People, please justify your dance forms!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Okay, I have this grouch with almost all Indian dance reality shows - the little strip shows an x dance form and the performers end up doing something else or just freestyle throughout the whole thing. In fact, most of the choreographies are just free style and nothing specific - which is perfectly okay but then it should be called freestyle too. For example - Sophie and Deepak's "samba" which wasn't even in the neighborhood of latin forms because Sophie's hip movements were about as visible as Kristen Stewart's expressions. If you know anything about samba, you would know that hip movements in samba are so distinct they're almost in-your-face (I had the same problem with Salman-Isha last year)

Second, Tushar and Shakti's modern jazz. First of all, no form of jazz allows flexed feet. The moment you flex your feet it becomes strictly modern and nothing else. And if it's modern it does not have splits. So clearly there's a lot of confusion brewing around here.

Hip hop is another loosely used and abused term. Everything from funk to jazz to freestyle is automatically clubbed under hip hop. Hip hop is a very specific dance form that is synonymous with street dancing. It has no strict posture and no rigid vocabulary, but at the same time it's not freestyle because it has it's own distinct swag.

And as I much as I love Shampa as a choreographer, I just have to say that there is no such thing as drunken jazz. It's just jazz.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Looks like the great Remo missed a few things.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Shakti's dance form was Modern Jazz.

As one forum member already said,

Its not easy to try a dance form and justify it 100%.

If everyone could master dance form one by one in a week time for each then everyone will be dancers to perfection easily😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thank you so much for this post.
Another extremely sensible member made a post recently along the lines of how DWTS has simple steps but focuses on technicalities while JDJ creates fusions of things and doesn't get into those technicalities.

Our choreographers need more training themselves when it comes to dance forms that are out of their comfort zone. I feel that most of them just learn some steps and incorporate them in the choreography and bam...there's the salsa with a few hip movements and the hip hop with the locking/popping.

LOL...yes I had never heard of drunken jazz either and thought maybe I was the only one who didn't know of it.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Strange_girl


Shakti's dance form was Modern Jazz.

As one forum member already said,

Its not easy to try a dance form and justify it 100%.

If everyone could master dance form one by one in a week time for each then everyone will be dancers to perfection easily😆


You missed the point. The problem was not in Shakti's performance but the choreography itself. Tushar should have been capable enough to know not to incorporate flexed feet or splits in the choreography.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: U-No-Poo

Okay, I have this grouch with almost all Indian dance reality shows - the little strip shows an x dance form and the performers end up doing something else or just freestyle throughout the whole thing. In fact, most of the choreographies are just free style and nothing specific - which is perfectly okay but then it should be called freestyle too. For example - Sophie and Deepak's "samba" which wasn't even in the neighborhood of latin forms because Sophie's hip movements were about as visible as Kristen Stewart's expressions. If you know anything about samba, you would know that hip movements in samba are so distinct they're almost in-your-face (I had the same problem with Salman-Isha last year)


Second, Tushar and Shakti's modern jazz. First of all, no form of jazz allows flexed feet. The moment you flex your feet it becomes strictly modern and nothing else. And if it's modern it does not have splits. So clearly there's a lot of confusion brewing around here.

Hip hop is another loosely used and abused term. Everything from funk to jazz to freestyle is automatically clubbed under hip hop. Hip hop is a very specific dance form that is synonymous with street dancing. It has no strict posture and no rigid vocabulary, but at the same time it's not freestyle because it has it's own distinct swag.

And as I much as I love Shampa as a choreographer, I just have to say that there is no such thing as drunken jazz. It's just jazz.


I completely agree with your Sophie comment. I don't know what the judges were thinking when they gave her so many good comments. Her hips were not moving at all and I was like omg if Maks was judging then he would have pointed it out. Deepak'a hips were moving the correct way, he should have worked on that with Sophie. The lack of hip movements made me cringe as Latino dance forms are all about hips, footwork and posture.

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