chance... no matter how blah the epi is, I get all wound up wanting to analyze n read and share on the forum. Only consolation is that mere jaise aur bhi pagal hai. 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hi Junoonian...after HS ..now I am a fan of your writing! kya superb post hai...loved it.

I love that Sahir is all grey. It's tough to find a character who doesn't live in a utopian world. What a change he is from the stereotype MLs that are there...I think it's one of the best central characters etched for a TV soap till date...and HC is a real stud! He brings so much more to the screen than just his dashing looks!

But I agree, the CVs have been pushing the envelope too much here and playing with fire here. Hope they don't push Sahir's character into the abyss of villaindom!

Waiting eagerly now for SaAz Mr. Husband and Mrs. Wife wali nok jhok now.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Very nice post and bang on 😊
I have a tip for you about Nausheen. Use the mute button, she gets on my nerves too 😉

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Fabulous Post Jun 😊 Woman you write so beautifully !! Haven't I said that before ? Hmm 😊 Chameleon and now the grey shark ? Girl do you work for the animal planet ? 😆 JK of course.
You have written everything that I feel myself so will not add much here.

Yeah I am a bit upset with the treatment of the lead characters, Sahir,from being grey has been turned into a black character and its a bit off putting. I love Sahir as a character who can think, manipulate and beat people at their own game but I hate to see him turn into an obsessed psycho lover who can go to any extent to get the girl.

I know he cannot wait for her to change her mind because Zaki will get to her eventually so he uses every form of manipulation to get her to say yes to him. But threatening to burn her family down indicates a mental disorder, seriously 🤢 N the spoilers say that due to jealousy, he will probably see Zaki and her together, he will burn down his room as well ! Dunno whats wrong with the CVs ! ? We are not saying we want to interfere with the creative vision but there has to be a plausible reason for everything na? Its high time they started showing Sahir's past, for us to understand him better. I think burning down anything is maniacal and he needs his head examined for that.

As for Arzoo, she has been the most disappointing character for me so far, She started out spunky, in love with life, with an unfazed attitude and look where she is now? Oscillating between two brothers, having a very myopic vision and though I hate to say it, looks like a gold digger as she has married Sahir for money so that her family lacks for nothing. She was willing to get into a loveless marriage to make her friend happy ? Really? Didn't that thought hit her after he helped her pay half the money she owned her good for nothing father ?

She could have left or simply stayed stubborn on her resolve not to marry either of the two brothers, she could have asked for time, instead of rushing straight into a marriage of convenience. For some reason I have not been able to connect with Arzoo's character and as time passes, I am getting more and more irritated with her.

Anyhow enough of my rant, look at me, I said I will write a few lines and have ended up with a novelette of sorts 😕 Lets just hope that Cvs give us few romantic episodes in the days to come, a reception wala close dance maybe ?



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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Spunkyrutz


Hi Junoonian...after HS ..now I am a fan of your writing! kya superb post hai...loved it.

I love that Sahir is all grey. It's tough to find a character who doesn't live in a utopian world. What a change he is from the stereotype MLs that are there...I think it's one of the best central characters etched for a TV soap till date...and HC is a real stud! He brings so much more to the screen than just his dashing looks!

But I agree, the CVs have been pushing the envelope too much here and playing with fire here. Hope they don't push Sahir's character into the abyss of villaindom!

Waiting eagerly now for SaAz Mr. Husband and Mrs. Wife wali nok jhok now.

Hi Spunky (hope you are ok with this name :))
You are making me go all awww and issshhh 😃 But thank you so very much☺️
And yes Sahir is one hell of a character and Harshad one hell of an actor. And it doesn't hurt in the least bit that he looks so dishy😆. I do feel sorry for his co-stars (esp. male co-stars) cause they are all starting out at a disadvantage. This guy owns the screen.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: pearly14

Very nice post and bang on 😊

I have a tip for you about Nausheen. Use the mute button, she gets on my nerves too 😉

Thanks Pearly 😊
Regarding mute button... it is my form of self flagellation and punishment - I sit through even Nausheen's nonsense.😆. No muting or fast forwarding for me.😆

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