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Posted: 11 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: karishma.s

Originally posted by ayushimehra

Hi, Maddi,

I can see your Upset ness,


But My point is differ, I know this track is for Ruk Downfall. But Ruk downfall happen or not, this time, because we know, She will be forgiven after some time.

Ques is not Jalal gave Vachan To Ruk, Ques is here Child safty. Is Ruk is responsibile person for child.;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;i think NO.

Adopting is not a Bad thing. But Way which she is choosing, Totally Wrong.

We know Child will die, But Jalal jodha Ruk not knows.;;;;;;;;;;;;;;So if a child dies for carelessness of Ruk;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;This point very troubling Me. so who is responisibile

Is Everyone have Power, to Create child, or Alive child again. if Not, you not Rights to Take Wrong decesions

Because Twins, survive, together, If we today sees, Twins, Behaviour, One is ill second is ill.

So child, given to which person;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;That responsibilty very countable.

you can't leave child,;;;;;;;;;;;;;Unresponsibile Hands.

so this delicate decesion should be taken very carefully,

Lets see. As A mother jodha should also aware this Point. Goodness or Awareness Two are different things;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;or you can't Risk, God gifted Precious creations,;;;; specially; Child in this way.

Childs are not experiment things. They need a lot of Love & Care. Even in 21 cen Child adopting is not easy thing.

So CV should be careful today., Handle this delicate matter delicately.



Wonderful post Ayushi. 👏👏👏
You are as always so insightful and bang on.

Exactly it does not matter what Ruk wants or what wish Jalal gave. Babies are not objects to be handed over on whims!

When it is question of babies what should be the ONLY consideration is their upbringing. This is even more important when we are talking about babies who are supposed to become waris to the Mughal throne and to take that responsibility as adults.

Has Jalal thought even for sec WHO should be raising the babies? Jodha cares about Rahim as her own child, what about Ruk who has double relation with SB as she is Ruk's first cousin? So Ruk has seen Rahim since as baby but she has hardly any attachment to him.

I wish Jodha refuses Ruk in DEK but she won't! Cos for Jodha it will be crucial that Jalal does not lose face in DEK he is not shown as going back on his word as Shehenshah so Jodha will sacrifice most probably and have to agree to give her baby to Ruk.

This is absolutely butchering Jalal and Jodha characters by CVs that they are so helpless at the manipulations in the hands of a selfish audha obsessed woman.

What makes Jalal NOT doubt Ruk's intentions?

Small babies are precious and CVs using them like some kind of trophy to be fought over and manipulated by a violent selfish woman to satisfy her greed for power is pathetic.



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Absolutely Maddy. Is there some way that we can contact the zee people and tell them that we wont ruks insulted the way jodha was insulted in the ben track? Can we tell the that we want her humiliated by jalal in the dek, it should be done in a way that no one knows about it. Cause if hamida and jodha get a whiff of it, they will stop the humiliation and will encourage jalal to settle matters in private, which ruks doesn't deserve.



We can call Zee like some people do. Their numbers are 022-24955555 and 022-24943416.
I have called them a few times but never managed to get much information.

The thing is these CVs are obsessed with vamps glorification and Ruk and MA are their favorites. MA's downfall was a big joke and so will be Ruk's.

I want to see Ruk absolutely humiliated in DEK.

Ruk fake pregnancy track was so disgusting JA lost lot of viewers due to that, but CVs are far more interested in pampering Ruk MA than care about how they make Jalal and Jodha look or TRPs also. 😡

This is worst track for Jalal cos he is going to be HUMILIATED in DEk by his "Jaan Begum" and he is going to look helpless in her hands!
Jodha will have to give up her baby so that Jalal does not lose face, what way will this make his character shine?

Have you noticed lately Ruk has better costumes better jewelry than even Jalal and Jodha!
Strange ways of JA CVs!
I guess Ekta pampers them too much!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by karishma.s

Originally posted by ayushimehra

Hi, Maddi,

I can see your Upset ness,


But My point is differ, I know this track is for Ruk Downfall. But Ruk downfall happen or not, this time, because we know, She will be forgiven after some time.

Ques is not Jalal gave Vachan To Ruk, Ques is here Child safty. Is Ruk is responsibile person for child.;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;i think NO.

Adopting is not a Bad thing. But Way which she is choosing, Totally Wrong.

We know Child will die, But Jalal jodha Ruk not knows.;;;;;;;;;;;;;;So if a child dies for carelessness of Ruk;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;This point very troubling Me. so who is responisibile

Is Everyone have Power, to Create child, or Alive child again. if Not, you not Rights to Take Wrong decesions

Because Twins, survive, together, If we today sees, Twins, Behaviour, One is ill second is ill.

So child, given to which person;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;That responsibilty very countable.

you can't leave child,;;;;;;;;;;;;;Unresponsibile Hands.

so this delicate decesion should be taken very carefully,

Lets see. As A mother jodha should also aware this Point. Goodness or Awareness Two are different things;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;or you can't Risk, God gifted Precious creations,;;;; specially; Child in this way.

Childs are not experiment things. They need a lot of Love & Care. Even in 21 cen Child adopting is not easy thing.

So CV should be careful today., Handle this delicate matter delicately.



Wonderful post Ayushi. 👏👏👏
You are as always so insightful and bang on.

Exactly it does not matter what Ruk wants or what wish Jalal gave. Babies are not objects to be handed over on whims!

When it is question of babies what should be the ONLY consideration is their upbringing. This is even more important when we are talking about babies who are supposed to become waris to the Mughal throne and to take that responsibility as adults.

Has Jalal thought even for sec WHO should be raising the babies? Jodha cares about Rahim as her own child, what about Ruk who has double relation with SB as she is Ruk's first cousin? So Ruk has seen Rahim since as baby but she has hardly any attachment to him.

I wish Jodha refuses Ruk in DEK but she won't! Cos for Jodha it will be crucial that Jalal does not lose face in DEK he is not shown as going back on his word as Shehenshah so Jodha will sacrifice most probably and have to agree to give her baby to Ruk.

This is absolutely butchering Jalal and Jodha characters by CVs that they are so helpless at the manipulations in the hands of a selfish audha obsessed woman.

What makes Jalal NOT doubt Ruk's intentions?

Small babies are precious and CVs using them like some kind of trophy to be fought over and manipulated by a violent selfish woman to satisfy her greed for power is pathetic.



REPLY:
Absolutely Maddy. Is there some way that we can contact the zee people and tell them that we wont ruks insulted the way jodha was insulted in the ben track? Can we tell the that we want her humiliated by jalal in the dek, it should be done in a way that no one knows about it. Cause if hamida and jodha get a whiff of it, they will stop the humiliation and will encourage jalal to settle matters in private, which ruks doesn't deserve.


We can call Zee like some people do. Their numbers are 022-24955555 and 022-24943416.
I have called them a few times but never managed to get much information.

The thing is these CVs are obsessed with vamps glorification and Ruk and MA are their favorites. MA's downfall was a big joke and so will be Ruk's.

I want to see Ruk absolutely humiliated in DEK.

Ruk fake pregnancy track was so disgusting JA lost lot of viewers due to that, but CVs are far more interested in pampering Ruk MA than care about how they make Jalal and Jodha look or TRPs also. 😡

This is worst track for Jalal cos he is going to be HUMILIATED in DEk by his "Jaan Begum" and he is going to look helpless in her hands!
Jodha will have to give up her baby so that Jalal does not lose face, what way will this make his character shine?

Have you noticed lately Ruk has better costumes better jewelry than even Jalal and Jodha!
Strange ways of JA CVs!
I guess Ekta pampers them too much!
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Agree Maddy totally. This is the worst thing one can endure. Jalal better get to know ruks intension, before i loose my sanity and the last shreds of patience that are left. Jodha has worn that pink dress 3 times or more than that in the last week and i better not talk about the chunky pearl set. I dont know how mant times that ugly set is going to be repeaed. Jodha's look needs to be done asap.😡. Believe me maddy, if this goes on for more than next week, then trp's will crash. Cause people have no interest in seeing ruks smirking in getting one kid forcefully out of jodha and jalal and jodha getting fruit facial treatment in the jail by maham. Trust me if jalal acts helpless and gives helpless looks to jodha in the DEK, i dont know what will escape my tongue. He better tell ruk that even as a shehensha he cant order a mother to separate from her child as it is sin and an emperor cant commit that sin. Sin is beyond any wish. I personally dont think maham will be good to jodha. Or she might act good to win jodha's trust and then backstab her by helping ruk to kill her babies. I swear😡 what in the name of God have the CVS got us into😡
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Posted: 11 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: MaddyO



Tamy - Of course Jalal loves Jodha.
See it this way - he will feel bad, he said no to Ruk. Then why did he think about giving baby to Ruk in Jodha's hojara?

I meant that the baby will have been with Jodha all the time and she is going to lose her baby to the like of Ruk. For Jalal the baby either with Jodha or Ruk will be more or less same as father.

Husband of Jodha Jalal will feel bad but as father it really does not make any difference to him. Why did he not feel or say to Ruk that he does not feel she is capable of taking care of a child?

When he thought Ruk was pregnant in her faking thing - that time also Jalal used to tell Jodha that she will be taking care of the baby. Now Jalal does not think how capable Ruk is of being a mother? He does not suspect Ruk has some motive in this? After she went to the extent of faking pregnancy - when he baby talked to her tummy she stood there and let him! Jalal still does not doubt Ruk AT ALL!


agreed...but he even thought "hum Ruqaiyya Begum ko khushi dene ke liye Jodha Begum ko taqleef nahi desakte" in Jodha's hojra...Maddy...take urself as example..if someone asks something from u even it is an unethical demand u will for once think over it..Jalal did the same..the thought was on his mind..but he didnt talk about it with Jodha coz he simply doesnt want to give the baby.
u must have noticed he clenched his fist in precap that shows the extent of his anger...he just doesnt want the topic to pop up.
rahi baat understanding Ruqu's motive, not anyone in Agra doubts her!! I've observed, both JJ kind of pamper her...not only Jalal...its like both babysitting Ruqaiyya and she is taking advantage of it...about taking care of the baby he refused the give the baby so taking care doesnt comes into account...lets wait for the episode...lets see how he reacts and conversation takes place between him and Jodha.

hope this is Ruqaiyya's final blow.
Edited by tamy267 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Maddy, Jo will make Ruku winner... and that was clear hint in yest episode, when she says they should share their happiness with Ruku...

Jo is way too soft hearted, to the limit of looking a fool while doing sacrifice for others all the time... it's her nature... she believes in goodness all the time... be sure she will never even guess any evil intentions in anybody's minds... so it can be only Jalal or Salima, who can stop Ruku... abt Jo , be sure , she will give her child to Ruku
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Posted: 11 years ago
#85
MAddy, what you have suggested is a great idea.
But we all know that both the kids will not survive.
And we also know Jodha is MUZ...
I too feel, Jodha might agree to give to kid (as always she is showm mahan in serial)
And just a thought, this is Ekta's serial so anything can happen... What if the twins are joined together.. and thats the cause of thier death.. according to Ekta 😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Wonderful thread Maddy!! 👍🏼
No words to say, I loved yesterday's episode as I felt Jalal looks perfect in terms of handling Ruku weird appeal. He doesn't promise her anything but he was firm with his own POV.. No doubt he never agree or flow away with Ruku's wish, it was clear from his answers.. Infact even Ruku was full on herself mode when she came to meet Ja hojra.. Ur thread title says a lot no never she can't win over them.. Whatever she is playing right now is gonna to backfire her badly.. All way JJ'S victory at end..
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Posted: 11 years ago
#87

Originally posted by: karishma.s

Originally posted by ayushimehra

Hi, Maddi,

I can see your Upset ness,


But My point is differ, I know this track is for Ruk Downfall. But Ruk downfall happen or not, this time, because we know, She will be forgiven after some time.

Ques is not Jalal gave Vachan To Ruk, Ques is here Child safty. Is Ruk is responsibile person for child.;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;i think NO.

Adopting is not a Bad thing. But Way which she is choosing, Totally Wrong.

We know Child will die, But Jalal jodha Ruk not knows.;;;;;;;;;;;;;;So if a child dies for carelessness of Ruk;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;This point very troubling Me. so who is responisibile

Is Everyone have Power, to Create child, or Alive child again. if Not, you not Rights to Take Wrong decesions

Because Twins, survive, together, If we today sees, Twins, Behaviour, One is ill second is ill.

So child, given to which person;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;That responsibilty very countable.

you can't leave child,;;;;;;;;;;;;;Unresponsibile Hands.

so this delicate decesion should be taken very carefully,

Lets see. As A mother jodha should also aware this Point. Goodness or Awareness Two are different things;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;or you can't Risk, God gifted Precious creations,;;;; specially; Child in this way.

Childs are not experiment things. They need a lot of Love & Care. Even in 21 cen Child adopting is not easy thing.

So CV should be careful today., Handle this delicate matter delicately.



Wonderful post Ayushi. 👏👏👏
You are as always so insightful and bang on.

Exactly it does not matter what Ruk wants or what wish Jalal gave. Babies are not objects to be handed over on whims!

When it is question of babies what should be the ONLY consideration is their upbringing. This is even more important when we are talking about babies who are supposed to become waris to the Mughal throne and to take that responsibility as adults.

Has Jalal thought even for sec WHO should be raising the babies? Jodha cares about Rahim as her own child, what about Ruk who has double relation with SB as she is Ruk's first cousin? So Ruk has seen Rahim since as baby but she has hardly any attachment to him.

I wish Jodha refuses Ruk in DEK but she won't! Cos for Jodha it will be crucial that Jalal does not lose face in DEK he is not shown as going back on his word as Shehenshah so Jodha will sacrifice most probably and have to agree to give her baby to Ruk.

This is absolutely butchering Jalal and Jodha characters by CVs that they are so helpless at the manipulations in the hands of a selfish audha obsessed woman.

What makes Jalal NOT doubt Ruk's intentions?

Small babies are precious and CVs using them like some kind of trophy to be fought over and manipulated by a violent selfish woman to satisfy her greed for power is pathetic.



REPLY:
Absolutely Maddy. Is there some way that we can contact the zee people and tell them that we wont ruks insulted the way jodha was insulted in the ben track? Can we tell the that we want her humiliated by jalal in the dek, it should be done in a way that no one knows about it. Cause if hamida and jodha get a whiff of it, they will stop the humiliation and will encourage jalal to settle matters in private, which ruks doesn't deserve.


Excellent points by Ayushi and Karishma .

Ayushi , I am completely with you on your thoughts about babies not being objects that can be shared and experimented with .

A baby is not a toy to be given away so easily especially to a person who has a chameleon like personality and is completely devoid of motherly feelings and sensible thoughts .

Girls , I am hoping that the Creatives show us a very different side of Jodha . So long we have seen an 'aadarsh' patni . Now they should show us an 'aadarsh' mother who should refuse to separate her twins from each other and share them . By doing so , she will be making the best decision not just for the babies but also for Jalal and herself .
Jalal has been dying to turn daddy . Now that he is on the threshold of turning one , his shrewd thinking should come into full force . Instead of blindly saying "yes" to Rukaiyya after falling for her emotional crap , HE SHOULD LEAVE THE DECISION OF GIVING / NOT GIVING ONE TWIN TO JODHA AND JODHA ALONE . AFTER ALL SHE IS THE ONE CARRYING THEM AND SHOULD HAVE MORE SAY THAN THE SHEHENSHAH or anyone else , IN THIS MATTER .
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