Mughal culture of giving a kid to another wife - Page 3

Originally posted by: deejagi

Guys why do we have to blame this as Mughal culture. It happens even in Hinduism. Further it was not just during 16th Century but even in 21st Century (even in common people) in a family of 3 or 4 married couple, if one happens to not have issues (kids), they will adopted one of the kid from within the family. This will happen either to keep the harmony in the family, or out of love (for the childless mother or in some cases due to monitory reasons such as the family wealth not to be shared by outsiders.

And as for as the love is concerned among the children, there wont be any discrimination but yes, the first male child will get the priority over others as he will be the heir to the throne in case of royals, and he will be the head of the family in case of commoners. I am in a joint family and the second DIL to the family and even though we stay as individual families, when it comes to decision making or any celebration, we will look at my Brother in law who is the first son of the family and we obey his decisions. In my maternal house, it is much complex as they are still under the one roof basis (my uncles) and my father was the eldest son and now he is no more but everyone including my uncles kids will look at my brother for major decision making. It is true that everyone will share their view but the first son will be the one who needs to take the decision and at the same time, if some thing goes wrong, he will have to take the blame or burden on his shoulder.

I have also seen a family with 2 sons, where the elder one could not have his own kids even after marrying twice (and neither him nor his wives had any major problems) but his younger brother had 2 sons and 4 daughters. Then the father (and grand father to those kids) decided and called him younger son and daughter in law and advised them to handover the second son to the childless couples and they without any qualm, gave their son to the elder couple. Later that second son was the one who took care of all his sisters and parents (2 fathers & 3 mothers).

So giving a child for adoption or adopting a child has nothing to do with Mughal culture.

Originally posted by: myviewprem

In today's individualistic commercial world its rare a brother gives his child to other brother. Its kudos to that man and his wife if they did that.

Here I am not blaming the culture of giving child for adoption but intention of the mothers. See humayun mom already had humayun as child why she asked for hindal from his mother? May be because humayun was always in battle field and she felt bored in the harem.

But what about Ruqaiah asking for Khurram. If Ruqaiah loved to be a mother why she never asked for Salim's first son Khusrau or second one parvez why ask for younger son Khurram only. Because she heard court astrologer saying he will be more famous than his father and grandfather as emperor and reach new heights.

Secondly if Ruqaiah want to be mother why not ask for one of Akbar's second son Murad's 6 sons or third son Daniyal's sons. Because Ruqaiah knew they can never be emperors isn't it? So was her love for the child or the perks of being a future emperors foster mother?

I do not doubt the intention of ruqaiah to be a mother for one child but she forced Akbar to hand over jehangir and jodha's only child born almost 10 years after marriage with lots of prayers to be handed over to her. Were jehangir and jodha fine with it? As a parent if I get an child after 10 years of marriage after a lot of prayers will I be willing to hand it over to anyone? Never that too if I know I can never be mom again. But Akbar was an emperor who could dare oppose him not even a Jehangir at that time.

Was it not true that when Salim rebelled in 1599 to 1603 Akbar told Ruqaiah to allow Jodha more access to Khurram? Why could that be? Was it not a fact that since all three sons of Salim were brought up in Akbar's household they were never close to their parents especially father and openly disobeyed and flouted his orders. Because for them Akbar was their father figure their authority not a Salim aka Jehangir.

So we cannot compare the 21st century adoption of relatives kids to a 16th century adoption that too in a royal household the richest in world. There adoption was not about loving a child or being its mother only. It involved many more dynamics.

Originally posted by: LekhSha

jst a correction,

Jahangir aka salims mom is jodha bhai

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jahangirs wife ismun bhai and she is bhagwan das daughter.

Jahangirs son is shehajaha his mom is mun bhai.

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Originally posted by: Sweet24

Jahagir son was kushrao who was extremely intellegent and more prmising candidate than jahagir. Akbar has decided to give throne to his grandson, but there was some news came that khusrao had tried to kill his own father. I think this was a game of rukaiya begam only. Because she was given khurraam, 3 child of jahagir, she want him to became king that's the reason she supported jahagir.
Jahagir has become blind for throne that's why sfter becoming king he given orders to take out his own sons eyes. 😡
Khusrao had many suporters like rahim, mansingh and many more,. From taking revenge from all of them jahagir will throw mansingh out, will kill all childrens of rahim. I have heard he kiled abt 20000 people. 😡
Khuram will kill his elder brother and all grandsons of akbar except himself, so that he will be the last and final davedar of kingdom. When he sit on throne , he was called shahjahah.
Shahjahah was the son of jodhpur princess Gagat singh Gosain(jodha bai) and salim. Actually salim mother wwas. Named harka bai or heer kuwari, which was misunderstod as jodha.