Concerns regarding the Banner Contest

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Dear Members,

There seems to be a lot of concerns regarding the Banner Contest on the forum - specifically pertaining to the voting rounds.

Voting round 1 was conducted on the forum a couple of week ago. After careful consideration, it was concluded that foul play had occurred (i.e. cheating was done). Therefore to be fair to all participants, voting round 1 was re-done with the Development Team only. This is standard practice when cheating occurs in any forum banner contest.

From the 26 banners, only 7 went onto the voting round 2 (which is currently going on). After round 2, a third and final round will happen, after which the new banner will be chosen. In voting round 3, members will vote for 1 banner from 3 options (top 3 banners voted from round 2).

There seems to be issues with non-forum members voting. It's absurd to expect DT to analyze each and every member that voted - determine if they are a KTLK forum member and then, count their vote. This is a public forum and members are free to post where ever they wish too. It's the nature of such a medium and cannot be altered - it's an unreasonable expectation.

We acknowledge that every participant puts in hard work and we appreciate that. However, this is a contest after all. It's a democracy and there will be only one winner. That does not mean that the rest of you are less capable.

Members wanting to leave the forum because there banner did not make it to the next round -
It's a contest so I would only request that you treat it like such. Contests have been conducted on India-Forums like this from its inception. I understand your sentiments maybe hurt but as I mentioned above, there will be only one winner but that does not mean we don't appreciate your hard work. In fact each and everyone of you that participated should be proud - an archived forum received nearly 26 entries. Some on air forums do not even receive this many.

I hope that resolves all concerns. I sincerely apologize for any misunderstandings and inconvenience caused. I am leaving this topic open to address any banner contest related issues.

Happy Holidays!

Thank you,
IF Devt Team

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Veni-Vidi-Vici thumbnail
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thanks a lot for the detailed clarification gkji.😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thank you for this post and for this clarification Modji.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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GK, thanks for the clarification.

From my POV, the thing you should really do going forward is when the next voting round occurs - ie going from first voting round to 2nd voting round, is say upfront, thank you to all the participants from round one for their hard work and participation in the banner contest in the 2nd voting round post.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thanks for the clarification Mod ji 😃
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Though I don't know all the details but reading the comments on Alvida thread, summary of my understanding and concerns of the friends I lost due to this contest. I don't think they come here and voice them, so am trying my best to summarise them and need help here from remaining members.
    I don't know who has contributed to this contest but I think all entries of regular members removed here
    Only Mods are voting, most of the profiles are Mods, how come they never voted for story contest and only banner contest?
    If cheating is done now, same would have happened for story contest also but then none of the senior members cared for that
    How did you decide cheating happened? Some explination required
    If point one is true, entry from a non-KTLK member will be selected
    If at the end of the contest, the result is losing our friends, we do not want this contest please
    Please think why so many regular members think that there is cheating happened to them here
    We come here for our friends and not banner,

Is it worth selecing or changing the banner by killing so many regular members who has kept it alive for 2 year?

At the end, the Forum is in the control of Development Team and we can only raise concerns and please decide based on your rules and process.

Edited by Anjani9 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anjani9

Though I don't know all the details but reading the comments on Alvida thread, summary of my understanding and concerns of the friends I lost due to this contest. I don't think they come here and voice them, so am trying my best to summarise them and need help here from remaining members.

    I don't know who has contributed to this contest but I think all entries of regular members removed here
    Only Mods are voting, most of the profiles are Mods, how come they never voted for story contest and only banner contest?
    If cheating is done now, same would have happened for story contest also but then none of the senior members cared for that
    How did you decide cheating happened? Some explination required
    If point one is true, entry from a non-KTLK member will be selected
    If at the end of the contest, the result is losing our friends, we do not want this contest please
    Please think why so many regular members think that there is cheating happened to them here
    We come here for our friends and not banner,

Is it worth selecing or changing the banner by killing so many regular members who has kept it alive for 2 year?

At the end, the Forum is in the control of Development Team and we can only raise concerns and please decide based on your rules and process.

first of all a very big thank u "GK" replying to my PM and taking a correct action like this

i was connecting with my friends who had already leave this forum due to this banner contest as Anjani said they are the soul of our forum they help to keep this forum active till now

As u pointed Anjani we need correct reasons

  • How did you decide cheating happened? Some explination required
100% agree with u @Anjani - entry from a non-KTLK member will be selected
    If at the end of the contest, the result is losing our friends, we do not want this contest please
    Please think why so many regular members think that there is cheating happened to them here
    We come here for our friends and not banner,

Is it worth selecing or changing the banner by killing so many regular members who has kept it alive for 2 year?

In any contest which is happen in KTLK forum the priority should be given to the KTLK members please concern on this matter we have the right to talk like this as we the people who make this forum alive no body else

please please i need my friends back😭

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Posted: 10 years ago
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GK, Keeping other issues apart, really appreciate your effort in opening this thread...šŸ‘
Good initiative and we got a chance to voice our concerns...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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thanks for clearing our doubts mod ji
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anjani9

Though I don't know all the details but reading the comments on Alvida thread, summary of my understanding and concerns of the friends I lost due to this contest. I don't think they come here and voice them, so am trying my best to summarise them and need help here from remaining members.

    I don't know who has contributed to this contest but I think all entries of regular members removed her. How can you come to that conclusion if you don't know which banner belongs to whom? šŸ˜•
    Only Mods are voting, most of the profiles are Mods, how come they never voted for story contest and only banner contest? The DT is voting because they were requested to do so. Once again its a common practice to ask peers and fellow team members to vote for any given contest. Moreover, one does not have to be a part of the forum to vote. I have elaborated on this in the main post. I wasn't apart of the Story Contest organization committee. Therefore, I can't comment on what happened with the contest.
    If cheating is done now, same would have happened for story contest also but then none of the senior members cared for that Once again, I wasn't apart of the Story Contest organization committee so I can't comment on that.
    How did you decide cheating happened? Some explination required. Sure. Due to confidentiality of some of these issues I won't be able to explain in detail but will try my best. Firstly, MIDs were used in the voting process when it clearly states in the rules that no MIDs will be entertained. Secondly, analysis on the voting was performed (this is a standard procedure). Voting patterns suggested that foul play had occurred. A second and third opinion was taken on this - all with the same conclusion. Lastly, we had received a PM that told us banners were being advertised. Due to all these complications, the Global Mod team decided it was best to re-conduct the voting round 1 with the Development Team only to be fair to all parties. The banners in round 2 are the top 7 banners voted by the Development Team.
    If point one is true, entry from a non-KTLK member will be selected Could you please elaborate on this? I'm not sure what you mean.
    If at the end of the contest, the result is losing our friends, we do not want this contest please But what about everyone else who sent in their entries? What about their hard work? Your friends were not the only one who participated.
    Please think why so many regular members think that there is cheating happened to them here
    We come here for our friends and not banner,

Is it worth selecing or changing the banner by killing so many regular members who has kept it alive for 2 year? It was the members themselves who requested the banner contest. As I mentioned above, this is just a contest and that's how it should be treated. From my understanding, friends and relationships are much more valuable than some contest. However, each to it's own opinion. I'm not sure where the key issue lies. I've tried my best to clear everything from my end. The rest is up to you and your peers.

At the end, the Forum is in the control of Development Team and we can only raise concerns and please decide based on your rules and process.



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