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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Istila



Wow - Unbelievable U Turn! I never thought Ron & Payal that you would think like that. What's happened to you both?




After watching today's scene I really felt anger and sad Vikram give give n give and got nothing ? why ?? why ?? and that G making him more angry who wont turn bad person if he has family like vikram has ?
No one carez for him nor his wife nor his mom no one
taking him for granted or some kind a trash ... no one cares for his feelings
any other man will drive insane living among such kind of people
Sorry but I felt like if some 1 does this to me I would react this way ...
till when he should bear this things ???


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: preetie

It might increase TRPs. CV knows how much people hate Gulabia, Sugani, Spineless adi



hahahaahahah 1st show that they like us to hate Main leads 😉
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@Istila

Do you think Vikram will attack Sugni or try to rape her ???? I dont want him to do such things to her but I hate seeing bagging her all the time and she n her mom saying things or insulting him

I also dont like this idea But I want him to give back like he did with jwala thakur !! in a normal way he is educated so he can reply them like a smart man who knows how to attack back without ruining himself for cheap people around him !

Edited by ronshaan - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: JulieD

Vinnie you are on a roll girl!!! I haven't seen the episode, just read the WU and it pissed me off too. I just want Adini wedding to be over soon and let's move on to a new storyline already!!!!!


What new storyline... the show is and has been stagnant for the past few months with the writrs obbession in bring Vickram on the evil side. There is NOTHING else of intrest going on!!!..No side stories, like other shows, no other characters...every one keeps jumping in and out of the show at the writers /directors convience with out explanation. Kuhu suddenly showed up today looking happy at Sugni's wedding...when in reality she should have been confused as hell because the last time we saw her was at her BROTHER's and Sugni's wedding mandap! All off a sudden she is OK and has no questions about this major turn in her OWN Family...
Come one again the writers are stupid fools
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Istila

Although I have not been watching it all week, I knew this is exactly what they want to show from Varun's post. Vikram turning nasty into a psychopathic monster, because of the cruelty from his beloved, family & friends. Now revenge will be next shadowing the serial and it's mayhem may turn even more ugly.


It is absolutely diabolical. It neither suits Vikram's character nor of those who love him and reared him up to be the person he is according to the initial story! A good charactered person doesn't just fall evil. He has the capacity and strength of integrity & inner resources to resolve such crisis - as Varun already has shown (both on screen & off screen).

This is why I wrote a long post to Varun, against him turning negative, see the Vikram AT Thread. You can check it out here.

The show is devoid of all compassion, good values & justice. It is useless, boring, and meaningless. Until they stop forcing Varun to be weak or a villain and allow him to play Vikram as a strong, positive, person, most people will not watch it.

Best Wishes



Istila ,
Every one who are fans of Vickram Singh/ Varun Badola has made this same point in may different ways. However the writers refuse to heed us, and continue to show us that no matter what they are hell bent on making him negative. What they fail to realize is that even in doing so they will not make the character a person that we hate because his actions are all understandable, at least for us who have been here since the inception of the show!
They could never justify the Adi-Sugni relationship because the basis they put it on is too weak, yet they take us all for fools ...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: ronshaan

No mater what I do Support Vikram !!

for one moment I sow Sugni's love for vikram with no care about others and the 2nd moment she got slap from her mom and got back into idiot sugni !!! since when she hears what her mom has to say and her mom is WRONG ... I didnt see REVA care or come near her husband who was injured why MT not saying any thing about this ??? what marriage sugni wants to save ?? tie vikram with BAD wife who cares about her self only ... well I didnt see any care from MT too she is his mom too na ... so why didnt she come and show some care ... CRUEL FAMILY ... !!

Dont b surprised if man like vikram turn into evil one ...
I felt his pain and any other person would react this way


Again we have the writers.director to thank for that...Any one in there right minds would notice something going on between these two ...yet we have a havlie full of deaf, dumb , blind and stupid people who are experts in ignoring the obvious!
Guliabiya showed just how evil and ungrateful woman she is. She was hounding Vickram for his lieing about Reva, yet she came into the room to taunt him when she know very well she is lieng about her true identity and exsistance. I am sick and tired of her acting like vickram was the worse thing to happen to Sugni , when in reality if it were not for him they would have starved to death!!! Her Ungratefulness knows no bounds.
And this Crap about it being blessed by God... don't get me started on that. !!! That is maddening
Really Vickram should just come out at the wedding announce the truth of every ones identity ...and walk away from these wreched people. ... What kind of show is this that has us hating every character in this show except the Villian... are these people sane?

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Posted: 12 years ago
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... and they say its based on true story🤢 what actually happened if this is what happened then my sympathies with the Vikram character for being cheated by all family members and the bedni and her greedy family he loved really cruel happening and the man who left his would be 🤢🤢 and stole his mama's love🤢 and making him live in a loveless marriage
Yes a grey character has become a black character now and the whole lot who made made him that deserve whatever happens to them
Edited by chalhov - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Vinnie79



Istila ,
Every one who are fans of Vickram Singh/ Varun Badola has made this same point in may different ways. However the writers refuse to heed us, and continue to show us that no matter what they are hell bent on making him negative. What they fail to realize is that even in doing so they will not make the character a person that we hate because his actions are all understandable, at least for us who have been here since the inception of the show!
They could never justify the Adi-Sugni relationship because the basis they put it on is too weak, yet they take us all for fools ..
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I agree with everything you said. It's the very fact that they want to show Vikram's vicious actions 'will be all understandable', which is precisely why it is immoral & wrong.

No man has the right to use violence or cruelty on a woman, no matter how much she harasses him, patronizes & humiliates him, he has no right to hurt her. Yes, he, has the absolute right to make his viewpoint clear, to prevent her or others from harming him. He can get support & justice ...he can move out of town, and LEAVE!

However, the script writers & actors will not change their decision. They will not show TVS leaving them alone, or them leaving him alone. This is exactly what they want to show. The only way they can wrongly justify aggressive behaviour, assault or violence shown to a woman on screen is by changing your perceptions. They are glorifying evil. Obviously, Varun wants to take part in showing this negative role and he has said he wants this in the AT thread.

If the writers & actors enjoy getting money through making us angry, reactive and depressed, it is to their advantage, not ours. If they take pride in taking away our happiness from our lives, making us distressed, then imagine what type of people you are dealing with? (This is why I have left watching the show for weeks).

However, some of us keep coming back for more grief, unnecessarily, even though we know full well that it is appalling.

We come here and vent, wasting our precious little time, drain our energies, where our own social circle diminishes & breaks down, our quality of work gets in disorder and we may react angrily, online, (and offline), over TV.

I agree with you that they take us, for fools by doing so, and we also become fools by watching it.

This show has nothing to offer for weeks, months and possibly even for years, This is how they make money, through making us addicted and by making us all emotional.

It seems the only real purpose what these TV serials are made for.

My point is: One can not change others, but only himself.

Therefore, I will not watch this absurdity.



Edited by Istila - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Vinnie79


Again we have the writers.director to thank for that...Any one in there right minds would notice something going on between these two ...yet we have a havlie full of deaf, dumb , blind and stupid people who are experts in ignoring the obvious!
Guliabiya showed just how evil and ungrateful woman she is. She was hounding Vickram for his lieing about Reva, yet she came into the room to taunt him when she know very well she is lieng about her true identity and exsistance. I am sick and tired of her acting like vickram was the worse thing to happen to Sugni , when in reality if it were not for him they would have starved to death!!! Her Ungratefulness knows no bounds.
And this Crap about it being blessed by God... don't get me started on that. !!! That is maddening
Really Vickram should just come out at the wedding announce the truth of every ones identity ...and walk away from these wreched people. ... What kind of show is this that has us hating every character in this show except the Villian... are these people sane?

Agree with u
G made him angry person every time
even in that mandir she injured him and he reacted
the biggest Bad woman is G
and adi sugni are her puppets when they start using their brain she come and stop them raise her hands on sugni
how dare she live at his home and ruin his life like this and say she is doing good
I dont think she is doing it for reva (may b sugni yes but she no) she is doing it for her EGO !!!
she wants to see sugni rich married to YOUNG thakur
she doesnt care what is love
Some one plz call Saroj thakurain or Jwala thakur
Now I understand why Saroj hated her allot and her husband call her as his mistake !!
No more mercy on G
I hate her !!!
instead of adi there would b G I just want her to go to hell
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Istila

I never wanted TVS to become grey/evil. I wanted him to remain positive, doing the right thing by people regardless of caste, creed, wealth or poverty. As he was not meant to be the main lead he could have been left to that. But the CVs did not allow that.

After the wedding debacle I wanted Sugni to tell him that she can never be with him because it was against her principles and convince him to let her go. If as a result he was devastated and broken slowly rebuilding himself and his life I would have been fine with that because there is positive message in that the human spirit is strong an can survive to live again. But the CVs did not allow that.

They are determined to lead him down the path of wrong/evil. My comments were in context of the path the CVs have chosen. My comments also reflect human behaviour. No matter how good or strong someone is there is a point at which they lose control and do the wrong thing. He was a sleep/knocked out whatever yesterday. G did not need to wake him and force him to watch the ceremony. He would have found out about it when he woke up. What she did was pure evil. So I am expecting him to lash out. It's a normal human reaction and we can see that he does in the Friday promo. I have said elsewhere that after Friday I would like him to take a step back. I do not want him to use violence such as abducting Sugni or be vulgar such as attacking her or having an illicit affair. I want him use that shrewdness that we saw at the beginning of the show when he was dealing with TJS to make his point. He said to TJS "humne bahot tamisha sa hamari havali ki chabi maagi thi, apne mana kardiya so majburi ma humna yeh kadam uthana pada".

I would like him to do the same here ' he has treated all of these people with respect, apologised for his mistake, tried to make amends (ie tamisha sa sub kuch kia) but all of these people have done nothing but hurt him and now cruelly goaded him so he will now make his point in a manner that he would have preferred not to have done. (ie. majboori ma yeh khadam uthaya).

There is an old saying ' It takes a few good men to do nothing for evil to prevail.

IMO in this story that's where we are! These people have claimed that they are doing all this to save his marriage which is dead as a door nail but their actions show that this about getting what they want at any cost and they are becoming cruel, downright nasty and now pure evil to get there. It's time for a good man to stand up fight back and show them that wrong doing/cruelty/evil will not win and make these people rue the day they underestimated him. That is why I want him to fight back with finesse and without compromising his core values of being a decent human being.

I have said before and I will say it again, it's my observation that in the world we live in today

- good decent people who always try and do the right thing always suffer and are judged harshly; while

- those that are selfish/ who force their view on others without any consideration for other peoples feeling always land on their feet and everyone loves them.

==> Thats the case here.

TVS is a decent person who has tried to do the right thing and fate played a cruel trick on him. He lied once (I accept it was fundamental error judgement) and he has been paying the price for it ever since. Now he will pay the price in the cruellest way ' watching the girl he loves and lives for marrying his own nephew and being forced to watch them build their life in front of him on a daily basis.

Adi is a decent person but he has no right to interfere in his mama's marriage (regardless of how he feels about it). But he has done, with dire consequences and he is being treated as hard done by/martyr. Even after yesterday when without any pre-empting Sugni knew something was wrong with TVS before the call and the way she ran to him without giving a damn about anything should show Adi that she loves him and will always love him. He may not understand love but he should understand the phrase ' actions speak louder than words. That should tell him that no matter how much she says she will put TVS out of her mind and heart it is never going to happen.

G was a decent person who wanted her daughter's dream of being a wife rather than the other woman to come true but has now lost her moral compass and has become pure evil who will do anything and everything not only to secure her daughter's future but to wound TVS at every opportunity.

I am not putting Sugni in this list because she is a young girl trying to deal with a problem most adult women would find difficult. Yesterday during the ceremony at the havali you could see that she was very sad when Adi put chunari on her and was hurting because she could see how hurt/devastated he was. I think her asking him to give his blessing was her way of saying please let me go now because I don't want you to hurt anymore.

I agree it is important for a good person not to let evil into their heart but it is equally important for people that do wrong to see and suffer the consequences of their actions and repent because without that they will continue to believe that they are right and go on to do worse things. That why they say "jab inshan bhagwan ban na ki koshish karat hai tab woh bhagwan kum chatana jada banta hai"

My final comment is that God has been used despicably to endorse this IMMMROAL UNHOLY UNNECESSARY relationship and would like that message to be shown to be untrue by showing this marriage is not plain sailing.

Sorry for the long post but I wanted to clarify what I was saying. Apologies if my spelling of Hindi words is not correct.

Edited by payal7 - 12 years ago

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