Ruq vs Jo - Whose love is greater? - Page 2

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: pallavi003

pakka world war III hone wala hai yahan par..😆😆




🤣 EXACTLY what I wanted to write but feared writing!!! 🤣
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

This is again based on posts on this forum. Majority is of the opinion Ruq's love is greater because she can accept Jalal, good or bad. In comparison, Jo will not support Jalal if he is wrong - she will give him bhashans till he corrects himself.

What's your take on this? Should a person ignore the faults in a beloved or try to correct them (knowing of course, people can't generally be changed or honed to perfection)? Are you like Ruq or Jo?

Practically no one can afford to be like jo until they have a husband like jalal with all his patience love and admiration who tolerates her I-am-perfect-you-too-should-be-perfect-by-my-definition.

If I were jalal of this age while I would love to have jo as a colleague it is ruqaiya I would like to have for a wife.

If you remember jo's no grina dialogues that gave jalal chest pains it is that I have no grina as you have changed not because I misunderstood you and stand corrected now. She never admits that she is wrong even when she is. The only rare exception was after the fake pregnancy track but even that didn't last long. She started insisting on her universal forgivance policy though she didn't apply that herself when she was betrayed by her own family.

But ruqaiya can accept and love jalal in all circumstances. She does express her views, ( okay screeches sometimes) but leaves the decision to his better judgement. Not insists in her view of what is right.

I have stated this in another thread. Tulsidas is considered as one of the best poets of hindi and he excelled in all kinds of poems. But surdas wrote poems only on 'vatsalya' meaning affection but in that area even Tulsidas couldn't equal him. Both are incomparable poets in their own right.

Similarly jodha excels in very many things but when it comes to loving jalal with unflinching loyalty in my pov ruqaiya overtakes her, though ruqaiya stands nowhere near jo in anything else.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nobody's love can b compared!
Plus Jo n Ruqs r different human beings, born n brought up differently!
Their way of loving z different so both r good!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Jodha HATERS thinks its RQ's love which is GREAT,GREATER n GREATEST 😆 😆😆 n for Jodha LOVERs( only SOLO fans of jodha n AkDha lovers 😳 ) its obvly jodha's 😆

Dont want to fall any of these catagories , for me love is LOVE and it can't be compared . its just that we people love each person differently in different ways in our life . 😳
Edited by sonilausarun - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Greater?
To love well is itself a great thing ,wouldn't you say?


So I would say whose Love do you prefer. That's a tough one, they both excel at in in drastically different ways though!


I very often hear this against Ruqaiyya & might've said too a few times - Her Obsession with her Audha, her position. Yes, she loves her position absolutely. But it is intrinsically linked to Jalal. The same way that if Jalal wasn't the Emperor & a commoner ( not a karigar! But not of a high status, let alone of royal blood) Jodha wouldn't have looked at him even once. Nothing wrong with that. in the times they lived in Status was ALL- Important, and Protocol esp by Royalty, was Paramount.


Up until recently, Jodha wished to change Jalal. For him to fall in line with her accepted & practiced Moral Code. For a young girl who was born into an extremely high position, but One who taunts others to practice what she feels is right. To this end, she never even leaves the Emperor, her own husband!!


She constantly chides others , well Ruqaiyya about materialism, yet strangely, it is she who resembles Diwali night, daily. She wrinkles her nose on how everyone is attached to the Emperor's Position , yet she swans around using her Rank as Shahenshaah's Khaas Begum which is dervived FROM the Emperor to carry out her latest Mahila Andola Campaign.


Yet, Jodha is a very good soul. Innocent, absolutely genuine ( at times a bit too much 😆) intelligent & her innate goodness shines through in everything she does. Which is why I very very strongly suspect, she gets away with all of her self-righteous bhaashan-baazi & campaigns. 😆

Her Love for Jalal, stems from Duty. But that is because till now she has never understood what TRULY Love is. Jodha has had the immense good fortune, something Jalal & Ruqaiyya would kill for, to be loved more than what they're loved. To be understood without any protest made to be understood, to be loved, feted, honoured & washed with love from all sides. Who wouldn't want that?!

Till today Jodha has only known what it is to love her coterie of Saas & Amer 😆. In time, I hope she'll know what it is to Love wholly, with complete acceptance of the Other.

I suspect that the CVs will make her, the title is after-all JODHA- AKBAR. 😉

But while a person's nature can change , their basic instincts never do. They surface when they're threatened in any way, and Jodha's Love for Jalal is quite the same. She'll always try to make him fall in line with what she feels is Right, with her Moral Codebook, no matter if common sense or Logic would steer her another way.

In essence, till today, she lacks the quality to Love, for the sake of it. For the person, not despite him.



Ruqaiyya: Ruqaiyya is a very vain, immensely spoilt & very, very insecure young girl. I speak of the way she is currently & the way am sure Lavina has been told to play her, NOT the old Ruqaiyya. Who truly was what Ruqaiyya would've been.


But her one redeeming quality, the one quality that stops her from being a conventionally negative person, is her Absolute, Selfless Acceptance of Jalal. It is rock-solid. Blind to the core. Yes, she takes him for granted, but which relationship esp one from childhood would not have that slight taking for granted? Jalal takes her for granted more. He knows his Gatti will always be there for him, no matter what. It is that assurance with Ruqaiyya that he absolutely lacks with Jodha, one of the reasons why works so very hard on Jodha.


Gatti accepts everything about Jalal. The good, the bad the ugly, the beautiful, the white & black & grey. EVERY SINGLE THING. For her everything that Jalal does is usually right. When he is wrong or when she feels he is straying from the path, she brutally holds up the mirror for him. It is to Jalal's credit & the love that he has for his childhood friend that, he doesn't say anything.

Yes, she is immensely jealous of Jodha. Yes, she somewhere hates her. But which girl who has been intimately close & has been to her husband since childhood, would NOT BE?

We cannot say that for Jodha because Jodha walked into Jalal's Life knowing about his polygamous nature. But if One remembers, she mentions that to her Dad too during her wedding week, "kaisi Raani, BaapuSaa? Aapki Jodha , kaiee Raanion mein se ek Raani hogi."

But Ruqaiyya would never harm Jodha. Because, despite her repeated declarations of Jalal having no heart, of her ruling her mind, I often feel these are just re-assurances. She knows & feels that Strange Pull, that attraction , those un-known emotions up until yesterday that, Jalal feels for Jodha.


In time, Ruqaiyya will accept Jodha as Jalal's Beloved. NOT because she loves Jodha, but because her Jalal Loves her.

It isn't possible to be so intimately bound with someone , and not develop an Intuitive Sense about them.

Ruqaiyya has it. She chooses to not delve into it, because she is petrified what it will bring her.


It is this Un-Conditional Surrender to Jalal, that marks Ruqaiyya. Which is what up-lifts her Love for Jalal.


P.S. I don't know whose Love is greater, frankly, I think the question itself is extremely un-fair.

To love anyone requires a certain giving of the soul. I see Ruqaiyya do that. I see Jodha, on the Path of that.

But I can tell you who I would want to be - JALAL! 😃

He is Blessed with the Love of two very interesting & intriguing women, who Love him whole-heartedly , in their own ways.


I would want to be like Jalal.. I am greedy like that! 😉



Edited by Mallika-E-Bhais - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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its hard to say..too early..ruq and jalal r together from childhood..jodha started her relation with him from strong ghrina..now its friendship and kartaviya..love from jo's angle is not clear yet, but when it will be then there will be comparison..as of now its comparing apples to oranges...but its a good point to be raised!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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love cant be measured dear..!! ruku and jo both love jallu equally in their own ways.. ruku's love is more of best friend's one ..while jodha's one is of shauhar type wala love..!!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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i m akdha lover

i can not compare the two love


but for me it will be obviously jodha😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: happygolucky099

i m akdha lover

i can not compare the two love


but for me it will be obviously jodha😳




PS:-wat matters is jalal kisko love karega ???answer is obvious😉


Edited by happygolucky099 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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on that basis i will go with a bit of both

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