Dr Dayal is a good father and not a bad guy

malikakas

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: atominis
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Goenkas don't want to keep committing crimes at drop of a hat. Hence no killing Thakurs. Plus Sakshi is only suspicious and wants everyone to cut off from Durga. She doesn't really know her so to try and kill her. They haven't even killed traitors like Mathur or Commissioner.

Rajnath's outburst showed how much money and efforts were wasted on one cover up. He is not going to allow murders at drop of a hat.

Even if we think they can kill anytime then Thakurs should be even more careful! And ensure better security and contacts. They can't be totally lax the way they are!

No excuse for their half baked approach.

Lol, I think we are going circles.

What I am trying to say is that just because Dayal didn't have loads of guards at the farmhouse doesn't mean he cares for Payal less than Durga. He doesn't have loads of guards for himself or Durga either.

Dayal cares a lot for Payal too-- but lets be honest everyone is a novice compared to Sakshi Goenka.

Dayal and Durga have never played a game like this in their lives. That was the one thing that was great about the American show-- Emily had grown up in a tough environment too and received training but even then she made some really silly mistakes. TV shows can't show the good guys having a plan for everything otherwise there is no drama.

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Posted: 11 years ago

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mallika how do you know Dayal has no security at home? Interestingly, we have never seen the exterior of the Thakur's house as of now. However, the man who assures a secret planning room for Durga doesn't have security sounds quite an oxymoron.

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Mallika I want to understand what you want to make me believe. Durga's faking identity is an offense or not ? Because with reference to IPC you claim Pseudoname is okay and then you say passport thing is a difficult catch. Dont contradict yourself and say it one word. Durga's fakeness is legal or illegal ?

Unfortunately Malika, your example has no meaning in this case. I guess you are too young to undestand how offcial thing happen in real life.

Please read this points carefully before making another post.

1. No, its not Dayal project alone. A project requires Govt sanctity. Without their permission you cannot build anything of your own, even if that land is yours and even if the money is all yours( no loans , no partners nothing). Still the Govt holds the right to cease to property on grounds of forgery.

2. Secondly, Durga is a fraud. Yes of course Shaurya is a fraud too. But he is faking his own certificate. Durga on the othe hand is using a certificate that is someone else's hard earned. This is a serous offence. Besides, working in different NGOs and the cancer project all the signatures she has made so far testifies her crime. He must be holding a bank account which belongs to original person.

3. Nitya has also staged her own death. In case of birth and deat, it is a legal duty to inform the authorities immediately and yes anyone can do that. You get a death /birth certificate in 15 days. Misappropriating it is a serious offence.

4. If one fine day , nitya loses any of the documents that belong to Durga and expect to get a new one. She has to apply for it. Just in case, her fingerprints doesn't match, the institution will register a case against her. Accordingly the court wwill ask for a DNA report.

5. Considering Durga was bron and brought in US , its most likely she holds an american passport. In such case, Durga can tried in both US and Indian courts.

6. Now your own example. If you a persona called A and you name your shop has 'B ke potatoes'. no that is no offense at all. But you apply for a trade liscence by forging youself B is a serrious offence.

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Now coming to your idea of Pseudo names. Pseudo names are never illegal. Let me tell you the difference between pseudo names and Faking identity.

1. You become a writer, you can keep a pseudo names. For eg. Harivansh Rai Bacchan was originally Srivastava

2. You become a superstar/popstar you can keep a pseudo name. For example Rajiv Bhatia became Akshay Kumar

3. One can have a nickname.

4. Titles and honours. These are not pseudo names but these are legally bestowed in a person. Thus, despite the orginal name, the title works for all times and places. Like Mohandas Gandhi is Mahatma.

5. A married woman shall inherit her husband's name

6. Change of name as per the law and publishing the same in the newspaper.

But taking someone else's place, faking a all new identity, misappropriating her funds and certificates and violating the existing legal norms do not count as only havng a pseudo name that doesn;y hamper the society, Of course it hampers the society. It gives a wrong impression that if a person is in a desperate need than faking herself is fine.

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Posted: 11 years ago

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1. No, its not Dayal project alone. A project requires Govt sanctity. Without their permission you cannot build anything of your own, even if that land is yours and even if the money is all yours( no loans , no partners nothing). Still the Govt holds the right to cease to property on grounds of forgery.

But the official paperwork would be done in Dayal's name-- he would be the one that put the application through. Legally he is employing Durga to assist.

2. Secondly, Durga is a fraud. Yes of course Shaurya is a fraud too. But he is faking his own certificate. Durga on the othe hand is using a certificate that is someone else's hard earned. This is a serous offence. Besides, working in different NGOs and the cancer project all the signatures she has made so far testifies her crime. He must be holding a bank account which belongs to original person.

I am not saying Durga isn't impersonating someone -- but there has to be some sort of evidence of cheating by impersonation.

The article I read gave several examples of the difference. For e.g.:

3.4.Personation before a public servant:

- In case of Khairati ram v. State, where the accused was not the payee mentioned in some money orders but falsely represented before the postman that he was the payee and produced false identity card also for identification and thus induced the postman to pay him the amounts and he also signed in the money order as payee, it was held that he was guilty of cheating by personation.

But In another case Jagat Narayan v. State where the accused under authorization from his brother who was the payee of a money order, went to the post office, signed in the name of his brother and received the money, he could not be held guilty of cheating by personation as there was no dishonest intention on his part."

What I am trying to say-- is that there is no dishonest intent in what she is doing. Meaning if she is taking money from Durga's account-- its money that belongs to Dayal and he has given her permission to do that.

Did you read the example of the other court case the article mentioned. If you get a job based on being someone else its only punishable if you wouldn't have gotten that job on your own. Nitya is volunteering at an NGO-- she doesn't need any credentials for that. Dayal is hiring her for the cancer research project knowing exactly who she is-- so she isn't cheating by personation.

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Okay Dayal is mahatma and Durga faking identity is not illegal.

Using basic common sense doesn't make anyone a mastermind. You mess with big fish. Yet you don't take care of basic safety and it should be excused as being a novice.

Yeah right!

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Yes Atominis even I give up. Faking a dead girl's identity is not illegal😆 I love India more than I ever did.

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Even today Dayal talked only about Durga's state. Kya haal kar diya Sakshi Goenka ne tera. Not a word on Payal whose haal is real one to be affected! 😡

Absolutely biased!🤢

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