Who Do you Support? Zain or Aliyah or Both?

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Posted: 11 years ago
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This week was full of bombs . From Monday to Friday we saw tid bits of arguments in ZaYa and makeups between them. However we all are agreeing and disagreeing about who was right and who was wrong. Some say Zain is completely right and some say Aliyah is completely right than we have this minority stating both were right in their perspectives.

Aliyah: It all began when Aliyah brought in Grumpy aka Rehans father to treat Usman. She brought him for she had witnessed a person who was in the same health state currently of Usman's but now is walking and talking normally thus: gained hope that if doctor works his magic on Usman too, in no time Usman will be alive and kicking. Especially since Aliyah was at the dargah, praying to God, where she met and got to know about the doctor and his miracles, saw it as a sending/blessing/message from God that this doctor is the one. However when she introduced "her" doctor to everyone she was insulted along with the doctor;therefore, kicked out. When she seeked Zain's support, otherwise happened for he stated that his mother was right.

Next we see her bring back the medicine and feed it to Usman regardless of being warned.

Shortly afterwards, Zain has picked out an outfit for to which she tells him that she likes the other one better. NOTE: Aliyah never said anything about prices here.

Yesterdays episode, she is acknowledged about Gauhar's baby's father who is none other than her BIL. Now this shocked her, she got to know last minute, the minute when her sister was about to put that ring on her fiances hang and make it official; so the first thing she did was yell stop, this engagement cant happen. In a way she did believe Gauhar for what if she was saying the right thing her sisters life would be ruined.

Than when Zain questions her to why she would believe Gauhar outta all the people she tells him yes I do believe her for its a question of her sisters future, and tells Zain to stay quiet.

Zain: When Aliyah brought in "her" doctor for Usmans treatment and his mother was like, of course you are just going to stand there and nod to everything your wife says; so what he does is walks forward and tells Aliyah that he thinks his mother is right, we should allow the Spanish guy to treat Dad.

Next, he goes to Aliyah to tell her that Suraiya is Usmans wife, Shes the one who is rightful to choose who will treat Usman and how. Second that she never told him about Aliyah bringing in the doctor and tells her that she should have.

Than came the dress incident, to which he chose a dress for her, to which Aliyah refuses and says she wants this one; he stomps off and says its just for the cheapness. He was furious for he thought Aliyah sees whats cheap and whats not but she does not see her husband's love behind it.

Yesterdays episode, when he spoke up to what Aliyah asking how she even believes Gauhar when she was the one who yelled at her at Holi. When he is told to stay quiet by Aliyah he gets upset but does not let the emotions get to him and goes like Ayat is more than a sister for me but here I am standing for my brother, I will not allow anything wrong to happen to him.

Some believe that Zain was right to side Suraiya as Aliyah was the one herself who stated that his mother will always come first for him so she has no right to walk off pissed and upset when Zain does not side her. Not just that but Aliyah should have never refused for the dress in the first place and she needs to get over her rich-cheap concept as well.
Also the same ones believe that what Aliyah did today was wrong, impulsive behavior and she should have acknowledged Zain about it first.

On the other hand, some believe that Zain was wrong in supporting Suraiya, and he was wrong in stomping off for the dress.

Also if Aliyah isnt allowed to speak in Abdullah matters, than why is Zain allowed to speak in Haiders? If he was told to shut up today by Aliyah why is it a big issue?

IF Aliyah did create a scene at the last minute was cause she had no choice?

Here is what everyone has to say about all this anarchy? I wanna know how many think Aliyah was right or just Zain was right or they both were wrong and right? and Why?

My question to you guys what if Gauhar had said that the child is Zains? Would she ask for divorce and tell Zain to marry Gauhar? I am not siding anyone but asking a simple question than what?

Also that this is a character growth of Aliyahs from being impulsive to realizing her mistakes?


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Posted: 11 years ago
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I can't choose either one of them so I'm gonna go with both! They're both right and wrong...it all depends on a person's perspective.

Let's start with Aaliya:
She's not wrong in wanting the Unani doctor to treat Usman, mainly because she saw a medical miracle right in front of her and that too in a Dargah. Like you said, she probably saw this as a sign and wanted the best for her Mamu. No problem here.

What did cause a little tiff was her bringing the doctor along unannounced to treat Usman without even telling Zain. I guess in her eagerness to get him treated, she forgot to inform anybody about Grumpy. Here, we can catch a glimpse of that impulsive nature of hers. But still, not potentially problematic...yet.

Her giving Usman the medicine secretly was WRONG and SENSELESS in every way! I don't understand what she was thinking then. Different medicines can do more harm than good...why didn't she think of that?? What's worse, she went behind Zain's back specifically after he told her to give the other doctor a chance, hid what she was doing, broke her promise to him (though she acknowledged this, it still wasn't right) and went back on her words too.

Like that isn't bad enough, she hides another thing from Zain; Gauhar's pregnancy. But that's okay, it isn't really her story to tell, right?

Again, like you said, Aaliya never said anything about a price...all she said was that she liked the other dress better. In fact, Zain was the one who mentioned the price here and not just once. I didn't think there was anything wrong from her part.

Now coming to the tamasha she created at the engagement...well, she's wrong and right. Wrong because she blurted everything out in front of everybody, basically insulted Zain, Aayat and Rizwan, and tried to make a decision without telling her elders. Apart from that, she hurt Zain with her hasty words, but I don't think she did that on purpose so she'll definitely apologize. I think people blew this scene up a little bit...they seemed to have forgotten that Aaliya was emotional and said something in the heat of the moment. Honestly, who doesn't do that?

But she's right too because she was just trying to protect her baby sister. She didn't want to take the chance of Aayat ending up with Rizwan when he has a paternity claim hanging over his head. Plus, she got to know like a second before so she did the first thing she could think of in the moment. Her thinking was clouded over by protectiveness. After all, she did say IF Rizwan was responsible.

Her intentions were pure, but her treatment of the situation was horrible. She's going to go through a tough time because of her own actions, but she'll learn a lesson which she isn't going to forget so easily.

With Zain:
Alright honestly, I get it; his dad's paralyzed in bed, a ton of responsibility has been thrust on him, he's a sandwich between his mom and his wife so the pressure's rocketed to sky levels. But would it kill him to say a few words in her defense too? Fine, he agreed with his mom about the doctor but couldn't he say anything to protect Aaliya too? He knows his wife, he knows that she was just trying to help, yet he still stood there like a statue when Suraiya was insulting her...again.

I mentioned before that Aaliya seemed to be going against her words, but here, so is he in a way. His line about pointing fingers at Aaliya's character...well, his own mother was doing it since forever! He was wrong about staying silent here, but right about siding with his mom about the doctor issue. It would have been great if he said a few words here...

The dress scene...um, I think he overreacted a little bit. Sure, you want to buy something for your wife, but she still has a say in choosing the outfit, right? All she said was that she preferred the other dress and he pretty much blew up. I didn't expect that note thing either but well, at least he did his frustrations ki ulti on paper and not on Aaliya...

Coming to his part in the engagement fiasco, he's right; how can Aaliya trust the same girl that tried to ruin her life before? For all we know, she could be lying! That was a very valid question. You can tell that he was really hurt by Aaliya's words, but he chose to brush it off and took a stand too. Here, he's completely right and justified.

Yep, I feel like this is to show Aaliya's character growth with her realizing and repenting for her actions.

Overall, I think both Zain and Aaliya are right and wrong as well. Neither of them are perfect so they both still have a long way to go!
Edited by musicxolover - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Erm.. Honestly I support both..
At times both are right and both are wrong..
Depending on the circumstances...
But I'm glad there's a contrast between the two..
Both have different values and rules that they follow
When about others in their lives ect
But can fight the world when it's about their love!
That's when they fight together..

The reason why I love this show is that
It relates to my family.. & my parents! Lol.. & I'm in the middle and explain
Who's right and who's wrong 😆
Edited by .x-bumblebee-x. - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Awesome post 👏👏 Its been ages since I have written anything longer here so now u gotta bare with me 😆Here I am not only gonna talk about this week. Phew that is really long. If u r not in mood start reading after these two paragraphs. So here I go 😕

Honestly both Zain and Aliya are right and wrong. Let's analyze Zain first. There are two major incidents where I felt Zain is not keeping up with the promises he once made with Aliya. He once told Aliya that jab kisi ke character par ungli uthayi jaye toh baat sirf galat fehmi ki nahi rehti (sth like that). Now when Zubair said all that crap to Aliya and Kahtija bi humiliated Aliya to such a high extent Zain never spoke. Yes, I haven't forgotten these because I still want my answers. Then he comes up with reason everything is not black and white to which I agree but the thing that was hard to digest was a guy who can fight with his mom for his wife when his dad's life was in danger and who can go to the extent of leaving his house never uttered a word when Aliya was blamed for nothing. Here I find a huge flaw in Zain's character. Then comes that unani doctor incident honestly if I was Zain I would have chosen that foreign doctor and it sounds valid. The fact that Zain didn't say anything to support Aliya when she was being humiliated made me kinda mad. I mean you can still support a person while not supporting their opinions. However, Zain was right his mother has the authority over Usman.

Aliya: Aliya has always been impulsive. She does whatever she feels is appropriate. Zubair being the greatest example. Though being aware of the fact that her so called friendship has never given any happiness to her she still goes ahead with it by asking him to help her every single time when she have other helping hands, which can help her in better way. After Zubair track she realizes that you can't really trust anyone because their niyat' can change at any moment. Does she realize that now ? Does she realize that Gauhar's niyat was always bad Aliya fails to understand that if Zain is supporting Suri, there is a reason and there is no one is the show who loves Uman more than Zain. So if Zain is leaving everything on Suri why can't she. I know she is convinced by Grumpy but there is always appropriate time for everything. Here Aliya is at fault. Without telling Zain or thinking about consequences that medicines can have on Usman's health, Aliya proceeds with it. Then comes this Gauhar incident. Its okay if she didn't tell Zain about this because she didn't have time. ATM she felt like her sister's life is getting ruined and she has to take action right now. This is the moment when no one really thinks about if they are making tamasha of their family, they just see that that life of their loved one is getting ruined. But then again Aliya didn't hear both parts of the story and made tamasha and her fault lies here. Without any evidence and being aware of the fact what Gauhar wanted on Holi, she jumps to a conclusion that Rizwan is the culprit.

Now coming to who is right and wrong ? BOTH because both have different perspectives.

Now the people who believe that Zain's interference in today's episode was fair I both agree and disagree. If we see even Aliya doesn't have the right to break her sis's engagement no one does. Aayat is an adult, she can do whatever she wants. But here as Zain said that Suri has authority over Usman, in this case Haiders do over Aayat. Why Zain couldn't speak ? If Zain could speak in Rocky's incident why not now? Did Zain ever say to Aliya that dude this is my dad's life so stay away. Never !! Again people think from different perspectives but I would say that the scenarios are totally different. When people marry each other, they not only marry with each other but their families as well. Here Zain is not only cuzn of Aayat, he is daamad of Haiders and friend of Rizwan so he definitely had the right. Except Surraiya no one has ever told ALiya to shut up in Abdullha's affairs.

Exactly What the hell if Gauhar said it was Zain's child. She would have heard both sides na so why she didn't do now.

So according to me the major flaw in Aliya's charcter which can become the reason of Zaya separation is she jumps to conclusions very easily without hearing the other sides. Sometimes its hard to digest that this is the same girl who once told Zain that she won't go against him. (Now here I don't mean she always supports Zain but she should at least consider what he says.)

Though I feel bad for Aliya needs but she needs a reality check and I am hoping she learns from her mistakes.



Edited by AashimaK - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Res..it all boils down to not completely black and not completely white...will put forth my thoughts later! Great post Zainab! I am NOT liking the Zain Vs Aaliya war that's currently going around!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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neither are wrong 2bh, but i'd support zain a little more becos I feel aliya's way of handling the two situations is seriously flawed...aaliya's intentions are noble...whether it was to cure usman or to stop ayat's engagement, the intentions were not wrong, but its the way she went about handling the situation in both cases which was wrong... as they say sirf manzil ka sahi hona zaroori nahi hota, the path we take to reach our destination also has to be right/correct and with aaliya her path is wrong... secretly feeding usman unani doctor's medicines is so wrong esp when he's already going through treatment 4rm US doctor... there could be side effects but she's not thought it through, it would have been better if she let suraiya try and then upon suraiya's failure spoken again abt the unani doctor, then maybe even zain would have supported her, but this secret treatment is just so wrong.
and then with rizwan-gauhar-ayat case, her intention was to save her sister's life, but the way she went about handling the situation was again VERY WRONG. one can't make such a big accusation on someone without any proof and just on face value.
zain was right in usman and aayat case, but the dress thing, no offence but a complete over-reaction from zain's end... so aliya refused a dress becos she preferred another which happened to be less pricey is ONLY becos aliya prefers cheap stuff and doesn't care about her husband's feelings?? that's jus ridiculous... yes aliya is zain's wife and she should accept gifts from him etc, but I don't see the problem if she wants to wear a dress of HER OWN choice at HER OWN sister's engagement, whats wrong with tht? he may be her husband but it doesn't mean she'll always have to dress according to his liking, she does have her own choice and liking too...
Edited by Yuvika_15 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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RES! this has got to be the toughest decision of my life!😲

okay they're both right and wrong in their places.
So many things have happened and honestly I do not want to go over it as it's so depressing
I will talk only about today's episode.

Aliya was right in stopping the engagement because from a big sister's perspective I would have done the same thing. Whether I have proof or not that the baby is truly that of my future BIL doesn't matter..at that moment all one would think is to stop the engagement. (Shazia and Suri know that very well which is why they made this plan)

BUT Aliya shouldn't have done all that tamash in front of everyone. She should've acted more mature and just kindly ask the family to gather somewhere else in another room as she has something important to discuss. I did not like that fact that she asked Zain to stay out of it...I mean sometimes you want to include him in and you want him to take the decision for everything and now you go and tell him to stay out of it as it HER sister's life? that's wasn't good.

Zain on the other hand...ughh he's put into another tight spot..
As his best friend, it makes sense that he would stand up for Rizwan but I think in this situation it would be in everyone's best interest to just get a DNA test done!
Let's see whether the child is truly Rizwan's or not then make a decision.

So I'm not taking anyone's side in this. As both of have made mistakes.
I personally think that all this chaos is happening to show us the importance of Usman in this family and how far Zain and Aliya still has to become mature individuals!

Edited by -Saheba- - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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That's tough one...But stil il try to explain what I feel.
Zain was right in supporting his mom regarding the doctor issue...but he was wrong to just stand there while his mother went on insulting Aliya he did the same when that Khadija bi was insulting and cursing Aliya last week.
Aliya was right to stop the engagement but the way she did it was wrong.I feel she could have stopped the engagement and spoke to her family in private rather than make big tamasha of her family in front of outsiders.And aliya didn't demand Rizwan to marry Gauhar she says If Rizwan is the father then he should marry Gauhar not Ayat.
I don't think it's fair that Rizwan should marry Gauhar becuz what ever happened was Gauhars doing but I don't think Rizwan and Ayat should get engaged in this situation.
This isn't just about Rizwan Ayat and Gauhar theres a child involved in it which makes thing very complicated.
now Ayat wants to overlook this fact that Rizwan is the father of Gauhars child becourse she doesn't understand the effect it will have on her life in the future when Rizwan will want to keep in touch with his child.

I don't support Aliya giving Mamu the medication secretly.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Well,both are right yet wrong,
I love both zain and aliya,i really dont like this zain VS aliya war,
Aliya in her place is right,if someone comes up to me and tells me tht my sisters to be fiancee is father of her child i might react the same way,rizwan was about to exchange the ring hence aliya had a moment to react,afterall her sisters life was at stake.the way she stopped zain ws a little rude but she was tensed at that time,and i m pretty sure tht she will make up to him.
Though i dont support her in hidding the medicine thing.it cud land her in trouble.

Zain on the other hand is supporting his brother like friend,he is doing what he believes is right.And he shud also think that just as he said that suraiya has more right to decide about usmans treatment simillarly aliya has more right over ayaats decision.
At times he has supported his mom openly n aliya never said anything.the nasty love note thing was a little kiddish but thats bcz he luvs her too much.
I really didnt liked the way he kept quiet when khadija bi insulted aliya,dude she is ur wife!

At the end of the day both hv their own flaws and qualities,but i want them to sort everything together,no Rehaan-Man plz


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Beautiful Post Zainab :)
I support both Aaliya and Zain because Zain is right in his place as he always justifies his actions which are absolutely right in my POV. Aaliya has the right intentions but one thing I don't support her for is that she is not trusting Zain now a days because she is not sharing stuff with him which can cause the rift , like today she slipped out "her sister" Zain was very hurt but I loved the fact that he told if you want me to stay out of your sister's matter than fine I will but I am supporting my friend. Aaliya is going to realise mistake of not just coming a point straight away I mean it's her character of confronting people right at that moment which doesn't turn out well so yeah :)

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