Originally posted by: lal04
Agree
Arshicsji, thanks for the bytes. I caught all the episodes in one go mainly to get a glimpse of the family reunion. But firstly I'd like to scream why the Howard chandra never seeks the help of expert medical care or professional legal help when it is most needed.
I recollect the beginning when VC was rescued from the fire. Saras had used internet and skype to connect with the doctor in dubai for advice! And look how much we have fallen..
Alas, what a contrast in execution between saras encounter and that of the family with SM. While the former brought the intensity on to the screen the latter set in the tedium. The difference was the striking performances of the leads apart from the build-up to the scenario and the intense atmosphere. At the haveli all went awry due to samud's tactless handling, desais's inept and puzzled act kabir's 'at a loss' etc. In fact this reunion was given more time and space than the previous one. Even then the commitment of the actors and the execution had taken a severe beating. Mainly saras's performance didn't not even reach out to me due to the separate frame and was out of sync. (Frankly to me he appeared like a ringmaster who managed the desais circus and guided them all from a distance). Jen's performance has mostly been sketchy and her expressions a mismatch in the solo shots. Why always there is huge coordination problems concerning the leads? A surfeit of BDs and solo shots of leads largely diminish the effect of the crucial scenes. The funniest part is that the entire desais assemble in SM's room and give those distorted expressions while s & k standing in separate frames as astral bodies who attain fulfilment on hearing the lori or as sorrowful 'spirit' who watch the ott SM helplessly, from another plane.
Many big loopholes like why samud didn't give clear and prior information about SM's condition?
Why is no one even trying to find out what was SM doing all this time (20+ years at least)? No one is meeting the hospital trying to trace SM history, not even saras & kabir?
I mean both of them spent their entire lives traumatized due to the loss of SM. Saras saw her die in front of his eyes!!!!! Of all the people, isn't he the least bit curious???? Everyone's so blase about it ...as if SM had gone on a char dham pilgrimage for a month and had just returned back and with a girl in mind to get saras married!
Why desais are insensitive and unconscious of her state and go on treating her normally? When SM is totally lost in the past how come she feels an affinity and forms a relationship only with saras? How can the nurse subvert the mind of SM and exert a strong -ve influence within a very short span of time? When she can achieve this the family too can accomplish the task of restoring SM to her senses with their understanding, profuse love and support and more importantly with therapy and counselling. SM's anti-kumud tirade is an overdone show and unconvincing. In this whole thing the attention to detail was quite imprecise.
SM was in an asylum all these years seemingly untreatable despite the nurse. Why is the nurse required now? What difference did she make earlier? SM seems to be functionally normal and not bed-ridden...so what purpose will this nurse serve?
Whatever may be the theme it finally boils down to samud separation and kumud character butchery. Her constant crybaby avatar is irksome and unimpactful. She must be sensible, strong-willed and supportive of saras at least in this mission. But no, it seems it might be another recycle, rinse and repeat of kumud 'phenomenon'. The real concern is that the talented actress is being heavily typecast for a long period of time.
Agree again...I was one of the few ppl on this thread who was more on the Kumud camp (though I loved both the characters) especially due to her refreshingly different character...it was her inner strength, belief in her own personal compass on what was right and wrong, perserverence & utmost sensitivity to the trauma of saras which actually brought saras back...
..sadly that kumud has been murdered and a new one resurrected as yet another dim-witted, self sacrificing, cry baby, wussy bimbo bahu at the VC Mental Asylum cum Dharamshala.
The latest ploy of gumaan is moronic and irrelevant from SM's perspective. She treats the doll as saras, but in the same breath calls him chandra. In spite of being badly retarded she talks of marriage and even force him into it! Shoddy and stereotypical characterization. In the same manner arti was initially shown to be helpless, vulnerable and pushed into doing this, but now her portrayal lacks any sense of guilt and behaves like proxy of kalika. The current writers never pay attention to characters' consistency and also can not conceive grey characters.
Gumaan...do you want to kill saras & kumud or do you want saras to only seperate from kumud? Please make up your mind.
Here I would like to draw parallel with the fake amnesia track. The mockery of sensitive and serious issues still continues in the show. Both amnesia and mental trauma are matters of grave concern. The cvs handled it with utmost insensitivity that led to mishandling both saras character and the truth and honesty in samud relationship. The basic criteria that people facing these problems primarily need professional help with able assistance from family was neglected. Now the story repeats itself, but the issue being mental illness and kumud, the victim. In both tracks saras, a learned and solicitous person remains ignorant and foolhardy. Both the premise are faulty and don't make any sense from both of their (s & k) perspective. The sensitive and alarming issues have been trivialised. There saras faking memory loss as a solution to kumud's trauma is beyond one's comprehension. Here even worse, no appropriate professional treatment and no sensible efforts from family. When saras resorted to dishonest ways to manipulate kumud under the guise of help and love his integrity, love, respect and commitment in their relationship went for a toss. Here largely kumud who is devoid of rational thinking aggravates the situation and doesn't value saras's feelings and their relationship and saras too doesn't stand up for his wife and marriage. In both cases cvs demean the very nature of samud relationship.
Agree...If we compare the maturity in depiction of saras trauma in the beginning of the show and the tortuous journey he had to undertake before he fully recovered (including the relapse of an almost cured saras when he refused to marry kumud) ...to this utter trivialization, the conclusion is that the CVs are lazy and resorting to a formula tool-kit...simple cut paste is more efficient and you can go home early to party on the easy weasy paycheck you earned...The irony is they might actually be patting themselves on the back thinking what a super comic relief was provided by the amnesia track!
This track too will come to an end at jetspeed. After arti gets caught, bringing back LN should be the next right move since he may play a major role in SM's recuperation. Their confrontations, emotional intimacy, mutual confessions and understanding could be dealt with along with a liberal dose of samud and dansum scenes and a little dose of gumaan's slapstick comedy (until her chapter closes). Anyways don't intend to watch the rest of the saas-bahu clash till the next twist.
My take is that this is another formula to tie up the loose ends before the end...part 1 of this farce will go on for the next 10 days...kumud will have OTT crying heaves, will 'self sacrifice', saras will 'self sacrifice', Mommy will continue to be bonkers, Arti will start lusting after saras (more on this later)...amd marriage will almost go through...typically without anyone informing LN as usual..
in part 2...around the time of the marriage, LN will pop up, seeing this blast from the past mommy's brain will get reset and she will suddenly remember everything...then she will remember kumud from her childhood, DB will get her childhood BFF back, both will hold hands and go garba style...then DB will tell her about saras - kumud...
in part 3... Gumaan will get another deja vu...now:
1) arti might see the true love of saras-kumud and may stop lusting for saras..in which case she will out gumaan and become the self-sacrificing vamp tutned saint...LN & Mommy will then blast Gumaan out of RN and
1.1) whole family will move to Dubai or
1.2) LN will move lock stock and barrel to RN
2) arti might see the true love of saras-kumud and may stop lusting for saras..and she will seek their forgiveness and indicate her financial problems due to which she sided with Gumaan...in any case she will out gumaan and become the self-sacrificing vamp turned saint...LN & Mommy will then blast Gumaan out of RN and
2.1) whole family will move to Dubai or
2.2) LN will move lock stock and barrel to RN
3) arti might see the true love of saras-kumud and may stop lusting for saras..Gumaan will get desperate and now shift from seperating saras - kumud objective to kill saras - kumud objective...
Arti will kill Gumaan and then seek their forgiveness and indicate her financial problems due to which she sided with Gumaan... LN & Mommy will forgive and take care of her problems...if there is a child involved,,, VC will say I have rooms available and
3.1) whole family will move to Dubai and Arti's child will be in RN or
3.2) whole family will move to Dubai and Arti's child will be in Dubai or
3.3) LN will move lock stock and barrel to RN and Mommy will make up for the missing 20 years by grooming Arti's child to become a junior saras or kumud (depending if its a he or she).
4) arti might decide that lust feels way way better and is more fun than all this namby pamby love bove thingy...she's seen saras-kumud and is sure she will be much better with saras in this dept than kumud can ever be...so saras is what she wants and she will warn Gumaan...Gumaan will get desperate and now again shift her life's objective from seperating saras - kumud to kill saras - kumud...
But in the end someone will kill Gumaan...
4.1) Mommy might do the honors and go back to her cell...she's had enough of the VC mad house and wants to go back to the sane confines of her old asylum...remaining family will move to Dubai or
4.2) LN might do the honors and tell Mommy this is his repentence...he wasn't around her and Saras all this time anyway (first because of estranged relationships, then he was sleeping in coma and later no one considered him a factor anyway e.g. danny's wedding, kabir's wedding, saras first second wedding with kumud and lastly saras second second planned wedding with this Arti chick)...so he's cool with the whole thing...He will be very Zen about it...like The Great Crime Master GoGo.."Aaya Hoon Kuch Toh Loot Ke Jaoonga" types..and then remaining family will move to Dubai or
4.3) Ditto as 4.2 but remaining family will stay in RN
4.4) DB might get into a cat fight and kill Gumaan...beause she can't stand anyone trying to harm her beta saras...and LN & Mommy will move to Dubai or
4.5) DB might get into a cat fight and kill Gumaan...beause she can't stand anyone trying to harm her beta saras...and LN & Mommy will move to RN
4.6) Gumaan & Arti will kill themselves because they cant stand the crappy lori being sung by Mommy...they will still die happy knowing the Saras will have to listen to that crappy lori all his life...and Saras children too...That is the best revenge she would have wished for...and a life well spent...
See...this formula stuff is easy!!!
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