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Posted: 11 years ago
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I do not understand Jodha in Maham's episode
Jodha saw in her own eyes Maham's son Adham tried to kill her husband a Shahenshah a month before
Jodha knows Maham killed Jalal and Ruqus kid with a ark because of which Ruku cannot become mother and hence Jo has to give her baby to Ruq
Jodha knows Maham tried to create misunderstanding that Sujamal is her lover in Akbar's mind
YET she goes and tries to feed her OKKK fineee with me she is a great human feeling sympathy
But what is this today she says take back shrap curse
Dear Jo are you doing Maham seva because she is another human being like you OR to make her take back curse?
And how will Akbar the father feel once he knows your intention?
He is really angry at Maham because she curse his babies YETTT he never went and told her take back your curse badi ammi blah blah Why? Have you ever thought of that
Is Maham curse so much importance?
Do curse apply on innocent kids? Never
Is this not promoting stupid superstition that an evil dai ma curse gets a empire's powerful emperor and his queen so jittery
Jodha do you believe in God or an evil woman curse?
Akbar seems to be believing God while you are scared of an evil woman and her curse
Any rational thinking human will feel that curse cannot have an impact on babies.
Your husband Akbar only says father's crime kids should not be punished
Do you not believe in that?
OK Akbar killed Adham a bit cruelly than was required so will God punish babies for that never God is great and consider all humans as his kids. Especially God loves kids and will never ever hurt them. Where is your faith in God?
And why do you forget all actions of human is written by God only man only impements. God wrote Adham's cruel death because his crimes were so much. Akbar only impelemented what God had wanted.
Stop going to Maham and begging her to remove curse and she curse Akbar and babies more pls stop doing this. This is promoting superstition openly.
Seconly in real history Maham tried to kill Akbar twice and killed his few babies. Why is she being shown as some tragedy heroine here? Akbar is looking like a villan a esaan faramosh son here. Why CVs? Are you not tired already spoiling many Akbar's family reputation by showing them as villan be it Bakshi, Nigar, Hamida, Ruqu and Akbar himself many times before. Now why show him as a ungrateful son while in reality he treated a daima with more respect than own mother even though he is an emperor. Which man in real history has treated daima with so much respect and love ever? Which man has forgiven his daima and her children for repeated murder attempts on him? Yet you are making Gulbadan say maham saved his life many times. She saved him on that Kabul fort when Akbar and she was bombarded by humayun forces. So many soldiers have given their life to save Akbar in so many wars does that have no value? Only once maham saved him and she becomes greater than some angel?
I somehow do not like this kind of portrayal of a pure villan.
At that rate we can say hitler was a saviour to Aryans and germans etc every villan is a hero of someone else that does not make them real heroes.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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To me it's just a desperation of a mother, Jo did not help MA to have her take back the curse, but yes as a mom to be it must be worrying
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Ur 2nd point is wrong. This was true Jodha had found out real culprit behind ruq's miscarriaging but duplicate maham sent this issue in grave forever n jodha also compelled to believe duplicate maham had killed ruq's unborn child.
Jodha didn't ever ask to maham taking back her baad dua before infact she had no willing to meet with maham just for doing withdrawal baad dua frm maham. Jodha has started to meet with her when RK continuosly has started to plead before. However, Jodha already has seen many times Jalal is saying that how can maham give baad dua his children? Simultaneously he assures jodha nothing wl b happened his kids for maham's baad dua but jalal himself can't come out frm the fear of baad dua(maham's fb of jalal at the time of bb's baby's examining by hakim is a big example) n this has been caught by jodha hence for sake of stopping jalal's inner turmoil for this baad dua she has asked maham to take back her words. Moreover, yet in this 21 century ppl believe on many superstitious n show's time is 16th century then whats dumbfound matter if they get fear n believe on superstitious!
Edited by ILTHBEB - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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It's only jodha who is having more trust on god than others and she dint even once Thoght abt curse...
1) first HB tied thread to Jo aftr Maham curse
2) second HB gb sb discussed abt Maham curse
3) Jallu infront of tarazu, infront of burnt throne, infront of bakshi kid wen hakim said she cudnt hear Thoght abt Maham curse in all these incidents... Even yday wen Jo was praying he Thoght just lik him even Jo was praying abt baddua but jo said she is praying for Maham health
4) fourth rukayya by bringing ppl bcz of baddua...
5) fifth moti n Resham made remembered abt curse

So it's not Jo it's all others who r actually thinking abt curse and it's effect...even if Jo thinks abt curse wats wrong in it?? It's abt kids and worst curse any mother cud hv ever heard... But still she made herself strong not to think abt curse and never Thoght abt it and helping Maham in last days... I think yday aftr prayer scene Jo must hv Thoght that Jallu is still thinking abt curse and so she must hv asked her abt it...Jo had no intention to go and meet Maham and ask her to take back her curse... It's Bcz if Resham who pleaded so she went to see Maham... Jo wud hv never gone if Resham Wudnt hv said abt Maham...we shud scold cvs for showing that Maham curse is gonna become true and god granted her curse...

2) I dnt think Jo knws abt Maham involvement in ruk MC... That duplicate Maham was shown to us and even Jo believed that she only killed unborn not Maham...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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even i do not understand her now
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Posted: 11 years ago
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From my memory of the Ruq MC track, I thought something happened and Jo ended up suspecting real MA (not Lakhi), but the CVs never developed that. I'll have to research it later however as I am on the road with unreliable and slow internet.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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to understand Jo i would give you a simple example ..water ...
water's property is to flow through it doesn't differentiate .kindness is also like water .certain places uses the water and blooms ... U can take people like zakira, who when kindness is given redeem themselves and bloom but when the same water enters a muddy pool it gets stagnated ...people like sharif etc never understand this
it's not the fault of the water but the fault of the land through which it goes through.. Likewise kindness can't be selectively applied ...the very nature of Jo is same .. She emanate kindness...with that understanding if we view we would understand her kindness towrds kyber maham or anyone for that matter...
such people never believes in curses or illwell rather they believe in almighty and take life as it comes...this has been reiterated by her many times during ruq or hb dua or the conversation with Jalal..
that's y i was initially shocked when she was shown for retaction of curses.. That would be our initial reaction if we just take that episode alone.. But if we zoomed out and see the bigger picture ..we would know she could have done it for 2 reasons
1. She never went to maham on her own even after resham's continuous pleading she initially only sent hakim to check on maham's condition,only after hakim came and said maham has only a few days left ..she went... Even for a murderer we always give a chance to complete his last wish ..and maham being in her death bed Jo just want to give her a peaceful death by lying to her that some part of adham still remains..it just an act of kindness ... The retraction of curses can be asked for 2 reasons 1. Could have been for jalal's sake since he was most affected and hurt by it .2.when maham ask what is your intention ..she cannot very well say it just an act of kindness so might have simply given the reason which would be en like maham's way of thinking every act of kindness should have a hidden purpose behind it.. Because people like maham doesn't have the capacity to understand true seflessness..may be on the verge of death maham may realise this ..
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