Akash is back! :D - Page 4

Originally posted by: atominis

@Pallavi

Durga's plans are well thought out?😲

Durga's plans in the beginning were well planned and executed. Dont forget the cameras planted in Raima's house which collected proof of Rajnath's infidelity which shocked Sakshi out of her complacency and made her shoot Raima

Sorry! Nothing beats the idiocy of ghost drama!

Not even Bank Manager stuttering Buh buh Beautiful like a lovesick puppy and handing over Dayal's locker key to Sakshi? Or Shaurya falling down and getting cured of paralysis? Or Shaurya flying over Dayal's gate and killing him?😆

Not even the bank drama.

Ghost thing is the most stupid thing ever.

That is your opinion, mine can be different, I think ghost drama, bank kaand, flying wheelchair all fall in same category of stupidity

Then making Shaurya dumb and so obsessed that he followed Durga like a pup.

Durga controlled him by alternately playing hard to get and then giving him bhaav...kind of stringing him along, not surrendering, not rejecting...this ploy often works

Making Rajnath suddenly overlook Sakshi's warnings despite everytime taking advice from her.

Did Rajnath follow Sakshi's advice all his life? Where is the evidence for that?

Also, you talk of guards at Dayal's house. Where were guards and CCTV's at Mathur's house? Durga easily entered and placed pics? And left? And no one knew?

Dayal has a gated mansion/house, with a gatekeeper? Did Mathur have a gatekeeper?

Plus Goenkas readily believed this hokum without once having a talk with their right hand man? NONSENSE.

Goenkas are the types who would suspect their right hand man if enough evidence is given that hes hobnobbing with their rivals in business. Heck, the Goenkas dont even trust each other and lie to each other constantly. Liars usually dont believe others😆

How did she know Ganguly abused his wife also? How did she know of RajMa affair? The writers suddenly made her telepathic?

As far as I remember the spycams captured Ganguly abusing his wife. Durga had Raima followed after she suspected some hanky panky going on, she planted camera at Raima's house too, she didnt know abt Rajma affair, Dayal and Durga were shocked to see Raj with Raima

Akash was a mole and basically never did anything of use for Goenkas. He was not even at office and mostly busy chasing them on roads. Still Goenkas kept him employed for so long? FYI, given his behaviour and uselessness such tycoons never keep such dheela employees that too for such important posts.

Akash had done many "jobs" for Goenkas while he was working, Im sure watching those episodes again will refresh our memories. Goenkas were not operating a dharamshala

Goenkas leaving Akash and Mathur alive was a joke.

Sakshi sent goons to kill Akash as soon as she found out he was a traitor

Were there no guards outside Goenka farmhouse that Durga easily kept spying there and her car was also there when she wanted to expose RajMa red handed? No one saw her?

There was a guard there, remember? Durga managed to evade the guard and when caught she made some excuse, she was in disguise too

Just a small quarrel over commitment issues and Commissioner fell out with Goenkas? Sorry but it was all flimsy. No grounds at all.

It was a question of his daughter's honor and heartbreak

Shaurya suddenly stopped listening to the same mom who had forever saved his sorry a$$.

When did Shaurya listen to his mom and stop his disgusting betting over women? When did he ever respect his mom?

All this was done only for Durga and her sudden victories only.

Likewise everything has been made convenient for Sakshi too, like her entering Raima's house at midnight and shooting her without the maid noticing her.

There is not a single plan of Durga that was well explained, well grounded, well thought out.

In fact the sudden property issue also happened by luck as Arnab's will already had such a clause. It certainly did not happen due to Durga's genius.

Property was left by Arnab for his son, Durga had nothing to do with it, but she did help Dev get out of jail to claim that property

Luck has constantly saved only Durga in this show apart from Dev. She was the one who trusted Shaurya and was about to be trapped by him, but Payal was victim. She survived while her whole family died or got insane. She got more favour than even real Durga Thakur as Dayal favoured her like anything (funny he had issues with his own daughter but did everything for fake Durga).
Even now Shaurya wanted her but it was Dayal who got killed.
So who is lucky?

Shaurya actually wanted to kill Dayal himself as he just found out Dayal had hired the martial arts experts to beat him up. Nitya almost died, she didnt survive due to good luck but by chance as Dayal found her

In end also she is going to win by luck and chamatkar.

She has to win, she lost everything because of the evil Goenkas. They have to pay for their sins against everyone, not just Nitya

And you claim writer favours villains. Brief counter attack by villains doesn't mean villains are favoured. You think they would have remained silent after that paralysis and all? Just sitting and waiting for Durga to hit them?

Sakshi has counter attacked many times before, the worst was when she sent goons to mentally torture Payal and make her mad again. That was one of her worst crimes, what she did with Payal all along. Sakshi also shot Raima and pinned the blame on Dev. When did she ever sit silently?

I did not say Sakshi saw Akram. I said anyone can see Akram so he must be careful especially after his past experience, which he is NOT. He is basically not a guy to be excited about. Just a clockwork toy who will not even move properly unless keyed in the right way. His stupidity and ignorance irks me.

Villains will lose in end. So what's the argument?

I would to see them battle in their original identities rather than being in disguise

@Pallavi

Please do not give me reasons why villains need to lose. I know very well why they deserve to lose.

I only pointed out hokum plans.

Rajnath did listen to Sakshi often. In fact earlier most were suspecting him to be a henpecked husband if you remember. So his sudden ignorance of how much Dayal was meddling in his matters and how each attack on Shaurya was somehow connected to Durga was a blooper.

My point is HOW did Durga know that she needed to plant cams in Raima's bedroom? It means she did know of affair but wanted first hand proof. So how did she know of the affair?

If you recall, then camera was placed inside Ganguly's office not his home. So how did Durga know he was abusive at home also?

Akash did nothing and was often scolded by all Goenkas. Especially Raj and Shaurya. He only apparently helped bump off Bagchi. Otherwise mostly he left jobs undone, meddled too much and was caught outside Thakurs house. You forgot how much Raj hated and scolded him? Such tycoons never keep such faltu employees for this long as much as Goenkas kept Akash.

Akash getting saved from goons was also not convincing as he was still in visible range and not hiding.

When did I say Sakshi did not counter attack? My point is all villains counter attack. This time it was Shaurya.

It is never like only one person keeps attacking and others sit and swat flies. Or wait to take attacks on themselves in a war!

Yes you and I differ over this. Ghost thing is the stupidest thing you can do in these times and that too with a politician's son who is a yuva morcha leader himself. Its stupidity is no less to buh buh beautiful BS recently with Sakshi.

You said only villains are winning which is not true.Or luck is favouring only villains, which again has many examples to prove that it is not entirely true. You said villains win by idiotic plans - sorry, but heroine has had more idiotic plans to her credit.

A VIP like Mathur who is even going to get award next day at a huge public function has no security at his house and anybody enters and plants shit in his house without being discovered? Joke.

Akash planting cameras in Raima's house was also a joke. FYI, such rich people have proper concierges and professional agencies to manage such things as repairs etc. No motley mechanic can just enter their house and do as he pleases. Only verified staff with ID cards is allowed inside. That was not a logical thing either.

Regarding commissioner, truth is that such things like not agreeing to marry are not reasons why powerful people fall out. It was a flimsy ground. Daughter slept with Shaurya willingly. She wanted to marry him but he didn't and that's it. Such GF/BF dramas keep happening. Just as it is no big deal for both Basus and Goenkas to break Karan and Kangana engagement even. Breaking of engagement or marriage is still an issue. But refusal to marry a GF is no issue.
Rather it was a surprise that Commissioner even went with proposal of daughter's marriage to a rapist! Some honourable man!

Anyway, both sides have had idiotic things. Earlier Durga kept winning, finally also she will win then where is the issue of writer favouring villains?

Goenka type people are like tigers. Even accidentally landing up inside a tiger's lair gets a person killed. Here we need complete takedown and that will happen, but not without its consequences and counter attacks by the enemy. Don't forget even so called trained, injected and captive wild beats end up escaping and wreak havoc. Some difficulty and challenge have to be there.

They are not going to sit and say Aao Durga bitya, maar lo hum ko!

Originally posted by: atominis

@Pallavi

Rajnath did listen to Sakshi often. In fact earlier most were suspecting him to be a henpecked husband if you remember. So his sudden ignorance of how much Dayal was meddling in his matters and how each attack on Shaurya was somehow connected to Durga was a blooper.

Rajnath didnt listen always to Sakshi in matters of business...more in matters of who to dispose of, how to arm twist people, who to hire and so on

My point is HOW did Durga know that she needed to plant cams in Raima's bedroom? It means she did know of affair but wanted first hand proof. So how did she know of the affair?

Remember Durga meeting Raima first when she was with Shaurya, Raima seemed nervous to see Shaurya and seemed to be waiting for someone, thats when Durga looked suspiciously at her, later also she found Raima's behavior suspicious as if shes hiding something from Goenkas, so Durga had spycams planted

If you recall, then camera was placed inside Ganguly's office not his home. So how did Durga know he was abusive at home also?

Spycam was planted in his home office, Akash disguised as mechanic was also in the living room, he planted cams there too

Akash did nothing and was often scolded by all Goenkas. Especially Raj and Shaurya. He only apparently helped bump off Bagchi. Otherwise mostly he left jobs undone, meddled too much and was caught outside Thakurs house. You forgot how much Raj hated and scolded him? Such tycoons never keep such faltu employees for this long as much as Goenkas kept Akash.

Sakshi hired him as her Man Friday, not knowing he was actually Durga's foot soldier. After Mathur's departure Sakshi and Rajnath needed someone to do their dirty work

Akash getting saved from goons was also not convincing as he was still in visible range and not hiding.


It is never like only one person keeps attacking and others sit and swat flies. Or wait to take attacks on themselves in a war!

Durga hasnt attacked them in a long time, she has been too busy saving Dev's sorry a** so recently its been only one-sided attacks from Sakshi and Shaurya on Durga

Yes you and I differ over this. Ghost thing is the stupidest thing you can do in these times and that too with a politician's son who is a yuva morcha leader himself. Its stupidity is no less to buh buh beautiful BS recently with Sakshi.

I said the same thing...Bhoot, Bank and paralysis cure...all 3 tricks are equally stupid!

You said only villains are winning which is not true.Or luck is favouring only villains, which again has many examples to prove that it is not entirely true. You said villains win by idiotic plans - sorry, but heroine has had more idiotic plans to her credit.

A VIP like Mathur who is even going to get award next day at a huge public function has no security at his house and anybody enters and plants shit in his house without being discovered? Joke.

Did Mathur live in a gated house or just a plush apartment?

Akash planting cameras in Raima's house was also a joke. FYI, such rich people have proper concierges and professional agencies to manage such things as repairs etc. No motley mechanic can just enter their house and do as he pleases. Only verified staff with ID cards is allowed inside. That was not a logical thing either.

Do socialites have the same kind of security as Goenkas or Thakurs would? Raima is just a socialite, not a famous person. Akash pretended to be from some company that repairs household machines, I think he also had a card

Regarding commissioner, truth is that such things like not agreeing to marry are not reasons why powerful people fall out. It was a flimsy ground. Daughter slept with Shaurya willingly. She wanted to marry him but he didn't and that's it. Such GF/BF dramas keep happening. Just as it is no big deal for both Basus and Goenkas to break Karan and Kangana engagement even. Breaking of engagement or marriage is still an issue. But refusal to marry a GF is no issue.
Rather it was a surprise that Commissioner even went with proposal of daughter's marriage to a rapist! Some honourable man!

Anyway, both sides have had idiotic things. Earlier Durga kept winning, finally also she will win then where is the issue of writer favouring villains?

Goenka type people are like tigers. Even accidentally landing up inside a tiger's lair gets a person killed. Here we need complete takedown and that will happen, but not without its consequences and counter attacks by the enemy. Don't forget even so called trained, injected and captive wild beats end up escaping and wreak havoc. Some difficulty and challenge have to be there.

They are not going to sit and say Aao Durga bitya, maar lo hum ko!

@Pallavi

Durga cannot kill, rape or maim the way Goenkas do. Otherwise what will be the difference between them and her? Already the lines between them are blurred considering the path of deception and vigilante justice that Durga has taken.
The paralysis episode was criticised too (like any other crime episode), despite many of us liking Shaurya in pain and getting just desserts.

Yes I wrote on how Durga was dumbed down after Dev's entry and especially her marriage. But I have always pointed out loopholes in villain side too. And in reply to those analysis posts I would get "it's just a show" type replies. So it's okay to dumb villains for heroine?

The villains in this show were always supposed to be grand. This is why they had approached big actors including Bollywood actresses like Sushmita Sen and Urmila Matondkar for role of Sakshi Goenka. They are supposed to be local version of Ambanis.
Such established people are big players who are difficult to take down. And that is what is happening.

What do you want? For them to sit down and say, "Haan ji main rapist hun mujhko maar do bhai!"??

Durga has also gotten many evidence very easily in past which I pointed out. In fact Kangana also got convinced too easily to follow her to Karan's house! I said easily because she was so obsessed with Karan that she wouldn't hear a word on him from anyone!

Rajnath did listen to Sakshi. I hope you remember Sakshi was introduced as MD of Goenka Industries and she is also heading Cancer research project (till now when power shifted). She was not just in arm twist dramas.

If Durga just saw Raima at night club and then got spycams planted then why do you have problems with Sakshi investigating things on basis of suspicion?

Ganguly used to molest girls at workplace office and not home office. So what made Durga think of planting cameras at his home also?

Akash was not a Man Friday! He was hired as CEO and legal adviser of Goenka Industries! 😲 Yet what did he do? NOTHING. Infact he was often scolded and doubted by Raj, Shaurya and finally even Sakshi herself.

What one sided attacks? Haven't Raj and Sakshi lost power at Goenka industries and lost cancer research project? Basu fell out with them. Sakshi-Raj-Raima unity broke and while Raima is in coma, Raj is plotting against Sakshi. Shaurya remained paralysed all these months only barking on wheelchair!
Sakshi's plan to put Dev in jail also failed.

Earlier also, all murder attempts of Sakshi had failed.

Rajnath was made so dumb that despite every attack on Shaurya linked to Durga, he never saw Thakurs as threat, nor did anything to counter or thwart them! Which tycoon is this foolish and lets other business partner dance on his head the way Rajnath let Dayal?

Still you call it one sided?

Where do you think Mathur lived? A jhopdi? Of course he lived in a plush bungalow! His house had high walls and gates. Being right hand man of Goenkas, their legal adviser and CEO, he was a VIP! Is it that simple to enter and leave a VIP's house without being discovered? It was done to make things butter smooth for Durga!

You keep denying but villains are also dumbed down often in this show. Shaurya and his friends were unbelievably dumbed down and even made to act against same pandit who had saved them. Sorry but no boy is this stupid over a hard to get girl. Till now Shaurya could not even figure out that Durga was connected to all attacks on him! He ignored not only his own experience, mother's warning but also warnings of his friends on Durga.
Shaurya's paralysis and attack is a joke also because the uber rich have many guards and spies with them. They may not directly accompany them but they follow them and defend them just in case of any threat. Whereas here Shaurya was all alone and easily got beaten up at a dhaba.
Villains were dumbed many times and made to go in circles or just sit and bitch, doing nothing! Is this is one sided?

I pointed in another thread, all stories are like this only be it fairytales, movies or mythology like Mahabharat. The writers have same rationale too. Only if villains are strong and hard to take down or pose tough challenge, then only hero or heroine becomes more heroic for taking on them. And that's exactly what actor Bhupinder Singh had also said - that any story's as strong as its conflicting factor, i.e., the antagonist.

If at all the writers have favoured a character and made heroine and villains dumb or sidelined them or left questions unanswered it is Dev D. There is marked difference in portrayal of both heroine and villains since his entry.

Durga first learnt Sakshi was Sakshi Rehmat Khan from Akram. Of course she only will get tapes. But how is it going to happen in 1 day when she was busy with Karan expose and now sidetracked by mourning?
If she is careless with security and has still not learnt from past experience then it is her fault. Why expect villains to be always dumbed down to match up to level of others up against them? They have already been dumbed down enough. What else is expected? No retaliation at all and just sit and wait to get hit?