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Posted: 11 years ago

#21

Awesome post, Navin.

But I disagree with you on a few things. Tejawat is behind the stalker is my take. Whether it is his son or someone equally loyal to him remains to be seen. He tried the rough approach so far, it didn't work. Then he tried to use the mother card and use Laila to deliver the message. But that backfired when she decided to deliver Mala instead. So now he will have to be more cunning. He will have people with more brains than Bhima if he ran a smuggling and trafficking outfit for 15 years. So he has the resources and is the only one currently who has a motive to hurt Rudra through Paro. It doesn't help that his wife is currently trying to reconcile with her son against his wishes.

Coming to Mala, this track will not help her at the start as it is suddenly brought to the forefront that she is not just Rudra's estranged mother but also married to Tejawat. For sometime it may even be misunderstood that she is helping her husband by revealing details about her son and his wife. Details that only someone living with them will be able to provide.

So far, everyone in the family is focussing only on her reason for leaving and how much she loves her son. Nobody is talking about what she was doing with Tejawat for years. The adult Rudra was shattered when he found out that his mother was happily married to another man, that too Tejawat. This is another reason why he cannot look her in the eye inspite of all that Paro tries. He is torn between sheltering the woman who raised him and condemning the wife of a terrorist. Especially since Mala is silent and probably ashamed of her choice. She hasn't spoken much about life after leaving the Ranavat haveli. She has revealed that Tejawat was a poet whom she loved but did she not notice what business he was in. She organized the weddings along with him.

This is where Mala will be forced to talk and prove her loyalty. This is why the mother son reconciliation track is still open. She has to step up and help her son protect the one he loves the most. She can no longer piggy back on Paro's efforts and hope they work. She will have reveal all and Rudra will listen for his Paro.

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LadyLaLa

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Posted: 11 years ago

#22

Hey Napster 🤗nice analysis...👏

I am in favour of a threat to Paro's life than all the other plausible paths that the writers could take

the last thing I want to see is Rudra suspecting Paro to be two timing him thus concluding once again that beautiful women are never to be trusted... If that is what happens we would have come a full circle.. I hope CVs don't take this damned route..

what I also don't want to see is the hackneyed theme of a jealousy plot.. Both Paro and Rudra are way past that stage .. they have built a relationship of trus so hopefully the writers won't take

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Navin

@napstermonster

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Posted: 11 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: babyji
Just a thought...someone from the house is definitely involved with this stalker for him to have access to the house whenever he wants to come & do creepy stuff so could Mala be THAT person. Maybe Laila has been used as a pawn by her & Tejawat to get her in the haveli ? Just a thought

Babyji:

You need to do us a favor, quit your job right now, move to India ( if you are not there already) and apply for the position of head CV--because you have a twisted mind, and what you suggest here would be INCREDIBLE. If double-crossing Thakurain (who is even more ruthless than Thakur) turns out to be Mala's role, Sadiya should be on her knees thanking the Acting gods for the part of a lifetime. Sadly, she is too milquetoast and mild to be able to carry off the deception and the underlying rotten-core this twist would entail. I cannot help salivating at this idea, though---this would make for the most fantastic twisted thrilling serial move EVER.

I could go further-- I would actually say, if the CVs wrote Mala this way, it would even help explain away how wooden Sadiya has been in her emotional scenes. I found her dialogue delivery whiny and self-pitying when she is talking about Dilsher's abuse. That was a powerful scene, the setting was perfect. She should have been angry, poignant, even quietly suffering. But in the end, her tears irritated me, and the acting was not charged enough to be a thirteen year long tale of quite awful physical and emotional abuse.

But by now, I am no longer blaming the CVs who actually have written a very nuanced, grey shaded character with lots of scope for Malas role. I think that it is the actress's failing to connect sufficiently with her character. This is not the CV's writing of her. By giving her the Thakur as a man she was already having an affair with BEFORE she left the Haveli--and not a man she ran into later, the CVs have given Mala a very interesting moral layers. The choices Mala has made are realistic, not sati-savitri, and must be challenging to act out.

Think of what Ananya (Mohini) could have done with this dual nature of Mala --and how Sadiya is failing. Mala is already grey, because she had at least an emotional affair with her Thakur poet, if not a physical one until she got thrown out of the Haveli. She did, after all run off to be with him. He didnt find her on the streets, to bring home to his Haveli. It gives Mala layers, and a strong character. That character is completely absent--and Mala is a role which in my opinion Sadiya just does not do justice to.

Also, what lost me was her reaction on the phone with Rudra, when she snatches the phone away from Dilsher to convey the acid throwing news. It was like she was asking Rudra to pick up some milk on his way back from the BSD, as it was very urgent for her to make some kheer ASAP. The panic, the fear or the rage at her daughter Paro being savaged--just NOT there. And contrasted with Asish's powerhouse performance from that phone call till the end of the scene, Mala came off as indifferent to Paro's suffering, the danger, or her son's manic reaction to his wife's pain.

If they explained that by making her (as you say)-- truly, hideously, awesomely evil--I would LOVE that. But they wont, you know. Paro would look like a fool, Rudra would never recover from this betrayal. And Sadiya simply cant act this out for us. Kaash!!

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Navin

@napstermonster

Voyager

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Posted: 11 years ago

#24

Originally posted by: LadyLaLa
Hey Napster 🤗nice analysis...👏

I am in favour of a threat to Paro's life than all the other plausible paths that the writers could take

the last thing I want to see is Rudra suspecting Paro to be two timing him thus concluding once again that beautiful women are never to be trusted... If that is what happens we would have come a full circle.. I hope CVs don't take this damned route..

what I also don't want to see is the hackneyed theme of a jealousy plot.. Both Paro and Rudra are way past that stage .. they have built a relationship of trus so hopefully the writers won't take

Thanks for bringing this up--and I will go ahead and plagiarize from myself-- this is what I wrote in anther thread in response to the worries about the Rudra/Othello track, or the idea of him doubting Paro:

There is almost no reason for us to worry about an upcoming separation track, OR Rudra being jealous of another man. At least not for a while.

Here is why:

He is obsessed with Paro, but he knows (as per his own flashbacks regarding her) that she is almost equally obsessed with him. He can be himself, in all his wounded, desperate, dependent glory because the trust now is absolute. The day he decided she was his, was the day she mattered the most to him. He trusts her as a combination of parent, friend, wife and lover--and that is a potent trust she has done nothing to harm.

Secondly, he is cynical to a fault. Unlike an ASR who inherently mistrusted Khushi because he was always EXPECTING Khushi to be a golddigger,who never bothered to ask her anything,This is a BSD Major who examines people, and seeks evidence as his job. He wont trust just hearsay, or one event.As we see with Kakisa and Rudra's interactions, he is not easily taken in by other people trying to make him jealous, or upset, or angry. He reads people too well, and he knows Paro too well by now to doubt her motives.

And finally--he knows (better than Paro) that someone is out to get her. An acid attack on his wife is not a romantic move by a lover. It is a declaration of war. Paro's tears, her injury and fear is not fake .The doll's broken arm is a threat to them both. The enemy has got inside his Haveli, taunting him, leaving him a note. In the Promo, he is literally close to Paro, tricking her in a BSD uniform into thinking its Rudra. All the signs are signs of real physical danger, not those of an obsessive lover marking his territory on Paro. This is a dangerous man out to harm Paro, not an ex lover who is back to take her away.

He will react throughout this track like a soldier reacting to an enemy, like a man defending his adored wife.

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Aruni.

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Posted: 11 years ago

#25

You know i was fantasizing about this plot a while back, partly inspired by your Jansheem Khan too... A BSD officer, a major or may be higher ranker, who already has a rivalry with Rudra and corrupt. He enters Tejawat's case, steals the case from Rudra (he actually can do this, as Rudra has not made much progress, he has run into many problems about handling the case and principal 2 witnesses are related to him). This guy helps Tejju, and after seeing Paro, wants her too.

Hope this track goes on these lines...

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loveanime

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Posted: 11 years ago

#26

Originally posted by: napstermonster

Babyji:

You need to do us a favor, quit your job right now, move to India ( if you are not there already) and apply for the position of head CV--because you have a twisted mind, and what you suggest here would be INCREDIBLE. If double-crossing Thakurain (who is even more ruthless than Thakur) turns out to be Mala's role, Sadiya should be on her knees thanking the Acting gods for the part of a lifetime. Sadly, she is too milquetoast and mild to be able to carry off the deception and the underlying rotten-core this twist would entail. I cannot help salivating at this idea, though---this would make for the most fantastic twisted thrilling serial move EVER.

I could go further-- I would actually say, if the CVs wrote Mala this way, it would even help explain away how wooden Sadiya has been in her emotional scenes. I found her dialogue delivery whiny and self-pitying when she is talking about Dilsher's abuse. That was a powerful scene, the setting was perfect. She should have been angry, poignant, even quietly suffering. But in the end, her tears irritated me, and the acting was not charged enough to be a thirteen year long tale of quite awful physical and emotional abuse.

But by now, I am no longer blaming the CVs who actually have written a very nuanced, grey shaded character with lots of scope for Malas role. I think that it is the actress's failing to connect sufficiently with her character. This is not the CV's writing of her. By giving her the Thakur as a man she was already having an affair with BEFORE she left the Haveli--and not a man she ran into later, the CVs have given Mala a very interesting moral layers. The choices Mala has made are realistic, not sati-savitri, and must be challenging to act out.

Think of what Ananya (Mohini) could have done with this dual nature of Mala --and how Sadiya is failing. Mala is already grey, because she had at least an emotional affair with her Thakur poet, if not a physical one until she got thrown out of the Haveli. She did, after all run off to be with him. He didnt find her on the streets, to bring home to his Haveli. It gives Mala layers, and a strong character. That character is completely absent--and Mala is a role which in my opinion Sadiya just does not do justice to.

Also, what lost me was her reaction on the phone with Rudra, when she snatches the phone away from Dilsher to convey the acid throwing news. It was like she was asking Rudra to pick up some milk on his way back from the BSD, as it was very urgent for her to make some kheer ASAP. The panic, the fear or the rage at her daughter Paro being savaged--just NOT there. And contrasted with Asish's powerhouse performance from that phone call till the end of the scene, Mala came off as indifferent to Paro's suffering, the danger, or her son's manic reaction to his wife's pain.

If they explained that by making her (as you say)-- truly, hideously, awesomely evil--I would LOVE that. But they wont, you know. Paro would look like a fool, Rudra would never recover from this betrayal. And Sadiya simply cant act this out for us. Kaash!!

If that was intended for Mala THAT WOULD BE BLOODY BRILLIANT. That would explain away so many things. How she can stay married to a man for 15 years and not really know him because she really did know him. How she didn't really try that hard to take Rudra with her because well she is not the person she pretends to be and why would she want him anyways. How she can arrange the weddings of so many girls and not bother about what happens to them because she knew the truth. How she is so emotionless with her son because she honestly doesn't love him like a mother should. How she is not heartbroken about her split from Tejawat, an abused wife falls into another treacherous relationship should be crushed emotionally, no she seems too cool about the whole thing as a matter of fact about her life falling apart almost like why should she be sad about something that she has not lost, she and Tejawat are still a team. Her abusive life with Dilsher was told from her POV, Dilsher reaffirmed that he made mistakes but did he confess to torturing Mala day in and out, a truly abused woman can never be so comfortable with her tormentor. How she escaped so easily from Tejawat, Tejawat did come off looking a maha fool and how easily they stripped the cool Thakur character of any brains, but did they. Paro has to be prove wrong again because whether it is Tejawat or laila or anyone duplicitous she is not capable of making the right call because of who she is and that is her biggest weakness. This reality will not crush Rudra but might be what finally heals him because think about it what is worst your mother loves you but leaves you anyways for another man or that she never did and why be hurt over someone when you were right about them all along, it is the feeling of the unknown that torments you but the absolute truth cruel and gut wrenching with no escape can force you to accept what you have known all along stop you from running, gather all the energy wasted trying to run but channel it for the final fight and yes move on.

Edited by loveanime - 11 years ago

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nancynair

@nancynair

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Posted: 11 years ago

#27

The stalker who threw acid wore the shawl that Rudra had given Parvati when he set her free to return to Birpur

We do not know how she came back that journey was not shown

Could this man have brought her back

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Navya

@Navyya

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Posted: 11 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: napstermonster

Babyji:

You need to do us a favor, quit your job right now, move to India ( if you are not there already) and apply for the position of head CV--because you have a twisted mind, and what you suggest here would be INCREDIBLE. If double-crossing Thakurain (who is even more ruthless than Thakur) turns out to be Mala's role, Sadiya should be on her knees thanking the Acting gods for the part of a lifetime. Sadly, she is too milquetoast and mild to be able to carry off the deception and the underlying rotten-core this twist would entail. I cannot help salivating at this idea, though---this would make for the most fantastic twisted thrilling serial move EVER.

I could go further-- I would actually say, if the CVs wrote Mala this way, it would even help explain away how wooden Sadiya has been in her emotional scenes. I found her dialogue delivery whiny and self-pitying when she is talking about Dilsher's abuse. That was a powerful scene, the setting was perfect. She should have been angry, poignant, even quietly suffering. But in the end, her tears irritated me, and the acting was not charged enough to be a thirteen year long tale of quite awful physical and emotional abuse.

But by now, I am no longer blaming the CVs who actually have written a very nuanced, grey shaded character with lots of scope for Malas role. I think that it is the actress's failing to connect sufficiently with her character. This is not the CV's writing of her. By giving her the Thakur as a man she was already having an affair with BEFORE she left the Haveli--and not a man she ran into later, the CVs have given Mala a very interesting moral layers. The choices Mala has made are realistic, not sati-savitri, and must be challenging to act out.

Think of what Ananya (Mohini) could have done with this dual nature of Mala --and how Sadiya is failing. Mala is already grey, because she had at least an emotional affair with her Thakur poet, if not a physical one until she got thrown out of the Haveli. She did, after all run off to be with him. He didnt find her on the streets, to bring home to his Haveli. It gives Mala layers, and a strong character. That character is completely absent--and Mala is a role which in my opinion Sadiya just does not do justice to.

Also, what lost me was her reaction on the phone with Rudra, when she snatches the phone away from Dilsher to convey the acid throwing news. It was like she was asking Rudra to pick up some milk on his way back from the BSD, as it was very urgent for her to make some kheer ASAP. The panic, the fear or the rage at her daughter Paro being savaged--just NOT there. And contrasted with Asish's powerhouse performance from that phone call till the end of the scene, Mala came off as indifferent to Paro's suffering, the danger, or her son's manic reaction to his wife's pain.

If they explained that by making her (as you say)-- truly, hideously, awesomely evil--I would LOVE that. But they wont, you know. Paro would look like a fool, Rudra would never recover from this betrayal. And Sadiya simply cant act this out for us. Kaash!!

Napster it's always a pleasure, sheer pleasure to read your TAKE on any subject. If they were to go this way then the role reversal ( Paro being devastated with maasa's betrayal & Rudra helping her get out of it ) could be ONE option. Whatever you have written about Mala 's LACK of acting skills are sooo bannng on. Maybe that's the reason I haven't been able to feel ANYTHING for her.

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Sunara

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Posted: 11 years ago

#29

I think logically I am going along with it - the only person who would wanna terrorize Paro and slowly torture and hurt her has to come from her own past and her connection to Varun.

So a brother = a blood brother/or the brotherhood of such terrorist groups. Its possible and logical for them to extract a long drawn out revenge.

Paro is terrified. And she will be terrorized little by little.. day by day.. and here obviously knowing that Rudra being the man who put that bullet on Varun's head, well best to see him being impotent to stop and being helpless probably would feed any sadistic pleasure of such a psychopathic terrorist..

so.. hopefully this will be well executed!

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loveanime

@loveanime

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Posted: 11 years ago

#30

Originally posted by: aruni50218
You know i was fantasizing about this plot a while back, partly inspired by your Jansheem Khan too... A BSD officer, a major or may be higher ranker, who already has a rivalry with Rudra and corrupt. He enters Tejawat's case, steals the case from Rudra (he actually can do this, as Rudra has not made much progress, he has run into many problems about handling the case and principal 2 witnesses are related to him). This guy helps Tejju, and after seeing Paro, wants her too.
Hope this track goes on these lines...

I think that is very realistic. I hope the writers are listening Rudra needs to lose the case. Lets be honest he has been useless so far not to mention conflict of interest. The day he married Paro instead of bringing that social worker track Rudra should have been reprimanded for tainting the start witness. He was warned to make things right not to marry the girl. Now with the whole world knowing that Tejawat's wife is his mother how can he be in charge of this case. That is how this new guy is brought into the story an official hand over, Rudra still keeps his title and job. This will create the perfect angst Rudra will be towering mad but at the same time he will be forced to work with new BSD guy to hand over the evidence, and not to mention Rudra will also be forced to hand over Paro to him for further questioning because she is the star witness. WOW imagine all the drama how will Rudra protect Paro if the new BSD guy is the stalker and in charge of Tejawat Case.

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