Alvira knows sahir just too well..

Sahir had a meltdown and Alvira didn't give him a hug/ a pat on shoulders .. Not even " seer per haath.

"Please writers let Aarzoo move out of niyamat house, be independent.. Have a personality change ( like you know workaholic, serious types) probably a makeover too( tied hair and more mature look) and then she meets Sahir all the times at different places/ niyamat house and (pretends)gives a s#%* about him. ( though she's broken inside). And the usual "always in control" Sahir cannot resist her anymore and admits his love"

I like this idea...i hope cvs show us this type of track!

Dont know what the writer has in mind :(

But imagine scenes like SAC looking at Aarzoo talking to zakki and the background song is -- " tumko dekha toh yeh khayal aayaa, zindagi dhoop tum ghana saya.

Or scene .. Helpless Sac with whom Aarzoo just wont talk .. And the background song . " main taino samjhawa ki, nahi tere bina lagda dil.

I just hope the dialogue writer use more of urdu , its such a beautiful language , perfect in muslim backdrop.

Alvira for me is a master manipulator and not a good mother at all ... period!!! Its' to obvious to call her a good mother ever! In fact I would be surprised if it turned out she is his real mother because the relationship between them has never had warmth ... it has always been a strained one ... more of respect than love a mother son would hold If Alvira was good mother Sahir won't be in this state ... this state is more because of loneliness that came after Zeenat cheating and no one there to share it with ... Alvira does not even seem to know he hits himself ... or the misery he is living with! And She has only resulted in causing him more pain ... before arzoo was pushed into his life ... he had only one pian to live with now a lot more is piled up ... So yes may be Alvira knew all this will happen, she does know him but she does not care about him or his pain, if she did she won't send Joe away and push arzoo like this to cause more and more pain ... she for sure has a motive of her own!

Originally posted by: itsmeshingi

Sahir had a meltdown and Alvira didn't give him a hug/ a pat on shoulders .. Not even " seer per haath.

But she did go ahead, spoke to Aarzoo and tried to stop her. Why??

I think Alvira gets it--- Sahir likes/ loves Aarzoo, but he has his own demons/ ego , which is preventing him from admitting his feelings. Imagine ifAlvira gave him a a hug that day.. How would Sahir have reacted?? he would probably be embarrassed the very next minute for his actions .. Because that would have made him realized that he's weak. ...That's he's making his ammi I aware of his feelings.he would have gone back to his mujhe koi farak nahi padta attitude( sooner than usual)

Sahir is a tough nut, he needs to be pushed to the hilt to admit, he loves Aarzoo. I guess Aarzoo's indifference / Alvira non reaction to his tears would infuriate him to the limit that he would vent it all out.

For now I think he would keep a shart with Zaki, he marry Samaira toh I'll marry Aarzoo.

Zaki would agree coz he wants JAhaa Aara to be happy ( true love types) and he's knows Aarzoo loves Sahir and pyar toh Anzad karat hai ( remember😊)

Aarzoo, I wish is unaware of love this and doesn't marry Saahir.please please she has been betrayed so badly, please don't show her a chirpy bubbly girl next day.. Hopping around in niyamat house.

Please writers let Aarzoo move out of niyamat house, be independent.. Have a personality change ( like you know workaholic, serious types) probably a makeover too( tied hair and more mature look) and then she meets Sahir all the times at different places/ niyamat house and (pretends)gives a s#%* about him. ( though she's broken inside). And the usual "always in control" Sahir cannot resist her anymore and admits his love

bold agree completely!!!!

This might be a love story and Saahir might have protected her honor (least he could do after risking her life). But we dont want to send the message to young girls that its okay to sell self-respect for love. That its okay for someone to play with your emotions and risk your life due to love it should be all fine. Abusive relationships would be justified as risking of life happens in those too. Not to mention we dont want to sell the idea to young minds that its okay to being a hypocrite. To loathe your own wife for playing with your emotions and unfairly get away with it for doing it to someone else. Further more Saahir himself has rejected her love to her face by setting her free from the relationship and betraying her so badly. Healing should happen from both sides and at this point Arzoo needs it too and since Saahir is the cause of most of her pain it should start from his end not hers. Further more healing is only a responsiblity if two people are in a healthy relationship first. Saahir is a married man and they still have shown how they are going to justify Saaz relationship after that. So right now Arzoo has no responsibility of healing Saahir. Your right she should move out Niyamath house immediately.

No one is asking arzoo to sell her self respect (which i dont know was where when her entire family moved into the house of a long lost friend or when she declared she is pregnant to help a 4 day old friend or when she became Joe and driver) and if you are referring to "risking her life" viz a viz cab driver then I am sorry but he didn't risk it ... he told her he wants her out of his life ... he didn't imagine that something like this could happen nor he imagined she would leave in the middle of the night ... if something bad has to happen it happens ... Sahir is responsible for breaking her heart and that is that! And why he did it is clear too ... he is helpless ... helpless because of his pain ... helpless because he didn't want her life's darkness to over shadow her life ... yes he did start it as a game but only because zaki declaring she loves him confused him ... his past dhoka over shadowed his present event ... if zaki hadn't said she loved him without even confirming none of this would have happened ... And no one said Sahir was right in playing with her emotions ... and no one is saying she should get up and be normal with him the next day compromising her "self respect" all I am saying is events have to happen that lead her to think beyond the obvious ... that shake her and make her realize there is more to what meets the eye! And that is when she has to start the healing ... no one is saying she should start it the next day or next moment ... but for this to be a love story this has to happen!

Originally posted by: Soaps1

No one is asking arzoo to sell her self respect (which i dont know was where when her entire family moved into the house of a long lost friend or when she declared she is pregnant to help a 4 day old friend) and if you are referring to "risking her life" viz a viz cab driver then I am sorry but he didn't risk it ... he told her he wants her out of his life ... he didn't imagine that something like this could happen nor he imagined she would leave in the middle of the night ... if something bad has to happen it happens ... Sahir is responsible for breaking her heart and that is that! And why he did it is clear too ... he is helpless ... helpless because of his pain ... helpless because he didn't want her life's darkness to over shadow her life ... yes he did start it as a game but only because zaki declaring she loves him confused him ... his past dhoka over shadowed his present event ... if zaki hadn't said she loved him without even confirming none of this would have happened ... And no one said Sahir was right in playing with her emotions ... and no one is saying she should get up and be normal with him the next day compromising her "self respect" all I am saying is events have to happen that lead her to think beyond the obvious ... that shake her and make her realize there is more to what meets the eye! And that is when she has to start the healing ... no one is saying she should start it the next day or next moment ... but for this to be a love story this has to happen!

And to say cause of pain is from Sahir's side I am sorry but even that is mutual .. .Sahir did his best to tell her to stay away ... to push her away ... but she was pulled towards him more and more by her love for him ... he saw love in her eyes and that is why when Zaki said she loves me ... he was shattered ... his past came back to haunt him ... but soon enough during the challenge he realized he was right ... she does love only him ... and that is when guilt set in ... and it was his guilt that led him to tell her the truth before Zaki could ... he wanted to be the one to say it ... though it will break her heart but he knew that is the right thing to do ... he also knew she won't move on in life till he makes sure she hates him ... so he did it in such a way that she hates him ... everything he told her was deliberate to make her hate him not because he believed any of that! He is too well aware of his past ... hence he said on friday "i can neither let u go (because he loves her) nor i can have you (because of his past)" When he is guilty himself and in so much pain I don't know where self respect is compromised in all of this!

First of all he is not feeling guilty at all. He is shown to be getting obsessive and possessive. Its all about him still and his pain. He went into his room and said life through him in this position it didnt. No I am not referring to the cab incident. I am referring to the egg allergy thing where you very well know he risked her life. He might claim nothing could have gone wrong but egg allergies and the human body is very undpredictable her life was at risk there no matter if he had the anti-allergy with him or not or whether or he callled the doctor on time. He apologized to her but that does nothing for her to heal mentally while she is sleeping it should be while she is awake. And he himself state HE CANT accept her with open arms so their can NEVER be a healthy relationship between them unless he does that. He is not even learning from his mistakes and letting go of the deal for her.


He did not break her heart because he was helpless. He broke her heart because his obsession with Zeenat and his obsession for money. Saiyara didnt need to be 1000 crore company within days. Saahir just wanted to make it that due to his ego. He was not helpless if Zaki stated he loved her there was nothing wrong with it. Although Arzoo tried to help him she never claimed to him that she was in love or commited to him before the game started. Even if he confused love in her eyes with something else it didnt mean he owned her or she was his girlfriend UNLESS SHE HAD SAID so verbally. This has always been Saahir's issue jumping to conclusion's too fast. Neither did he ask Zaki if Samaira was telling the truth nor did he bother asking Arzoo if she was in love with Zaki. Furthmore he even continued the game even after Zaki told him she loves you not me. What does that say? And he is still trying for the business deal for Rehman sir?

Saahir was depressed even before Arzoo started pushing her self close to him. He started hurting himself after the jungle trip? What had she done to pursue him than? Travel with him on a bussiness trip and get stuck inside an emergency. He always he eating burned toast and never happy. Nor did Arzoo say she was commited to him. He didnt have any right to label her as a gold digger or a betrayer until she was commited to him. His past coming back to haunt him? She was never his girlfriend wife or anything. Further more she had already began to distance himself way before the pregnancy and deal drama started. After his apology she clearly told him to stay away from her and she will stay away from him. No love or commitement there just an effort to stay away.
For a love story and healing it has to come from both ends. And Saahir has to prove himself worthy first. He has done nothing to even redeem himself. Not even apologize while she is awake. Infact he is going to emotionally blackmail her after all the trauma what a way to redeem yourself?

if you think he is not feeling guilty at all then you and I are watching two totally different shows and there is no point arguing 😊

One might not have to claim their in love in order for others to see it. But its still their choice if they want to be in a relationship or not. That where choice and freedom comes in. And NO its not just for women for e the same goes for men. You can fall in love with the wrong person too. So you might be in love and not want to be in a relationship. I have seen situations like that where people fall in love with the wrong people. After the apology scene Arzoo made it clear she did not want to be in relationship with him. End of story it does not matter what he might have seen in her eyes.

How exactly did she provoke hope? As you said she always had an attitude towards him? She provoked hope by becoming Joe? In that case you can say female servants can provoke romantic hope? Even before the game started the only thing that crossed the line of a romantic relationship between them was the back rubbing scene that it. While he might have been verbally warning her to stay away from him. His actions where more inviting and pulling than hers. His actions were contrary to his words. If he wanted her to stay away from him he shoudnt have promoted her within weeks time, or help her prove her innocence on numerous occasions or rescue her from Kurti Appa accusations. He is responsible for inviting her towards him just as much as she might have drawn. Further more all he had to say was I am a married man she would have stayed MILES away from him than.

No I dont see him as guilty. The only guilty sign he showed his apology but I need one from him while she is awake. Enough of the internal conflict for me is not excuse. Depressed people understand right from wrong and should be able to redeem themselves when required. Him removing Zaki's hand from hers? It might have been wrong for them to be on the same bed but what was Saahir indicating than? Him stopping her from moving out of his house? Still not admitting some of his mistakes to her like the burning of the factory? It most about him as he doesnt want to lose her but he cant accept her openly like he himself said. He can accept her he wont redeem himself with the type of betrayal Arzoo has faced Saahir needs to take some actions to redeem himself before she even considers healing him again. He also need to stop emotionally blackmailing her.

If your saying Saahir is incabable of redeeming himself and healing Arzoo from the pain he has given her than the same can be said for Arzoo. Research indicated scars that influence your upbringing hurt the most and now she is doubled scared due to Saahir. So she in no situation to help him either.