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Posted: 11 years ago
#51
Arshicsji, thanks for the bytes. I caught all the episodes in one go mainly to get a glimpse of the family reunion. But firstly I'd like to scream why the Howard chandra never seeks the help of expert medical care or professional legal help when it is most needed. Alas, what a contrast in execution between saras encounter and that of the family with SM. While the former brought the intensity on to the screen the latter set in the tedium. The difference was the striking performances of the leads apart from the build-up to the scenario and the intense atmosphere. At the haveli all went awry due to samud's tactless handling, desais's inept and puzzled act kabir's 'at a loss' etc. In fact this reunion was given more time and space than the previous one. Even then the commitment of the actors and the execution had taken a severe beating. Mainly saras's performance didn't not even reach out to me due to the separate frame and was out of sync. (Frankly to me he appeared like a ringmaster who managed the desais circus and guided them all from a distance). Jen's performance has mostly been sketchy and her expressions a mismatch in the solo shots. Why always there is huge coordination problems concerning the leads? A surfeit of BDs and solo shots of leads largely diminish the effect of the crucial scenes. The funniest part is that the entire desais assemble in SM's room and give those distorted expressions while s & k standing in separate frames as astral bodies who attain fulfilment on hearing the lori or as sorrowful 'spirit' who watch the ott SM helplessly, from another plane.

Many big loopholes like why samud didn't give clear and prior information about SM's condition? Why desais are insensitive and unconscious of her state and go on treating her normally? When SM is totally lost in the past how come she feels an affinity and forms a relationship only with saras? How can the nurse subvert the mind of SM and exert a strong -ve influence within a very short span of time? When she can achieve this the family too can accomplish the task of restoring SM to her senses with their understanding, profuse love and support and more importantly with therapy and counselling. SM's anti-kumud tirade is an overdone show and unconvincing. In this whole thing the attention to detail was quite imprecise.

Whatever may be the theme it finally boils down to samud separation and kumud character butchery. Her constant crybaby avatar is irksome and unimpactful. She must be sensible, strong-willed and supportive of saras at least in this mission. But no, it seems it might be another recycle, rinse and repeat of kumud 'phenomenon'. The real concern is that the talented actress is being heavily typecast for a long period of time.

The latest ploy of gumaan is moronic and irrelevant from SM's perspective. She treats the doll as saras, but in the same breath calls him chandra. In spite of being badly retarded she talks of marriage and even force him into it! Shoddy and stereotypical characterization. In the same manner arti was initially shown to be helpless, vulnerable and pushed into doing this, but now her portrayal lacks any sense of guilt and behaves like proxy of kalika. The current writers never pay attention to characters' consistency and also can not conceive grey characters.

Here I would like to draw parallel with the fake amnesia track. The mockery of sensitive and serious issues still continues in the show. Both amnesia and mental trauma are matters of grave concern. The cvs handled it with utmost insensitivity that led to mishandling both saras character and the truth and honesty in samud relationship. The basic criteria that people facing these problems primarily need professional help with able assistance from family was neglected. Now the story repeats itself, but the issue being mental illness and kumud, the victim. In both tracks saras, a learned and solicitous person remains ignorant and foolhardy. Both the premise are faulty and don't make any sense from both of their (s & k) perspective. The sensitive and alarming issues have been trivialised. There saras faking memory loss as a solution to kumud's trauma is beyond one's comprehension. Here even worse, no appropriate professional treatment and no sensible efforts from family. When saras resorted to dishonest ways to manipulate kumud under the guise of help and love his integrity, love, respect and commitment in their relationship went for a toss. Here largely kumud who is devoid of rational thinking aggravates the situation and doesn't value saras's feelings and their relationship and saras too doesn't stand up for his wife and marriage. In both cases cvs demean the very nature of samud relationship.

This track too will come to an end at jetspeed. After arti gets caught, bringing back LN should be the next right move since he may play a major role in SM's recuperation. Their confrontations, emotional intimacy, mutual confessions and understanding could be dealt with along with a liberal dose of samud and dansum scenes and a little dose of gumaan's slapstick comedy (until her chapter closes). Anyways don't intend to watch the rest of the saas-bahu clash till the next twist.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: pasumarthisa

Ab romance tho nahin milega. We begged but didn't get any. Not even in words n expressions.

So how abt giving a maha twist. Kumud promises but she is found pregnant the very next day.


I definitely agree with you. They should bring up that topic and could have Kumud being stressed and how the baby could be in risk. It would be a good idea.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: KK84



Yeah read on twitter that Kumud let arti put med on saras? Seriously I honestly am foolish thinking this time they will be diff! Ok kusum was ur sis who is supposedly a part of u but this Aarti is a nobody! writers clearly have lost the plot.


That's because Arti is a nurse, so I guess Kumud let her, but once again, Kumud has already gone on her Meri galti hai trip and is not questioning how did the candle fly across the room, and burn that doll on the bed?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: pasumarthisa

Ab romance tho nahin milega. We begged but didn't get any. Not even in words n expressions.

So how abt giving a maha twist. Kumud promises but she is found pregnant the very next day.


But Santhi, pregnancy also means that romance hua hoga, I think the show wants to avoid even the suggestion of any romantic relationship.

Pregnancy will happen when for the sake of parivar, or to save Saras's life Kumud is majboor and has to do the balidan of getting pregnant.


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Posted: 11 years ago
#55

Originally posted by: -R-R-R-

Kyaa din aa gaye hai... Creativity ki kisiko qadr hi nahi... Wahaa RR me kyaa intensity hai... Emotions me kyaa gehraai hai... Harr roz kyaa dialogues hote hai... Acting... 👏 Harr din ek se badh kar ek episodes CVs hume de rahe hai aur rangeelaa uss show ko band karnaa chaahtaa hai! Kyu? Kyonki humaare heroine ki shaadi hero se hi ho rahi hai... Kisi aur se nahi! 🤣 Kyonki humaare hero-heroine ke bich MUsss nahi hote... Isiliye talaaq nahi hotaa... 🤣 kyonki humaari heroine tyaag ki devi nahi hai! 🤣 Pyaar ke liye wo swaarthi hai...! 😆
Aur yahaa... Koi dekhnaa nahi chaahtaa, phir bhi chal rahaa hai... Bas chal rahaa hai!


Arshi... Kyaa sachme Kumud ne SM se kahaa ke wo Saras ki shaadi karvaayegi???
Sacchi?
Ek baar phir??? 😲

Toh Kumud ki do almost shaadi hui hai... Ek Saras ke saath aur ek Jugnu ke saath... 🤔 Do puri shaadi... Ek Pramaad aur ek Saras... 🤔
Saras ki do almost shaadi hui hai... Ek Kumud ke saath aur ek Kusum ke saath... 🤔 Aur ek puri shaadi... Kumud ke saath... Toh ab ki shaadi kyaa hogi? 🤔



Ok... Ganpati Baappaa Moryaa!!! 😎



-Rahul



Rahul, sahi kaha, agar app ki heroine roti nahin hai, balidan nahi karti, usko ma bapu, padosi, billi, se zyada apne pati se romance karna achcha lagta hai, toh aise shows nahi chal sakte.

Abhi dekho, Pehle Kumud ne bapu ki izzat ke liye Saras ka wait nahi kiya aur shadi kar li

Phir pati ke liye Saras ka shradh kiya

Phir sasu ma ki khatir pramaad ko divorce nahi diya

Phir behen ke liye Saras ko chor diya

Phir sasu ma ke secret ke liye Saras ko chor ke bhaag gayi

Phir London mein bhaag gayi

Phir padosi ke liye Saras se ladai ki

Ab Pagal ma ke liye Saras ko chor degi


Kitni sanskari prem karne wali patni hai

Aise banti hai TRP, aur aise chalte hain show


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Posted: 11 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: Arshics


But Santhi, pregnancy also means that romance hua hoga, I think the show wants to avoid even the suggestion of any romantic relationship.

Pregnancy will happen when for the sake of parivar, or to save Saras's life Kumud is majboor and has to do the balidan of getting pregnant.



To save saras's life and kumud is majboor to do the balidan of getting pregnant??? Hehe.

Chodo na arshi. Yaar baat baat pe mere khwabon pe paani daalti ho aap.

Uss 1st anniversary par kuch tho romance etc. hua hoga.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: lal04

Arshicsji, thanks for the bytes. I caught all the episodes in one go mainly to get a glimpse of the family reunion. But firstly I'd like to scream why the Howard chandra never seeks the help of expert medical care or professional legal help when it is most needed. Alas, what a contrast in execution between saras encounter and that of the family with SM. While the former brought the intensity on to the screen the latter set in the tedium. The difference was the striking performances of the leads apart from the build-up to the scenario and the intense atmosphere. At the haveli all went awry due to samud's tactless handling, desais's inept and puzzled act kabir's 'at a loss' etc. In fact this reunion was given more time and space than the previous one. Even then the commitment of the actors and the execution had taken a severe beating. Mainly saras's performance didn't not even reach out to me due to the separate frame and was out of sync. (Frankly to me he appeared like a ringmaster who managed the desais circus and guided them all from a distance). Jen's performance has mostly been sketchy and her expressions a mismatch in the solo shots. Why always there is huge coordination problems concerning the leads? A surfeit of BDs and solo shots of leads largely diminish the effect of the crucial scenes. The funniest part is that the entire desais assemble in SM's room and give those distorted expressions while s & k standing in separate frames as astral bodies who attain fulfilment on hearing the lori or as sorrowful 'spirit' who watch the ott SM helplessly, from another plane.

Many big loopholes like why samud didn't give clear and prior information about SM's condition? Why desais are insensitive and unconscious of her state and go on treating her normally? When SM is totally lost in the past how come she feels an affinity and forms a relationship only with saras? How can the nurse subvert the mind of SM and exert a strong -ve influence within a very short span of time? When she can achieve this the family too can accomplish the task of restoring SM to her senses with their understanding, profuse love and support and more importantly with therapy and counselling. SM's anti-kumud tirade is an overdone show and unconvincing. In this whole thing the attention to detail was quite imprecise.

Whatever may be the theme it finally boils down to samud separation and kumud character butchery. Her constant crybaby avatar is irksome and unimpactful. She must be sensible, strong-willed and supportive of saras at least in this mission. But no, it seems it might be another recycle, rinse and repeat of kumud 'phenomenon'. The real concern is that the talented actress is being heavily typecast for a long period of time.

The latest ploy of gumaan is moronic and irrelevant from SM's perspective. She treats the doll as saras, but in the same breath calls him chandra. In spite of being badly retarded she talks of marriage and even force him into it! Shoddy and stereotypical characterization. In the same manner arti was initially shown to be helpless, vulnerable and pushed into doing this, but now her portrayal lacks any sense of guilt and behaves like proxy of kalika. The current writers never pay attention to characters' consistency and also can not conceive grey characters.

Here I would like to draw parallel with the fake amnesia track. The mockery of sensitive and serious issues still continues in the show. Both amnesia and mental trauma are matters of grave concern. The cvs handled it with utmost insensitivity that led to mishandling both saras character and the truth and honesty in samud relationship. The basic criteria that people facing these problems primarily need professional help with able assistance from family was neglected. Now the story repeats itself, but the issue being mental illness and kumud, the victim. In both tracks saras, a learned and solicitous person remains ignorant and foolhardy. Both the premise are faulty and don't make any sense from both of their (s & k) perspective. The sensitive and alarming issues have been trivialised. There saras faking memory loss as a solution to kumud's trauma is beyond one's comprehension. Here even worse, no appropriate professional treatment and no sensible efforts from family. When saras resorted to dishonest ways to manipulate kumud under the guise of help and love his integrity, love, respect and commitment in their relationship went for a toss. Here largely kumud who is devoid of rational thinking aggravates the situation and doesn't value saras's feelings and their relationship and saras too doesn't stand up for his wife and marriage. In both cases cvs demean the very nature of samud relationship.

This track too will come to an end at jetspeed. After arti gets caught, bringing back LN should be the next right move since he may play a major role in SM's recuperation. Their confrontations, emotional intimacy, mutual confessions and understanding could be dealt with along with a liberal dose of samud and dansum scenes and a little dose of gumaan's slapstick comedy (until her chapter closes). Anyways don't intend to watch the rest of the saas-bahu clash till the next twist.


Lal04, wow, once again a wonderful post from you. You really have a knack of saying exactly what is wrong with this whole SM scenario.

The parts in bold very very clearly highlight the severe flaws in this track.

Thank you again, your post once again reminded me of ivy and her "essays".
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Posted: 11 years ago
#58

Originally posted by: pasumarthisa


To save saras's life and kumud is majboor to do the balidan of getting pregnant??? Hehe.

Chodo na arshi. Yaar baat baat pe mere khwabon pe paani daalti ho aap.

Uss 1st anniversary par kuch tho romance etc. hua hoga.


😆 Santhi, main kahan khwab on pe paani dalti hoon, khwab on pe paani toh woh bedroom scene ne daala, jab Kumud North Pole pe aur Saras South Pole pe ja ke so gaya !
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Posted: 11 years ago
#59
Sab ko Ganesh Chaturthi ki haardik shubh kaamnayein.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#60

Originally posted by: Arshics


That's because Arti is a nurse, so I guess Kumud let her, but once again, Kumud has already gone on her Meri galti hai trip and is not questioning how did the candle fly across the room, and burn that doll on the bed?


And not one soul questioned how that knife got into SM's bedside table?????!!!! Kumud actually saw the nurse carrying the fruit and knife, so some alarm bells shd have been ringing, no???

LEKIN...
Vidyachatur ki haveli mein zaroor brain-numbing chemicals phailee huyee hai... 😒

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