So how am I supposed to root against Amrita? - Page 4

Created

Last reply

Replies

38

Views

5.4k

Users

9

Likes

138

Frequent Posters

KhatamKahani thumbnail
15th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail Networker 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 13 years ago
#31
I'm almost caught up with the episodes now. I have a couple more to go.

You know how I was holding off on judgment? Well no more. I watched enough to know...AS isn't doing justice to this role.

And I will just reiterate my original point. I really don't want to see Amrita delegitmized or Dhanuma's sexist, judgmental attitude legitimized.
bhavika0611 thumbnail
18th Anniversary Thumbnail Voyager Thumbnail
Posted: 13 years ago
#32
This thread was meant for Amrita, but i see major discussion is going on adi -vik and sugz triology 😆 i found Amrita sweet and sensible, and i hope she remains like that, i didn't find any traits of envy or proud in her till the date
But i failed to understand Adi, his entry was good and i'm hoping some funny scenes of him with sugni without getting in thakur -bedni equation. I found him childish and naive, he hates all bedni women but can not confront his own clan, he is staying with a thakur( vik's uncle)whose wife killed herself , that person is a leach and still lusting on a women, he didn't utter a word, but he treats sugni as dirt. why?
Cv's and the actor who plays adi have to work out hard, otherwise there is no chance adi, the character can stand in front of vik and sugz character.
P.S: is dhanuma has commented over Amrita, i have missed that thing😳
Edited by -Fragrance-- - 13 years ago
KhatamKahani thumbnail
15th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail Networker 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 13 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: -Fragrance--

This thread was meant for Amrita, but i see major discussion is going on adi -vik and sugz triology 😆 i found Amrita sweet and sensible, and i hope she remains like that, i didn't find any traits of envy or proud in her till the date

But i failed to understand Adi, his entry was good and i'm hoping some funny scenes of him with sugni without getting in thakur -bedni equation. I found him childish and naive, he hates all bedni women but can not confront his own clan, he is staying with a thakur( vik's uncle)whose wife killed herself , that person is a leach and still lusting on a women, he didn't utter a word, but he treats sugni as dirt. why?
Cv's and the actor who plays adi have to work out hard, otherwise there is no chance adi, the character can stand in front of vik and sugz character.
P.S: is dhanuma has commented over Amrita, i have missed that thing😳

I did too. But you know when he uttered the dialogues, I thought there is scope to this character but...

Also great point about Vik's uncle. Does he not know of this? His treating Sugni as dirt doesn't sit well with me. I have no desire to see that. And his way of speaking about a whole people. How old is he? He's in his late twenties probably. Even before he figured out she was a Bedni, there were traces of superiority while he was talking about her.

You mean, what did Dhanuma comment on Amrita?

I think it was in the 7 May episode.

First, we see her unpleasant reaction shot when Amrita hugs Vikram.

Then after everyone dispersed, she told Amrita that she has made arrangements for Amrita's stay at the outhouse. Amrita says she's always stayed at the house. And Dhanuma in a haughty tone says Amrita is by herself now, she wouldn't want any questions from her family--and some other stuff. At this time Aditya pops back in quickly to tell Dhanuma to let Amrita in, she's staying with them. Dhanuma of course doesn't like it one bit, but can't do anything. Amrita smiles and says, I've always considered this my family so there should be no problem. 😆
Edited by likarsh - 13 years ago
bhavika0611 thumbnail
18th Anniversary Thumbnail Voyager Thumbnail
Posted: 13 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: likarsh

I did too. But you know when he uttered the dialogues, I thought there is scope to this character but...

Also great point about Vik's uncle. Does he not know of this? His treating Sugni as dirt doesn't sit well with me. I have no desire to see that. And his way of speaking about a whole people. How old is he? He's in his late twenties probably. Even before he figured out she was a Bedni, there were traces of superiority while he was talking about her.

You mean, what did Dhanuma comment on Amrita?

I think it was in the 7 May episode.

First, we see her unpleasant reaction shot when Amrita hugs Vikram.

Then after everyone dispersed, she told Amrita that she has made arrangements for Amrita's stay at the outhouse. Amrita says she's always stayed at the house. And Dhanuma in a haughty tone says Amrita is by herself now, she wouldn't want any questions from her family--and some other stuff. At this time Aditya pops back in quickly to tell Dhanuma to let Amrita in, she's staying with them. Dhanuma of course doesn't like it one bit, but can't do anything. Amrita smiles and says, I've always considered this my family so there should be no problem. 😆

@bold, exactly, thats why i thought he is not mature and yes agreed to you there is a traces of superiority in him, it was well observed when he made that driver walk from station to villege by saying these people are habitual of that.
Dhanuma seems to be shrewd woman but she is trusted by vik 😲
hazelnut thumbnail
Posted: 13 years ago
#35
Could it be that Aditya is seen as naive in regards to not a lot of people have known this sort of issue is going on in some area(s?) in India (albeit, in a very extreme way)? Maybe he's arrogant and naive as in too shrouded by his childhood - and the acknowledgement and awareness of bednis lives need to be portrayed through his change in beliefs? That something has to be done about this issue?
Maybe through Sugni and Aditya's interactions, we get to see two points of view on the same issue and how change begins to take place in their attitudes, light is shed, etc? They'll have to step in to each other's shoes at some time maybe? (especially him in her shoes... or chappals)

In the beginning, her contradictory actions to what his beliefs are about Bednis will just be dismissed or twisted into alternative bad motives/intentions... but, maybe the more contradictory actions (to being a Bedni) come from her, it'll be harder for him to maintain his original beliefs without questioning them. (I can't help thinking this will happen through seeing Vikram-Sugni's relationship... from what I've read in the articles section, I can't help assuming the same scenario will play out just like in Aditya's childhood - but, the only main thing that's different would be Sugni's unwillingness to be with Vikram like how Adtiya saw in his childhood between a bedni and his father).
Aditya's older now, so more capable of understanding (while hopefully not letting emotions get fully in the way) what he couldn't understand when he was a child if he allows himself to..

He's ruminating on his negative experience as a child, and it might seem the only way he'll change his attitudes is through some emotional experience(s)? I think the more he treats Sugni as dirt, the less human he'll see her as. So there may be something that happens that forces him to, at least, not treat her meanly (maybe Amrita helps with this part).

It'll maybe be a subah for Aditya too 😲 on the pain he's felt since childhood.. (although it disgusts me how he treats her 😭). But, isn't he in the village just to visit? or to stay?

Dhanuma seems to be a force to be reckoned with :O 😈 her influence might perhaps surely work on someone in the future, don't know who :( Maybe Vikram believes in family is family, no matter what they done or how they are 😲

also, is it possible Aditya doesn't know about Vikram's uncle's desires/deeds? Or, he probably just sees it as the Bednis fault the uncle is like that :( as in they provoke the uncle?
Edited by hazelnut - 13 years ago
KhatamKahani thumbnail
15th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail Networker 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 13 years ago
#36
I really don't like even the way Amrita went about in her interactions with the Bednis. In a way even Vikram looks down on the Bednis who do Rai. He doesn't treat them horribly and is more understanding. But they all view it from their moralistic viewpoint.

Amrita, the way she just launched into those questions, and the type of questions she asked--that's not the way to go about it.
hazelnut thumbnail
Posted: 13 years ago
#37
I think Amrita isn't exactly empathetic although she does have sympathy. Coming from the city, maybe she feels she's not bound by the ties and rules of the society (perhaps feeling a little superior too? but not like Aditya)..

But, I agree - she needs to be less obtrusive in her endeavors to make a documentary :( needing to connect with everyone in society and have them open up to their own views would be difficult if she's throwing direct questions like those at them :(

Though, it seems like the documentary may place the rest of the bednis together while Sugni is different.. this might hurt the Bedni community because it'll make them look like they're against Sugni's wishes and actions (from what Amrita is taping in the scenario at the fair).. which they are, well, but...

Agree, and it doesn't seem like Vikram really can do anything alone since his views aren't accepted by the society anyhow. Maybe he just doesn't notice (or I can't think of the right word) them. He has nothing against the Bednis like Aditya has - just neutrality maybe as it's not his problem?
It would be nice if he treated the Bednis higher than how other Thakurs treat them (and also not just neutrally) because his own actions can go a long way rather than him just treating Sugni in a different way.

And, why exactly did Vikram go to the Rai dances and such? Was it just to establish his presence?
KhatamKahani thumbnail
15th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail Networker 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 13 years ago
#38
also, is it possible Aditya doesn't know about Vikram's uncle's desires/deeds? Or, he probably just sees it as the Bednis fault the uncle is like that :( as in they provoke the uncle?

This brings me to his conversation with Sugni at the riverbank. It's ridiculous to go around blaming all the Bednis and say they lure men, and that the Thakurs and innocent. I can understand his hatred of all the Bednis because of his childhood trauma. But that kind of sexist--it's the woman's fault--thinking, that's inexcusable.

I agree that Amrita has sympathy, though perhaps not empathetic. She's from the city. Would she go to sex workers in Delhi and ask it in the same manner? They would run her out. She should know better--even if she's just starting out. Surely she took courses in college, where they tell you how to interact with subjects.

If one's going go in with a moralistic attitude towards these women--and one that's apparent straight away--well they don't take kindly to that, nor should they. She's sympathetic, sure. But she obviously looks down on their profession. And as I said, they won't take kindly to it, nor should they.

And speaking of which, Amrita came off as a Bimbo. If she wanted to shoot a documentary, she should have had some background information and research. Her questions about husbands, etc etc... dumb, ignorant, and offensive.
hazelnut thumbnail
Posted: 13 years ago
#39
I agree - Aditya's behavior is really inexcusable.. it's he who's insulting Sugni and the Bedni tribe and demeaning them 😒. How is he going to make up for this to Sugni in the future?

Right, I don't think Amrita would do this in her own place. ☢️
Also, the way she handled Bamsukia like an independent woman, but what would have happened if she wasn't a guest of Vikram (since he apologized when he found this bit of info out)? It's confusing. :(

I could see a rebel within a community, but someone from outside the culture can't go in and just disregard customs, ways of communication, and what not.

And, apart from all likarsh said, just the fact that Amrita's doing a documentary and carrying around a camera (especially the way she's going about asking questions) - she won't get true responses as it's intrusive and I don't think they would give their permission in documenting their lives if she were to ask for it.

Related Topics

Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".