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Since last few days, I am confused by reading this history. About Bhimdev Solanki of Gujarat who was noble raja of those times (not the devil as shown in PRC). So i was just wondering how can one history book say he was hero and another villain. But now I can say that Mahummad Ghazani and Mahummad Ghori were different persons. (Ghori came after Ghazani) And Bhimdev had saved Somnath from Ghazani. But high probability that these both Bhimdevs are same person (as bhimdev is quite elder to prithvi, right?) If that's the case, then i can explain it this way that history is different from different eyes. 😛 Please, is someone here master of history? 🤢 (If anyone has access to gujarati novels (or translated version), you can refer to "Patan Ni Prabhuta" or "Gujarat No Nath" )....... Please someone help me.😕

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Ohhh.......!!!!! so there is something else to talk about ummm.......have they ever shown in the serial that Bhimdev is dat person belonging to Solankis of Gujarat?
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yep ur rite sumthinx new

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Vintha Raj

Ohhh.......!!!!! so there is something else to talk about ummm.......have they ever shown in the serial that Bhimdev is dat person belonging to Solankis of Gujarat?

that's a problem, they never say his surname in the show. only thing we get to hear is that bhimdev is king of gujarat 😕 ya, this is sth new to talk about. right

Edited by CherryPrincess - 18 years ago
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I don't think he is....if was kind enough to protect the temple how can he be so cruel to his Mantriji?
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Vintha Raj

I don't think he is....if was kind enough to protect the temple how can he be so cruel to his Mantriji?

wl history records only major incidents, not small ones. so i guess all that cruelness may be creation of sagar if both bhimdevs are same persons, but if there are two bhimdevs then it's good for us

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: CherryPrincess

Since last few days, I am confused by reading this history. About Bhimdev Solanki of Gujarat who was noble raja of those times (not the devil as shown in PRC). So i was just wondering how can one history book say he was hero and another villain. But now I can say that Mahummad Ghazani and Mahummad Ghori were different persons. (Ghori came after Ghazani) And Bhimdev had saved Somnath from Ghazani. But high probability that these both Bhimdevs are same person (as bhimdev is quite elder to prithvi, right?) If that's the case, then i can explain it this way that history is different from different eyes. 😛 Please, is someone here master of history? 🤢 (If anyone has access to gujarati novels (or translated version), you can refer to "Patan Ni Prabhuta" or "Gujarat No Nath" )....... Please someone help me.😕

Hi, I am not a master of History, so can't help you with 100% correct info but I'll try to say something, hope that helps!

I think superficially just by reading few articles or books, we can't claim that we know the history! Its a vast field in itself and needs serious research....so may be we can contact a history or literature professor for true help!

About the connection between Bhimdev and Prithviraj Chauhan , you can learn something from the following article :

http://www.hinduvoice.net/cgi-bin/dada/mail.cgi?flavor=archi ve&list=nll&id=20070301163649

In this article, researchers are talking about more than one Bhimdev.

You said it right, that history is different in different people's eyes. For Bhimdev, Prithviraj Chauhan and Ajmer were rivals and he wanted to defeat them. So, he had to be bad for them, and he tried all possible ways (noble or not) with which he can defeat Ajmer. But that doesn't mean that Bhimdev was bad as a ruler and he didn't do any noble did for his own people.

Prithviraj Chauhan is considered as a true noble ruler, may be because; he valued everyone as a human, cared for the happiness of his kingdom and didn't do a war just because of greed, jealousy or revenge

And, bottom line is -

PRC serial is about Prithviraj Chauhan and they have to focus on PRC.

ANU

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Posted: 18 years ago
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YES, SUMTHING NEW IN THE HISTORY! 😆
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kashimani

hi, I am not a master of History, so can't help you with 100% correct info but I'll try to say something, hope that helps!

I think superficially just by reading few articles or books, we can't claim that we know the history! Its a vast field in itself and needs serious research....so may be we can contact a history or literature professor for true help!

About the connection between Bhimdev and Prithviraj Chauhan , you can learn something from the following article :

http://www.hinduvoice.net/cgi-bin/dada/mail.cgi?flavor=archi ve&list=nll&id=20070301163649

In this article, researchers are talking about more than one Bhimdev.

You said it right, that history is different in different people's eyes. For Bhimdev, Prithviraj Chauhan and Ajmer were rivals and he wanted to defeat them. So, he had to be bad for them, and he tried all possible ways (noble or not) with which he can defeat Ajmer. But that doesn't mean that Bhimdev was bad as a ruler and he didn't do any noble did for his own people.

Prithviraj Chauhan is considered as a true noble ruler, may be because; he valued everyone as a human, cared for the happiness of his kingdom and didn't do a war just because of greed, jealousy or revenge

And, bottom line is -

PRC serial is about Prithviraj Chauhan and they have to focus on PRC.

ANU

thanks a lot for your comments. it really helps. i agree to whatever u said. i guess everyone has to follow their own "Dharm" and which is to think about prosperity of their own Praja. So, that's what every king was doing. btw can u do me a favor? i couldn't opent that article u sent, even after i subscribed i m getting same page for sign up always. 😕

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Posted: 18 years ago
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few days back a similar thread was posted and in that it said that both the bhimdevs were different..

the first generation one was kind and saved the somnath temple...but nothing spectacular was written about his successor..

so i guess it could be two different bhimdevs as both ruled gujarat.. if you search for the thread im sure you will find it.. 😊

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