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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thank you Riyya 😊. Where were you? I really missed you in the forum😭
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: deejagi


Kshithi but it is really true you can loads and loads to your enemy or a friend and when that becomes a soul mate there is no need to be vocal. So we tend to talk less. That is why people say they talk marathon during courtship and hardly speak after marriage. The fact is that onc eyou understand your partner, he or she need not have to spell everything, we tend to understand their silent notions and also are supposed to understand.


Jaya,

Yes, true. 😊
Also, there has to be proper communication between the two. They may talk less now that they have understood each other. But people hardly remain same. People and circumstances keep changing. Always make sure your partner know what you are feeling about certain things. Jodha needed to vent out on how she was feeling at that time. Communication need not always mean getting to know each other. What do you say?

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Kshithi
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Jaya,

Yes, true. 😊
Also, there has to be proper communication between the two. They may talk less now that they have understood each other. But people hardly remain same. People and circumstances keep changing. Always make sure your partner know what you are feeling about certain things. Jodha needed to vent out on how she was feeling at that time. Communication need not always mean getting to know each other. What do you say?

Love
Kshithi


Yes Kshithi, being open and transparent in any relationship is very much required. One should not take the other for granted and think ythey should understand my needs and wishes with out me telling in clear words. One needs be to vocal as well as clear while talking to the other. there is no point in beating the bush kind of talks when you are talking your own people who matters a lot. Even after this pouring out of their hidden hurt of an year, when they are ready to face each other without turning the face sideways, they need to talk and shield the relation on complete trust. Now that she has said she needs her self respect etc etc, it doesn't mean Jalal knows everything and can make things perfect between them. She needs to openly tell him what all she expects from him and vice versa, even he needs to be open with her. Only then they can last for ever otherwise within next few days or months, they will land back in to the same situation.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: deejagi


Yes Kshithi, being open and transparent in any relationship is very much required. One should not take the other for granted and think ythey should understand my needs and wishes with out me telling in clear words. One needs be to vocal as well as clear while talking to the other. there is no point in beating the bush kind of talks when you are talking your own people who matters a lot. Even after this pouring out of their hidden hurt of an year, when they are ready to face each other without turning the face sideways, they need to talk and shield the relation on complete trust. Now that she has said she needs her self respect etc etc, it doesn't mean Jalal knows everything and can make things perfect between them. She needs to openly tell him what all she expects from him and vice versa, even he needs to be open with her. Only then they can last for ever otherwise within next few days or months, they will land back in to the same situation.


Very true Jaya. 👏

Once again I really must tell you that you have written a great post. 😊
One of very few which I have liked in the last few days.
Please keep posting regularly. I have not come accross many of your posts.

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Kshithi

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: kmmdesai


Very true Jaya. 👏

Once again I really must tell you that you have written a great post. 😊
One of very few which I have liked in the last few days.
Please keep posting regularly. I have not come accross many of your posts.

Love
Kshithi


Thanks for liking my post. had not posted many separate posts. Will try to give links later on ones I had posted earlier

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: kmmdesai

Hi Jaya,

wonderful post. 👏
I am so glad to read your beautiful analysis.

When we try to understand Jalal, we should always keep in mind that he had a different childhood than a normal child of that time. Abandoned by his mother (in his eyes at least), he must have trust issues and anger issues. I was mentioning this just yesterday to Abhay. And then read your post.

This explains the rage and anger he has inside in him and he always lost his senses whenever he was in his rage mode. And also, he has this absolute trust only on MA, Ruks and HB. But he maintains a distance from HB. And maybe because of this he needs constant proofs about loyalty.

Also, we cannot discount the influence MA and BK had on him. Growing up in war zone and BK's manipulations made a huge impact. From beginning he was given a dream to expand his kingdom and he went with it. Influence of MA, Ruk and BK helped in making a "king". But, what about the boy, then a young man within; who took care of him and his emotional needs? Even here they did not help him become a wholesome king. BK just instilled in him that to become a great King, you have to win wars and also control everyone with his cruelty and manipulate everyone to gain what you want. Jodha met him at the right time. He was just beginning to get out the influence of BK and MA, and has started thinking on his own.

Even though he is a good king and has perception and maturity to grow into a great king, he is still immature as a young man. Hence he could not handle unexpected Jodha. He could not be clear in his own emotions and hers as well. He took a lot of time to understand her. And Jodha was the one who connected with the young man, not the king. An emotionally mature man will always turn out be a great king.

Yet, he does not yet have the emotional maturity to handle a husband-wife relationship. He has only beginning to acknowledge "Love" as an emotion, not a distant make-believe fantasy. Hence all the blunders he has done. Only now he has understood that Love, Trust, loyalty and honesty and everything in between is what makes a relationship. Just loving someone and saying so is not enough. You need to constantly work on the relationship and never take the person for granted.

From pampered princess who had just started to see the outside world to marrying Jalal, the transformation was so sudden and shocking that she could not handle the change. While trying go through the life at Agra, place which was hostile (expect for few), unknown and alien, she has had her share of difficulties. Jalal did not help this transition either. Daily humiliations, manipulations and misunderstandings made her a bitter person. For a person whose self-respect and dignity was above everything was made to lose that on a regular basis.

Over a course of time she came to terms with her life, with Jalal. She transformed from someone who hates Jalal to someone who can her life to save him. By helping Jalal into growing into the kind of person he was destined to become, she grew as person as well. She needed to see the world with lots of shades, and to understand that world is not just black and white. She saw love in his eyes, in his actions. But she did not understand his constant change in his moods, and also the reason behind them. She did not understand that, even a man who is as confident as Jalal, needs constant assurances about her love. She could not understand that even Jalal can be vulnerable, just like her. Even though she has seen the love Jalal has for her, she is yet to sense the loyalty that he will be with her no matter what, trust that he will always believe her, respect for an individual identity, dignity which will always be maintained.

So, here we are where both Jalal and Jodha are in a good place, emotionally. Both said what needed to be said. I am eagerly waiting for the coming story.

Love

Kshithi




Kshithi I am really glad you are regularly back on the forum. Really missed you. Loved the parts in bold especially.

Wonderful post - how differently Jalal and Jodha started in their life. Jodha has had wonderful warm loving upbringing and Jalal has had anything but that!

I loved how you described Jodha connected with the man Jalal not the king.

Jodha knows how good relationship should be and trust, respect and love go hand in hand. Jalal is only just learning about love and he was so scared of messing it up, he just went ahead and made an even bigger mess of it! So he will learn the value of trust especially. He will respect Jodha more for standing up for her self respect and dignity.

I just hope Jalal is not greatly hurt and Jodha's safety and love coin will save him 😆 I just wish he goes to Amer and we get to see they start the relationship now after they have taken out all the bitterness out of it. Gangaur is just the perfect time and place for them to confess love - this time with love!

Jaya I guess you got your 2-3 days separation atleast. Jodha is already in Amer and I guess it is 1st day of Gangaur and she is getting restless and worrying about Jalal's safety at the sankets. Even on her 1st day in Amer she is missing Jalal and only thinking about him.

How much in pain Jalal is at losing her and I just loved the dialogue they gave Jalal today.
The "dil" one so cute - his dil is with Jodha now and she would not want anything to happen to him and he will not let her dil get hurt again!

Please Jalal go to Amer 😆

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