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Posted: 11 years ago
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Well I think it has always been personal. The promos the first look the title all suggested the same. Nitya's life turned upside down n she lost everything within no time. Her sister was wronged n the damages were fatal. She decided to take revenge/ fight the mighty / bring the culprits down / get justice / give justice to payal or whatever u want to call it by personal choice n she maintained it. The people she wanted to keep away were kept away. The help she wanted to take was taken. The manipulation she wanted to do was done all by her own will. She wants the culprits to suffer the way she n her family suffered right? Well who can witness it? Only her! Barring one incident where payal was made to witness shaurya's screaming. I thought she paralysed shaurya to humiliate him n make him n his family suffer every minute. But looks like she paralysed him only to remain safe after marrying him. So it's personal. Coz she never ever humiliated him for being unable to continue his sadistic acts. Never was any hint given that his horrible sin has come back haunting. He got even more powerful. Well that's off the track. But she seems to take all personally as it is her personal fight driven by personal choice. She chooses her own ways to trouble the culprits. The ghost track. Mind games with sakshi n the eyelocks. The triumph in her eyes after each defeat of goenkas. It is personal!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@Pallavi that is the problem. Once it becomes personal it is not justice , it is revenge. You did this to me so I will do this to you. And Revenge you cannot protect your near and dear ones. Because " For every action there is equal and opposite reaction" so if you put someone down there, you will lose someone here also in the same manner.

Wheels of justice may be slow, but it does deliver. The way she is fighting the battle in the first place will not give Payal's lost honour which according to me is very very important.
It is not the war of Nithya lost her parents, her baba etc etc.. the most important thing is to bring in front of the world the fact that Payal was raped.
The veil has to lift from Sunshine and she has to burn bright in front of the world. Revenge according to me cannot give that which Durga is doing at present, only keeping the larger issue , only by working for justice, only by collaborating with like minded people who has been deprived by Goenka's the justice can be delivered.
And in that aspect I completely agree to Anu that taking the battle personal is Durga's biggest problem and weakness.


Well, I disagree. This is Durga/ Nitya's personal vendetta!
Payal is her sister so avenging her sister's agony is personal revenge.
Like the Hindi movies where hero avenges the death of his family or loved ones. We all sympathize with the hero, applaud him, root for him. Then why not for Durga?

Goenkas are crooked and have bought the system, Police, Court, doctors, lawyers, all are under their power. So how will Durga get justice legally?
To get justice for Payal, she would have to get evidence of the rape and witnesses.

Two yrs ago, Goenkas had threatened witnesses, made them vanish, they had bought the evidence MMS from Durga's own lawyer.
Now 2 yrs later, Durga had no evidence, no idea that the lawyer still had the MMS (Dev didnt tell her anything abt it yet). She had to start somewhere to avenge her family, so she started targeting the allies of Goenkas, to make them weaker. Which was actually good tactics, to make the enemy weaker, target their support system.

Two years later, she has the money and backing of Dayal and Dev, she can do a lot more than she could do 2 yrs ago as a simple driver's daughter. She has Akash to help her, who is another victim of Goenkas. So she did collaborate with like-minded people.

For the Goenkas also its personal, they are protecting their criminal son. They will go to any extent to save that scoundrel from punishment.
Sister and son are family, family is an extension of one's own self.
So for both Durga and Sakshi, the battle is intensely personal.
Durga is trying to avenge her sister, Sakshi is trying to protect her son.



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Posted: 11 years ago
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Pallavi
You do not need to list all that happened to Mitras.

I know that.

What I meant was that her saying they could go to any extent to harm her was wrong. They have not had an agenda to harm only her. They are doing this to save themselves. Also it is not only her who they are harming. They harmed her parents, Payal and others too. They have harmed even more people than just Mitras.

When she takes it personally she feels more hurt and guilty. If she thinks she is fighting for a higher cause as in generally fighting against injustice then her own emotional state would be more balanced.

Hero fights villains in films often for personal vendetta but he makes it greater cause. Tell me any film where villain's whole list of crimes wasn't explored!

Pandavas were fighting for dharma in MB or only fighting for their and Draupadi's insult, cheating in dice, and kingdoms?

In her main main, she loses focus, feels more targetted and guilty. Sorry but it was her main main due to which she did not anticipate attack on Payal and only kept thinking what could happen to herself.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: atominis

Pallavi

You do not need to list all that happened to Mitras.

I know that.

What I meant was that her saying they could go to any extent to harm her was wrong. They have not had an agenda to harm only her. They are doing this to save themselves. Also it is not only her who they are harming. They harmed her parents, Payal and others too. They have harmed even more people than just Mitras.

Parents and sisters are extensions of her own self, her ego, her existence. She lost her identity because of what Goenkas did. Why are her parents and sister supposed to be separate from her?😕 They are a part of who Nitya was, a part of what she lost. As for other people, why shd Durga care for others when she herself has suffered such huge tragedies and nobody helped her in court except for the Bagchis? Durga has saved the Bagchis, she has restored Bagchi Baba's vision using Shaurya's money, she has helped Akash and other victims of the Goenkas. But at the end of the day its her personal vendetta as her family and sister didnt get justice 2 yrs ago

When she takes it personally she feels more hurt and guilty. If she thinks she is fighting for a higher cause as in generally fighting against injustice then her own emotional state would be more balanced.

What higher cause? Ridding the society of evil scoundrels Goenkas? Why shd she bother abt a higher cause when her family has suffered more than anyone else? Shes human, she gets emotional abt her past, abt her family's tragedy, that is normal in these circumstances. She did try to kill the emotions inside her but its not that easy to forget ur family's demise

Hero fights villains in films often for personal vendetta but he makes it greater cause. Tell me any film where villain's whole list of crimes wasn't explored!

In most movies, hero fights to punish villain for killing either his family, or his wife or lover. In some cases, hero even works for villain until his own loved ones get attacked, then he turns against villain and fights. Human beings are selfish, most people dont bother abt injustice done to other people until it affects them personally. Why is Durga supposed to take up greater cause when her own loss is so terrible? Is she a crusader or a woman seeking revenge?

Pandavas were fighting for dharma in MB or only fighting for their and Draupadi's insult, cheating in dice, and kingdoms?

Pandavas went to war to get back their kingdom and avenge Draupadi's insult, it was Lord Krisha who explained to them that they have to fight for the greater good of human society and for welfare of future generation

In her main main, she loses focus, feels more targetted and guilty. Sorry but it was her main main due to which she did not anticipate attack on Payal and only kept thinking what could happen to herself.


I agree @bold... and I have repeatedly said before that Durga is very careless abt Payal's safety. First she took Dev to meet Payal, which resulted in Sakshi finding out and tormenting Payal, and recently she took Kangna to meet Payal too. Instead of keeping Payal at that open hospital where anyone can come and go, Durga shd immediately move her to a more secure location. Especially after Dayal's murder, she shd not take chances with payal's safety.
Sorry but when did Durga think of what could happen to herself? 😕 She has been going around Kolkata all alone sometimes even at night, to execute her plans or to stalk her enemies. If she cared abt her own safety why would she jeopardize her own life to seek revenge?
Shes afraid for Dev's life since dev has already been victim of a near fatal attack, thats why shes not telling Dev anything, she doesnt want him to probe Payal's case again and become a victim of Sakshi or Shaurya's attack.
Durga IS being targeted, by attacking Payal, Sakshi wanted to punish Durga. By sending Dev to jail, Sakshi wanted to divert Durga.

Edited by pallavi25 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Pallavi
I remember many movies where hero equally thought of all other bad things villain did. The motivation is of course personal tragedy but final impetus is the general wrong.

That helps one feel more strong and less guilty.

Your post has answer that the Lord explained to Pandavas on higher cause. Similarly Durga needs to focus on higher cause in some way to really stop feeling guilty and stop going wrong.

I am talking for her own good only.

It's because of misplaced guilt or thinking attack will only be on her, that she misses vital support and fails to take precautions.

She has right to feel angry at what happened to her. But for battles anger needs to be channelised towards cause.


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