The Grey Shark - Page 2

Originally posted by: true2heart

Fabulous Post Jun 😊

Thank you Madhu 😊

Woman you write so beautifully !! Haven't I said that before ? Hmm 😊 Chameleon and now the grey shark ? Girl do you work for the animal planet ? 😆 JK of course.

Thanks again. But seriously this forum does make one up their game cause there are many really good writers here, yourself included... who express succinctly and clearly.

And yeah I did not notice... chameleon and shark... hmmm... I am going to try and tie in a tiger into my next post😆 and you know who the tiger will be, right?😉

You have written everything that I feel myself so will not add much here.

Yeah I am a bit upset with the treatment of the lead characters, Sahir,from being grey has been turned into a black character and its a bit off putting. I love Sahir as a character who can think, manipulate and beat people at their own game but I hate to see him turn into an obsessed psycho lover who can go to any extent to get the girl.

I know he cannot wait for her to change her mind because Zaki will get to her eventually so he uses every form of manipulation to get her to say yes to him. But threatening to burn her family down indicates a mental disorder, seriously 🤢 N the spoilers say that due to jealousy, he will probably see Zaki and her together, he will burn down his room as well ! Dunno whats wrong with the CVs ! ? We are not saying we want to interfere with the creative vision but there has to be a plausible reason for everything na? Its high time they started showing Sahir's past, for us to understand him better. I think burning down anything is maniacal and he needs his head examined for that.

Tell me about it! I am guessing they don't get time to step back and observe their own creations cause of their crazy deadlines so end up writing crap at times. Or they are self-medicating.😡 Or they are a talent-less bunch... but this I find hard to believe cause they did after all come up with the initial concept and created the character of Sahir and Arzoo and the Zaki of old.

As for Arzoo, she has been the most disappointing character for me so far, She started out spunky, in love with life, with an unfazed attitude and look where she is now? Oscillating between two brothers, having a very myopic vision and though I hate to say it, looks like a gold digger as she has married Sahir for money so that her family lacks for nothing. She was willing to get into a loveless marriage to make her friend happy ? Really? Didn't that thought hit her after he helped her pay half the money she owned her good for nothing father ?

She could have left or simply stayed stubborn on her resolve not to marry either of the two brothers, she could have asked for time, instead of rushing straight into a marriage of convenience. For some reason I have not been able to connect with Arzoo's character and as time passes, I am getting more and more irritated with her.

The bold bit above... so true. I want to shake her. She doesn't have to forgive Sahir easily. Make him suffer a bit if you want. But puhhhlleeease use your brain cells before making decisions and talking.

Anyhow enough of my rant, look at me, I said I will write a few lines and have ended up with a novelette of sorts 😕 Lets just hope that Cvs give us few romantic episodes in the days to come, a reception wala close dance maybe ?

If SaaZ are going to pretend to be happily married for the outside world then the reception dance (after her feet heal magically in two epis of course - after all we are in the world of Indian TV serials 😆) seems quite possible. You think we should make song suggestions to the PH?

Anything for some sweet SaaZ moments.

Originally posted by: Junoonian

Ecri🤗

How are you doing?

thanks for your sweet words. I keep telling myself I will not let these characters get to me. But fat chance... no matter how blah the epi is, I get all wound up wanting to analyze n read and share on the forum. Only consolation is that mere jaise aur bhi pagal hai. 😆

Originally posted by: Junoonian

TOTALLY Loved your post 👏

But despite all this ... I understand the character. Maybe the writer has fleshed it out better than Arzoo n Zaki's or maybe HC is bringing his own talent and interpretation to the table... but I understand Sahir's motives. He is dark... he has in the last 7 years got used to having his way... he has suppressed his gentler self for so long that it is almost easy for him to out-think and manipulate the situation and people.

Word Junoonian Sahir's Character is fleshed out better than the rest the gold star bonus is HC

I mean the guy can totally tell you every thing with just his walk up no dials needed he can express even nothingness

plus Sahir as a character is far more deep than other chars. there's always more to him than meets the eyes

[Or maybe it is me... I have always liked the darker, twisted characters more... in fiction of course. And that is the point of fiction in my humble opinion. To be able to enjoy reading, watching and even enacting characters who we would never be or never want to be like in real life.]

@Bold It is actually the beauty of fiction 😳

Anyways, the point is that while I would normally feel bad for someone in Zaki's position, (and please I am only talking about characters here and not the actors... so none of this is personal) in this case I don't! I felt a twinge of sadness when I saw him sitting all alone and drinking after the SaaZ nikaah. But that was it! Why? Cause there is something amiss. That is the feeling I get. His rush to woo and propose and get married to Arzoo smacks of something underhand.

I never felt bad for Zaki & I won't ever and am proud of it 😆 'something amiss' is enough for me 😉

Is he really Sam's baby's father? I don't know. Doubt if the CVs know either. Is Sam really preggers? Again I don't know. But the way the character is being played out I feel the CVs are setting Zaki up to have quite a few hidden layers too and we will see over the coming episodes that he is not as open and honest as he is portraying himself to be.

@bold that's a million dollar Q 😉

Sahir on the other has never ever claimed to be an open book. So for me not only does he become the more interesting character but also the hero [But note to CVs - don't make him do anymore psychobaaz stuff please... much as I love Sahir, I can't justify the fire threat kind of stuff even to my dark-lord-loving-self].

There ain't no justification for that I wish they'd stop atleast now to push him to all limits enough now

Hopefully now that the nikaah is done, the CVs will not make him a tame, beeghi billi. I hope he continues to be the Sahir we all have got to know but without the psycho behaviour. I hope he continues to be clever and astute and capable of reading the situation and people. I hope he continues to have attitude. But yes, I also hope he learns to trust and express his love for Arzoo and re-learns to be happy.

He has one leash less around his neck one less thing to worry about now and he is now in a better position to take the desicions which he'd not have taken with arzoo to worry about

his other sides need to come forth they need to unravel other sides to him asap

Arzoo as a character is disappointing because she is not being explored properly by the writers and they are so inconsistent with her that you could make a fishing net with the loopholes available in her characterization. She is supposed to be self-respecting, but all her actions scream otherwise. She doesn't believe money is everything, but she is happily embracing Sahir's value point regarding love and money... for what?... to prove Sahir wrong!? How? By becoming like him! So how are you any different from him then... why judge him at all.

She is no different and she has proved that more than once & I don't get her attitude when he's meeting his end of the deal then what's the need of her attitude 🥱

One can say that she is currently thinking in a cold manner, and due to her hatred she is only thinking from one point of view. Unfortunately her character has only been thinking from her POV from the beginning. Like I said no empathy! Cause if Sahir made Arzoo this... what made Sahir like this. I realise this is not a question Arzoo can ask off herself right now in her extremely distressed state, but it is the question she set out to find the answer to all those days ago when she moved in to NH. Arzoo has always been quick to judge and jump to conclusions. Black and white are her colours. No grey. And Sahir is all grey.

It doesn't make Arzoo wrong. Almost all girls in her position may run scared of the Sahir in their lives... but most girls hopefully will quit on understanding a guy after they have made decent effort at understanding him. Arzoo never made the effort except for asking once and then getting back on her high horse when he rebuffed her. She is also as egoistic as he is. But while we get to see him grappling with his own faults, we never see any self doubts or questioning in her.

I've always felt that she want to be treated as spl. He has been lenient more than she can count

She behaved post betrayal that She is the boss of him more than once 😕

as egoistic ? I think more egoistic than He is though she matches up the level

they behave as kids that if you did this to me I'll also do the same oh SaAz 😆 so waiting for their nok-jhoks 😉

So I find it difficult to empathize with her. I understand some of her decisions, while the rest (to stay on in NH, to agree to marry Zaki and then to marry Sahir) are all going over my head. But while I may understand her, I feel she is also responsible for her current situation. She doesn't practice what she preaches.

@bold that pretty much sums up everything about her

I am not saying the above flaws in Arzoo and Zaki, justifies Sahir manipulating the situation to marry Arzoo; cause who is he to decide whether Zaki's love is real or just a monumental infatuation or whether Arzoo will be happy or not with Zaki.

But, that is Sahir's character. Arzoo is his and he is not the sacrificing kind... THANK YOU GOD! I hate these Nirupa Roy type martyrs who are always bloody sacrificing and causing more confusion. Sahir is willing to do all that is required to hang on to his lady love. And he feels he is justified cause he knows that she loves him... no matter how mad she is at him right now... he is confident that he will be able to eventually get through to her. And that confidence is also a hallmark of Sahir.

I don't need to add anymore again something rare that we've seen till date on TV

His chink in the armour till date has been his waada. But now slowly, I see Arzoo becoming his weakness. And I think they will truly become Humsafars when they become each other's strengths.

PS1: This thought struck me the other day - Will the CD about the factory fire end up in Zaki's hand and will he use it against Sahir?

That's a brutal thought

PS2: Nausheen should get the worst mother award. Alvira, Zara and Myra all resembled ostriches yesterday... but Nausheen was in a league of her own. She is like a horse with blinkers on!

Given the past few days the only family member Arzoo had was paak daman 😆

plus her original family was all okay with the groom changing in consecutive days 😲

Originally posted by: ecrivain

Jun I am right here n doing fine...par aap to Hanaon Dekha andekha kar dete hain 😉

Nahiii... Allah knows Ecri... aisi gustakhi humse ho gayi toh humme muaf kar do... pleej.😉

Lol don't worry Gul n her shows have mad cap fans n ur not alone ..this forum is yet to catch up in earlier show's we used to clock several IF pages per day ...pagalon KI kami nahi ..so enjoy as much as u can

Good to know Ecri though I am not sure if I am so much a fan of the show any longer or if I am watching for HC's histrionics... like the lead man it is all grey in my head too LOL

Originally posted by: true2heart

Thats a great idea Jun, lets think of some really romantic Salsa beats wala song for them or a really slow no.

Let me start with Tum hi ho

Hum tere bin ab reh nahi sakte
Tere bina kya wajood mera
Tujhse juda gar ho jaayenge
Toh khud se hi ho jaayenge judaa
Kyunki tum hi ho
Ab tum hi ho
Zindagi ab tum hi ho
Chain bhi, mera dard bhi
Meri aashiqui ab tum hi ho

Sahir in a black suit. with a red tie and Arzoo in a stunning black off shoulder sequinned gown pirouetting to it ?