Episode 610 Discussion: 26th June 2014, Thursday

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Hav ppl really stpd watchng d shw...EDT is soo vacant...

Coming to the episode...well torture game is on...definitley raja still hav feeling fr madhu...so cnt see her in pain... but no worries bcz agni is on duty and hav takn d role on mthr-in-law wth hr torture tactics...but to b frank i dnt lik tis torture game particularly...shw is abt to wrap up and we dnt have forevr...so close the mysteries and giv some gud dvd scenes as last memories...
Lastly JM if nthng thn plz change ur expression...nw evn ur pain and anguish hav disgust luk...I seriously wsh at all tis end wth a passionate rajbala and we hav a lov story in the end...

Originally posted by: shabla

Hav ppl really stpd watchng d shw...EDT is soo vacant...

Coming to the episode...well torture game is on...definitley raja still hav feeling fr madhu...so cnt see her in pain... but no worries bcz agni is on duty and hav takn d role on mthr-in-law wth hr torture tactics...but to b frank i dnt lik tis torture game particularly...shw is abt to wrap up and we dnt have forevr...so close the mysteries and giv some gud dvd scenes as last memories...
Lastly JM if nthng thn plz change ur expression...nw evn ur pain and anguish hav disgust luk...I seriously wsh at all tis end wth a passionate rajbala and we hav a lov story in the end...

Today's episode was much better than yesterday's (where the scenes of Raja-Bittuji-Radha, JM-Raja, JM-Faguni, and Bittuji-Radha were excruciatingly irritating to watch as forcefeeding sympathy-gambits).
Comparatively, today's episode's sympathy-gambits were less sledgehammeringly blatant, though not anymore likely to get majority-audience's sympathy, since they have an unreassuringly consistent trackrecord of watching the female lead as respectful paragon of endurance to her husband and sasuraal in the face of protracted mental and/or physical torture, and as spirited crusader only for any topics outside that will either be totally outside her sasuraal or will preserve the sasuraal from further harm.

The CVs have three options.
The marital-rape became a non-issue for the majority-audience by its being between the popular lead-couple.
Raja forcing himself on her only when he was drugged and never previously was adequate alibi for mass-audience to condone a deed that they have repeatedly condoned in tracks where the male lead wasn't even drugged.
And excellent viewership for every dratted track where the female lead did *not* go crusading for justice against her male lead husband proves with formidable evidence that the matter doesn't give mass-audience even a moment of qualm.
Their only qualms can be counted on to manifest with maintained viewership-crash at the female lead behaving like a supporting character and fighting for her own rights, rather than enduring for herself and defending only others as expected of all female leads of serials with enough millions of viewership.

Option 1 - Opt for the most provenly successful viewership-rebuilding route, where JM suddenly stops her guaranteedly mass-unappealing 'jungli jaanwar' jaap of her own superiority, and wins over Raja and Dauji by her gentleness and conduct (logic can take a flying leap).
If they could show JM behaving like that with AK's Dolly-chachi after being called thief and shoes-wiping, then Dauji has comprehendingly done her far less harm comparatively. He, Raja and JM have been played as pawns, and none of them are selfless saints (from 2nd week of May 2014 onwards) to stand on high ground.

Option 2 - Have JM find out about Bhanu's drugging Raja, so that she can consider Raja and herself as both victimized by Bhanu, rather than herself as the lone victim.
She can then proceed to somehow expose Bhanu to Raja and Dauji (*not* make wasted accusations that Raja would then disbelieve, wasting the serial's screentime, scenes and probably episodes for such a stupid cliche).
The couple could then *unitedly* work against the antagonist (rather than the channel/CVs sterling twofold floprecord for this series of either the antagonist winning until the last few minutes of a track, or the mass-unappreciable inadequately-traditional heroine as the solo rescuer and saviour. Every track on both these variations has crashed with remarkably foreseeable lack of viewership).
Let the couple fight *together* against the antagonist, effectively and successful at every increasing step, culminating in their combined triumph as a couple.

Option 3 - Have Raja soften first (with or without finding out about Bhanu's drugging Raja and/or Bhanu's not fully informing JM about Baiji) and seek reconciliation with JM, while JM rejects that for a brief or extended length of time before yielding.
The CVs may perhaps have an assurance of their viewership continuing to crash by that route, with mass-audience definitively sure to switch the channel until *after* the couple has reconciled and the husband is no longer in the mass-unappealing position of supplicant to a wife who has been staggeringly disrespectful in her repudiation of the marriage for almost two months of episodes.
The characters could be scripted to do as many sympathy-gambits as they like in the meanwhile, with as track-crashing lack of mass-sympathy and mass-viewership as in all previous tracks.

Desperately hoping the channel/CVs will have the prudence to opt for either option 1 or option 2, rather than blunder into option 3 which may be considered foreseeably sure of maintaining lack of mass-viewership consistent with all the other simultaneous and previous tracks of the channel.
The only upside is that however less viewership this series gets, it's in the same league as the other fictional serials of the channel. Some reassurance of calibre in being en masse.

Hoping we can stop being inundated with the chafingly uncouth 'jungli jaanwar' jaap from JM as well as from her kin.
Would prefer Bittuji's and his family's presence as little as possible.
But would like Radha to move in with Raja, JM and Dauji, though not as a snobbish selfrighteous engineered-dialogues sympathy-gambits pawn that she has been scripted as at the chawl for the past several episodes. If as that, then she might as well remain at the chawl for a few episodes. At least her mass-popularity would remain somewhat secure, unlike Padmini's.

The episode was overall okay, though Faguni's earlier memorable speech about the wrong of executing murderers and thereby widowing their wives had me mute her sympathy-gambit dialogues for JM yesterday and today in pre-emptive caution.

On a different note, the stuffing being strewn around the room reminded of the pillows spilling feathers all over the bedroom set during the 'gulaabi' song. Got to admire the effort of whoever actually tackled the onscreen mess offscreen that time and this time. And to add to that, it's all white.
And Raja's changed his shirt. Now tomorrow, looking forward to JM in a different sari.
Petrified about forthcoming scenes content and invariably wasted sympathy-gambits, but at least both leads may finally be doing their scenes in changed outfits after several episodes tomorrow.

I loved first scene of DVD..Raja's reluctance to give her pain and went away..madhu's stubbornness..I liked it..and rest blah blah blah

Originally posted by: river123

A quick fly-by today. I liked the episode. There were moments when Raja is hesitant to go through with his "revenge". I liked that they showed that he still has feelings for her. Would like to see that side come more to the forefront, and then eventually win over his hate. I actually feel like it will be more powerful if he comes to the realization, on his own, that she was incapable of harming someone. Rather than him finding out the truth, and then being remorseful.

Today was much better than yesterday (where both DD and VD looked repetitive, him with the smirks, and her with her crusading looks.) I really liked both of them today.

Bhanu is creepy. Agni is good, Bhabhi is ok - there's something about that voice modulation thats off, but I don't want to be excessively picky.

@Bold, that's what I liked most in today's episode, as I said yesterday, I know he won't be able to carry on with his revenge plan, he won't be able to see her hurt, and I want to see more humanity from his side, I genuinely felt for Madhu and was angry with Raja when she was about to enter that room and she remembered him raping her in that room, I mean how can I blame her, it's such a hurtful, humiliating thing and painful for us as viewers too, they rubbed salt on our wounds especially when Raja is nothing but nice now, so yes in the last scene I was with Madhu

I know all this is to bring them closer, they will put her in situations where she might get hurt and Raja won't bear it and will come to her rescue even if he himself is planning things for her, his love will take over and I hope as you said he realizes her hurt

Cvs had complicated things a lot for us :

- Ek taraf rape, so how can we blame Madhu no matter what, he is the hero who loves her so it will always be distasteful for us and for her, I mean if he is drugged that doesn't change the pain she felt and she still feels, and him not repenting doesn't make it any better, so even If I understand him and the circumstances under which he did what he did (drugged, drunk, hurt for being humiliated, instigated, his background...) I can't help but feeling for Madhu because no woman deserves this no matter how much humiliations she gave him and afterall he can't compell her to love him- yes we as viewers suckers of the love story wanted her to soften, to try to change him as a typical heroine, instead of giving expressions of disgust and hate which meant for us that the love story we are longing for is in danger- but the fact is she has the right to chose whether to love him or not, she has the right to decide whether to stay or not, none has the right to compell her, but unfortunately in our society violence, blackmailing exists, I know we said she could have tried to not provoke them and act more wisely, yes she might have done this, but if she doesn't that doesn't give them the right to humiliate her or illtreat her.

- Dosri taraf is Raja's Baiji died, so he feels Madhu is responsible (will I think they shouldn't blame her afterall she didn't push Baiji from the stairs!! but yes that doesn't change Raja's feeling that she was the reason that prevented him from giving his Baiji Blood, blood might have saved her ot not, but for him he was deprived from the opportunity to help his Baiji)

Well I guess the logical woman in me is talking today but still I love love-hate stories where the hero redeems himself and makes it up to his heroine and I expect the heroine to see humanity in him, this is what I was wanting Madhu to do, to get advantage of the fact that he loves her and try softly to change him and if it didn't work to try in a witty intelligent way with tricks and always control his anger taking advantage of the fact that he loves her, that could have been the happiest scenario for Raja, Rani and us viewers