Alvira knows sahir just too well.. - Page 3

Originally posted by: prettypri

Ok so I understand that all characters are simply not being judged by tbe same standards here...so what's her point..

It's like...yes...Alvira was wrong there..so what..

Oh Zaki did a mistake...hmm..yeah...ok...let's move on!

But Sahir...he is the ultimate ...judge him and pronounce him tbe worst offender with no consideration for anything else!

And also every other characters so called good deeds for Arzoo are being highlighted and not their role in messing this thing up.

When this is the case obviously one who judges everyone by what is shown on screen and by the same standards should not argue further so I will gracefully bow out...I cannot condone one persons behaviour because they were good to the character I think of as the world best and condemn another's because I don't like the way they behaved with the character I like!

That's why Sahir is wrong when he does wrong and so are all the others for me...I don't guAge the action by who commited it! That's not the way I think it should be!

Originally posted by: prettypri

Who has done more for Arzoo is always debatable...and that's again based on whether you see all characters from the same standpoint or not..

And Alvira and Zaki telling Sahir what he did wrong...they totally sounded like they had no role to play in this mess...and Sahir doesn't know their role...Alviras he definitely doesn't and Zaki...what that self righteous suddenly moral guy spoke was not important as he doesn't have a leg to stand on...Sahir was definitely not in a position to listen to him then and his words were clearly wasted!

Sahir didn't need him to tell him he was wrong...he knew himself...!zaki couldn't even see that!

And when has Sahir pointed out mistakes of this so called family that that expectation would come here now? You have the right to correct someone when you have been there for them too...totally disregarding them and then morally lecturing them doesn't cut it...not at all!!

And Sahir s concern was for Arzoo after that incident not about pointing out mistakes of everyone else like Zaki !

Originally posted by: redviolet

Im saying who did more to heal Arzoo after her trauma. Saahir so far has done nothing. He will infact make it worse by emotionally blackmailing her. Maybe to you but I dont think they did. Alvira admitted to Arzoo that she kept a truth from her and that BOTH of her sons did her harm right when Saahir was standing behind her. So neither is he unaware nor are Zaki or Alvira hiding their mistakes from Saahir. I believe Zaki also told Arzoo that he tried to warn when Saahir was standing right behind him. When something bad happens to someone and you get angry you will prob yell at the person you think is responsible. I dont think Zaki is as responsible as Alvira or Saahir. Alvira prob didnt think Saahir was capable of playing with someone's emotions but she is still equally at fault for hiding the fact Saahir was a married man. I hope Nausheen also tells off Saahir as well

Originally posted by: prettypri

As you said let's not jump to conclusions...we have such differing opinions on what has already been aired...who knows what our opinions would be on what is yet to air,,,so let the future epis air..

Healing Arzoo after the trauma...when you have brought it up...Sahir was the one who saved her...he was the one she sent her location to even before the cab guy actually did anything...it wasn't even as an accidental gesture...why wasn't that sent to Alvira or Zaki since they are all good with her...

Saving her from an emergency is not healing. Yeah he made it there on time to ensure she was not harmed. But that does not HEAL her. Why she sent it to Saahir not Alvira or Zaki is irrelavant but that is def not healing.

And Alvira trying to play down her role by talking about it like it was some small thing she did for which she needs to apologise and Zaki also talking about his role in connection with Sahirs and not before..may seem like a lot to you..to me no!

Ok so we have different perspectives there. To me Alvira is able to admit her mistake and so is Zaki and neither are behaving as holier than though pretending they have not connection. But the fact remain Saahir is the most responsible and was the most rutheless as neither Zaki nor Alvira gamble with Arzoo's life like he did.

If you seriously think Sahir was listening to what Zaki and Alvira were saying at that time and catching their mistakes I don't know what to say,,.his only concern at that time was that Arzoo should not leave as she needs rest and she has no place to go...that's what he said..to Alvira...and neither Alvira nor Zaki were in fact able to stop Arzoo...inexplicable as it js it was Sahir who stopped yet...and that was the good he did...that she didn't walk out in that condition!

He might have told Alvira that was the reason. His real motive was to try to keep her under his eye and make sure Zaki was trying to stay way from her. His monologue to himself proved that later.

I didn't say Alvira or Zaki hid their role from Sahir at THAT time...how could he conclude Alvira had brought Arzoo purposely from Lucknow from what she said...and Zaki didn't say I knew he was playing with you Arzoo did he...he warned her AFTER the incident...and I think Arzoo was only bothered about why he hadn't told about Sahir being married at that time???which he hadn't!

Okay so he does not have to know. All I was trying to stay if HE were to know or were to find out later. I have no issues in him telling Alvira and Zaki they were wrong as they were wrong along with. Matter fact I would like it but its fair both ways. They can also tell him he was wrong and he can also do the same. I have no issues either way.

Your hope on Nausheen is commendable...a mother who smiled and said indulgently that her traumatised daughter had spent the night peacefully because of Zakis presence...without knowing the daughter had tried to shake off that very hand...without knowing she woke up screaming and remembering the terror...we weren't shown that Nausheen knows so she doesn't...can hardly be expected to react to anything!

If at all she does...she should tell off her friend Alvira who triggered this whole thing...first right of hearing Nausheen take a stand on something is definitely Alviras!

I beleive Saahir holds as much responsiblity as Alvira as Alvira didnt plan Arzoo's heart break that was Saahir. She did plan to make her the second women. My argument had nothing to do with Nausheen's character. I dont like he either. But her telling off Alvira or Saahir would be something I would still like to see her do.

Originally posted by: redviolet