Episode 610 Discussion: 26th June 2014, Thursday - Page 2

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: arshisfan



Well I guess the logical woman in me is talking today but still I love love-hate stories where the hero redeems himself and makes it up to his heroine and I expect the heroine to see humanity in him, this is what I was wanting Madhu to do, to get advantage of the fact that he loves her and try softly to change him and if it didn't work to try in a witty intelligent way with tricks and always control his anger taking advantage of the fact that he loves her, that could have been the happiest scenario for Raja, Rani and us viewers



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I 100% agree, this is what we would all like to see, that way we see a clever madhu (may be glimpses of her mother during the initial " just after 4 phera wedding...?" or even after the unwedding) and that nook-johok (as tweed by NF) is what is audience gathering and what we would like to watch,
what i think frustrates and takes the fun out of watching is knowing the show is ending, and with the backdrop of wasted time and tracks, with the little time the show has, we seem to not have patience to forgive and let go wasted episodes.

Now-a-days i just watch it as if it were a one episode thing without much history, and glimpses of DVD... just to pass the time...

I feel he doing this torture more for himself (his rejected love and accusation on him) than his family...and that's why it will be assuaged sooner because the love will triumph the hate, but the Q is , for raja there is love that existed before that will now over come his hate, but for JM where will the love come from to beat the hate she has for Raja 😕

In the end, I want not just a happy ending in the one last episode dedicated to clearing all misunderstandings and showing some unrealistic time leap of all being happy etc. I want a proper love story to develop and conclude...😡 so CV you dont have much time for this negativity...buck-up and get you act together even if its for the last time and take it to the class you began it with it. People may forgive you for messing up a gem, for you at least gave them something in the end to have find memories about...😕
Edited by 4EVRoptimist - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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LOOONG POST AHEAD 😎😛

Hi

I am new here, and new to Hindu drama in general, this is only my 3rd Hindu drama ever, I watches IPKKD and Geet prior to this show so my view may be limited...but...never the less...here is my input on all this bakvaz

I am probably the only person in here that is enjoying this ridiculous new plot development. LOL 😆

In my defense I watched this show in course of one week (all day and night) not 2 years like most of you. And I also skipped big middle part (from before KRK shows up and needless to say all AK plot...feel sorry for the guy, he may be good actor but from couple random scenes with Madhu I got nothing from watching them on screen so I just gave up on that plot part...plus all this Madhu with glasses irritated the living hell out of me 🤢 so I just said, thank you, but no thank you... maybe one day I revisit but for now don't feel like it. So I maid not be so overly saturated with this show like most of you

...and then I randomly picked one of those episodes with 8 year old" RK Raju and I really liked his acting and character in general so I started watching again from there - the wedding scene episode until today's episode

...and all was good and peaceful in the drama land until someone forgot to lack the door in special unit in Lunatic house and some random nuts job started to call the shots in this show... because I swear I do not know how else to describe plot development from the point where Raja takes the rope, hangs AK and then everyone (AK included) peacefully wait and watch who will be the one to pull the door knob and hang him to death?!?🤣... I mean forget screaming, pleading or kicking for your life... We are now in full I am to stoned to care"mode and from that point on it just gets better and better"...LOL 👏

...the only short way to explain my attachment to this new plot development is battered wife syndrome":😆😉

No matter how many times her husband beats the living crap out of her she still stay with him and hope/believe all will be better tomorrow, he will never ever do that again...he had a bad day today and all will be ok from tomorrow... yea right!😆

And that was my reasoning while watching this entire Raja and his family new plot line. I was constantly like W*F is this? Are they nuts? Who is writing this stuff? Like, when did some alien abducted entire madhubala team and started writing and filming this parallel universe plot line? And more importantly why am I watching this?? Tomorrow will all be back to normal? Right? I mean this makes no sense? Right? All will be back to normal tomorrow? Right? Hmmm... tomorrow... hmm... when will it be tomorrow? Please someone save me and make is be tomorrow today

... But tomorrow never came...and I got used to this freak show...hell, I learned to like it just the way it is...why? It actually made sense. If they picked some normal" plot I doubt I would bother watching in real time... it would probably be - been there done that with couple new twist but nothing ground braking...I hate you...then I see your softer side...you save me and then from one day to the next I start loving you to and all is well in the wonderland and they live happy ever after bakvaz...

...in that case I would wait until show ends and then one fine day just watched all episodes in one go... but the way the plot is going now, for better or worse I want know: how far are they planning to push this🤪... I am now not only watching the show daily but in actual real time - live stream...call me crazy but I need to know...who is the craziest person in this joint? People making this thing or me watching it...but ...I am watching it never the lees...

🤣🥳

Ok...

Now to actual plot and character analysis"

As far as Rajas character is concern ppl are more or less understanding where he is coming from and what is making him tick (in one word Madhu - his queen) despite all this hatred and revenge play - he is in it for the long run...even when he is at his full anger/revenge element and drages her home so his babuji can take his revenge on her; note what he say; babuji where are you going? here is your criminal, you punish her however you see fit, until you are satisfied and once you are done then YOU can go back home. He never once said, then WE will go back home. For him family is family, and family obligation are to be respected and for filed. His sister died because of Madhu and for that she must be punished, but once the punishment is over it is back to business as usual: him and Madhu hamisha hamisha...crazy I know...🤪but for me that is what I get from watching his character. For him his family is his family, but his WE" are - him and Madhu, now and forever more. Even if they love, hate, throw stones or give life for one other - she is his and he is hers. She is the one that gave"life to him again (figuratively and literally) and he is hers and following that (Raja) logic - she is his.

But Madhu character...so help me God I do not know from what angle to look at her to see what is it that makes her tick?!? 🤢🤪

Humans are conditional creatures, we adapt to any given situation, for better or worse... given time we can adapt and accept our reality no matter how absurd or unbelievable it may be. But she just does not make sense. There is no logic or development in her train thought...she is like a broken record that is stuck at one part and is playing it over and over and over again... like a dear couth in the head light - keeps staring at it and not moving from point 😕

...I am talking about all this you are animal" bakvaz... the more she keep saying it the more it feels - it is not him she is trying to convince of that but herself. And that is the only logical "way to explain her current behavior.

She is actually in love with him, or better said was from way back, but her logic and reason, could not accept that she could actually feel something for someone as row and rude and crude and all the worst in human like he is.

But he did everything for her...from when he was only "8 year old kid" and beat the living crap out of AK for her - she loved it!

Say whatever you want about her sweet character that would not hurt a fly or far lees kill that innocent animal during that freaky ritual in his home, but at that point she absolute loved the fact that someone wonted to protect her to the point of almost killing someone who dared to hurt her. Something her own family members never did (regardless if they know of her current situation or not, as time has proven time and time again - her family needs her only to make sacrifices for them so they can have a better life, they may be feeling sorry and tormented but that does not change the fact that they accept her sacrifice as a given course of action) That was beginning for her... but he was only a kid"at that point so it had no further implication.

She made a pact (dared) God himself to dare and separate him from her that night he was in the hospital, and then all hell break lose as her sweet 8year old kid comes back as this freak from parallel universe🤣 Terminator meats Hannibal Lector meats Casanova meats Hillbilly meats Doc Jekyll and Mr. Hyde meats Darth Vader all in one nice package now called RAJA - run for your life - KAPOOR KUMAR KUSHWA!!!

I mean the boy is all that and then some. He can kill without blinking, his reasoning for whatever he is doing is flawless, completely absurd out-of-this-world from one side but from logic point of view - he makes sense in his craziness. He has the brain, the looks, the money and the attitude to go with it. He is the king in his universe and all he needs is his queen - Madhu, and he will go to any length to make her see the light of his way".🤗🤪

And so the boy takes his queen to his world (read - his, end of the world village where time has stopped centuries ago and where he is the pride and joy of his babuji who rules all that walk on this land...talk about where the boy got his larger-than-life-ego) so he can brag to all about his lovely wife... but surprise surprise ... they do not like this miss from outer world but will tolerate her for his sake...for now...and so the never ending story continues...curtness opens and here enter Raja dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde" Kapoor Kumar Kushwa!!! Sorry I lost track of what is his current last name...

One minute he is this crazy sociopath like the rest of his family and the next minute someone dares to even look funny at his wife he will breathe fire at them and forget all about family ties and buried them in unmarked grave if necessary.😡 He will almost kill anyone who even dares to lay a hand on his wife and then the next minute he will watch over her while she sleeps and keep her safe...and what is the girl to do in this kind of situation? Run for her life, any chance she gets! Because if she stays with him any longer, if she gets to know him any better, then she just maid end up liking him.🤪 So it is new movie now - Run Forest Gump Madhu, run! But she keeps forgetting, past or present this is MK's world and MK's movie and things will go as he has planed. Him and her together hamisha hamisha!!!😆

The closer he comes to her to more persistent she will be to run from him. She will push and scratch and scream until he accepts to let her go back to her world. And the girl is all happy, she made it before she got to deep, but guess again, just because she wants to live in her world and he agrees to that, that does not mean he will let her go - he is moving to her world to!!! 👏 Leaving all of his family and friends and his entire world and coming with her to HER world?!? And the girl is like: Come again? What just happened? Huston we have a problem" 🤣

This boy will not stop, even if she hits him with a brick in the head 😆- he is in full you and me baby hamisha hamisha" mode and nothing short of a bullet to the brain will stop him (and probably not even that - he would reasoned with devil himself that it is better to send him back for he can do devils work on earth and be with his wife). I mean the boy that would leave his entire world for her and come with her?!? Talk about love obsession. For all the protest she is putting up for being in this crazy situation she is painfully aware of the fact that he would give his life for her, and would do anything for her...and more importantly would never leave her (unlike her parents and Didi that is with all due respect with one/two legs in the grave already)

The difference in which he treats the rest of the world and the way he treats her is polar opposite. Entire world is meant to bend to his will,😡 but he will bent only in front of her. He will make entire world knee and bow to him and at the same time he is never happier then bowing down to her and being her slave for the rest of his life. 🤣It is wary powerful and addictive position to be in. No matter how much of a resistance she put in unless she runs from him she will eventually accept her role"in his movie. She will adapt to fact that she likes/loves him. And for that reason she is screaming you are animal and I am human all the time, desperately trying to separate him from her world. 👏😆

For me this is the only logical explanation in this current situation: she is standing still and screaming for entire world to hear: he is an animal and I could never be with him, never. And she is doing so every chance she gets, more to convince herself then him or the rest of the world of this fact. She has lost all reason and logic at this point and is concentrating on one point only: don't get caught,😎 never let him close enough or she will never let him go. She needs the world to know what kind of an animal he is so even if she one day change her mind and does wants to go to him the rest of the world will stop her.

When you look at her she is like in the state of trance most of the time and runs on autopilot, 🤪all she does when she sees him is scream run from me, leave me alone, you are an animal and I am human yada yada yada... it's like self hypnosis, making herself first and foremost believe that what she is saying is true and if she keeps saying it one day she will believe it to, one day it will become true.

She is standing still and screaming her lungs out at him because if she moves even one step from where she is, if she makes even one more step in his direction she will pass the point of no return and will become idiot in love like him" if she accept that she loves him she will have to accept that she would do anything for him and that is something she is not ready. Love of that intensity is not something she has expected or prepared herself for.

Ok, this post is getting to long now, and I need to finish this for now 😆 bc it is like 4,00am here and I have a meeting and video conference scheduled for the first thing in the morning so I need to get some sleep and go back to the real world now

the point I am trying to make is, given the fact we have like only 2 more weeks to go in this show and if they plan to go for happy ending and all that happy ever after, Madhu needs to be ALREADY IN LOVE at this point in time, but just not being able to admit that to herself or anyone ells for the time being, because in that way they can move the plot to closure more faster and realistic then for her to wake up one day and he saves her life or whatever and only then and there she falls in love with him. If things are played this way then all this craziness from last couple of weeks makes sense..Otherwise...so help me God I have no way to explain where and how they plan to close this show in given time.

Anything short of Raja going into full Darth Vader mode and proclaiming: I am your father Luke Madhu" 🤣goes at this point.🤪..LOL... Anything (but that) is possible, just not probable. And for better or worst I plan to stick to the bitter and to see how they rap this thing up.

Will be back this weekend to finish this bakvaz talk, but for now please do not throw stones in my direction. I am new here so have some pity on me, I know this point of view is probably opposite of most ppl here but never the less is makes sense for me... for now anyway.

And as far as today's episode is going ... just one thought: thx God the boy finally changed his shirt 👏👏👏 (and hopefully took a shower as well)😉 LOL... yes I loved that old dark green color shirt better than this new one...but boy needed change of wardrobe ASP so this is ok for now... but please move along from this same shirt different color scenario and put some other thing on him to ...

Ok...that is all for now...

Sweet dreams..or good morning/day/evening to all of you sweet ppl of the world

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Link to Episode 611 Discussion: 27th June 2014, Friday

Episode 611 Discussion: 27th June 2014, Friday


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Posted: 11 years ago
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madhubala ek nafrat ek badla continues😡..me waiting to see the end of this torture..😔
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Lovely review Miriam, intersting take!
Edited by arshisfan - 11 years ago

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