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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: pallavi25

@ Nikita:
Thats what I meant too...quitting Ekta's shows against her wishes, or ditching her in other words puts actors in deep waters...the stress is on "against her wishes"
Sushant's departure was probably approved by her so she has no ill will against him.


Approved by her? Why would she be happy about her lead actor walking out of the show?😆 Sushant-Ankita were one of the biggest reasons for the show doing so well in those days. It was obvious she tried to hold him back too, same with Zee. There were articles about Zee trying to convince both Ankita and Sushant to stay back. But Sushant CHOSE to walk out. Ekta made snarky remarks about it in the press conference of the leap- Jo TV chhod deta hai, TV use chhod deta hai. 😆 But overall, both she and Zee TV didn't have major grudges since Sushant was professional about it. And that is how it should be. There is a notice period in the contract, as Bonne said. Serve the notice period, break the contract/pay the money and leave.

And that;s what I have been stressing on since the beginning and this is what is my main point. You want to leave the show, LEAVE the show. It's totally your decision, stand by it- you cannot make the world happy. After a point, it doesn't make sense to blame Ekta or the channel or the world. It doesn't work this way. Nope.

And that is all I have to say on this issue. Am done. Phew!
Edited by nikitagmc - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: nikitagmc


Approved by her? Why would she be happy about her lead actor walking out of the show?😆 Sushant-Ankita were one of the biggest reasons for the show doing so well in those days. It was obvious she tried to hold him back too, same with Zee. There were articles about Zee trying to convince both Ankita and Sushant to stay back. But Sushant CHOSE to walk out. Ekta made snarky remarks about it in the press conference of the leap- Jo TV chhod deta hai, TV use chhod deta hai. 😆 But overall, both she and Zee TV didn't have major grudges since Sushant was professional about it. And that is how it should be. There is a notice period in the contract, as Bonne said. Serve the notice period, break the contract/pay the money and leave.

And that;s what I have been stressing on since the beginning and this is what is my main point. You want to leave the show, LEAVE the show. It's totally your decision, stand by it- you cannot make the world happy. After a point, it doesn't make sense to blame Ekta or the channel or the world. It doesn't work this way. Nope.


Leaving Ekta pissed off worked for Sushant because he got a movie role and it clicked at the BO. Not all actors are so fortunate! 😉
Approved by Ekta means she has to AGREE to the actor's departure. If actor quits without her agreement, he may face trouble later on. Most actors dont want to face that kind of trouble especially if they still want to be on TV! Its a question of the actor's career on TV! Do you know the meaning of being blacklisted?
Bollywood ki baat alag hai...there Zee or Ekta dont have any jurisdiction! So they have to accept the success of the actor who makes it big in Bollywood after ditching their TV show.

We also want AshVik to quit PR for the same reasons u want Ankita to quit the show! Because this show sucks bigtime! Bad writing, bad editing and misuse of good actors!

Edited by pallavi25 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: pallavi25


Leaving Ekta pissed off worked for Sushant because he got a movie role and it clicked at the BO. Not all actors are so fortunate! 😉 Pallavi, Ekta being on good terms with Sushant has nothing to do with him being successful in Bollywood. Abhishek Kapoor, director of Kai Po Che called Ekta to ask her about Sushant before finalising him for the movie. In her own words Ekta said, "I am very upset that he quit my serial but he is a good actor and a professional one." That sealed the deal for Sushant and it was THEN that he got the role.
Approved by Ekta means she has to AGREE to the actor's departure. If actor quits without her agreement, he may face trouble later on. Most actors dont want to face that kind of trouble especially if they still want to be on TV! Its a question of the actor's career on TV! Do you know the meaning of being blacklisted? Arey but WHY would she not agree? Cos TRPs will suffer? TRP's would have suffered even if Sushant quit, did she not agree? Then why will she not agree to let Ashvik quit if they are professional in their ways and have been in her good books all along?

And yes, I very much know the meaning of being blacklisted. If the actors are not quitting shows just cos they dont want to get blacklisted, then it means they have clearly made a choice- they don't want to take risks by quitting the show. In that case, I don;t see any reason why Ekta and Zee are then blamed so much in this forum for 'not letting Ashvik quit' when it is Ashvik's own choice to play safe. As I said, she will NEVER let them quit.😆 WHY would she HAPPILY agree to any actor wanting to quit her show? She will grudgingly have to agree though if the actor is adamant. As I said, it ultimately depends on what the actor wants. Beyond a point, you cannot blame the world for the choices you make. Like I don't blame Ekta or Zee TV for not letting Ankita quit and bringing her back to the show every time anyway they want to. At the end of the day it is Ankita's decision to stay for WHATEVER reason- fir chahe role grandmother ka hi kyun na ho.


Anyway I have a feeling we won't be agreeing with each other on this topic so its better to agree to disagree. I wish the best for all the actors of PR.




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Posted: 11 years ago
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Its not just abt Sushant's departure and what Ekta felt about his quitting. If Ekta wont let someone go, they cannot just leave without getting into her bad books! Why would actors want to risk that?
She will not let AshVik quit until she has milked their story dry...they were forced to accept the leap and the aging, werent they? Same as Ankita agreed to age as a grandma but she got compensated by getting the double role of the younger version.
AshVik didnt want to continue after the leap, yet Ekta and Zee "persuaded" them to continue. Now Im sure they will quit as soon as their present contract is over and Ekta agrees to let them leave.
Decision has to be mutual and amicable! All these actors were introduced and groomed by Ekta so they dont want to displease her!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: nikitagmc


Anyway I have a feeling we won't be agreeing with each other on this topic so its better to agree to disagree. I wish the best for all the actors of PR.


😆 Actually Nikita and Pallavi, both of your arguments have validity. There's truth on both sides of the aisle as they say. Ekta has made it difficult in the past, but perhaps she's learning. Some actors have more confidence than others, or even just better luck..timing, extenuating circumstances etc. But, like you say, Nikita, everyone ultimately has to make their own life choices or choose how to react to things that happen outside your control.

So i think - both of you are right ! 😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: naava


😆 Actually Nikita and Pallavi, both of your arguments have validity. There's truth on both sides of the aisle as they say. Ekta has made it difficult in the past, but perhaps she's learning. Some actors have more confidence than others, or even just better luck..timing, extenuating circumstances etc. But, like you say, Nikita, everyone ultimately has to make their own life choices or choose how to react to things that happen outside your control.

So i think - both of you are right ! 😃


Naava, RD and Asha had both announced they were quitting at the leap, remember? But reports said talks were still on with BT and channel. So its obvious they were "persuaded" to stay for a few more months and they had to agree as they didnt want to displease their mentor!

Savita Tayi also announced she was quitting but she was called by Ekta to her office where EK "talked to her" and "convinced" her to stay. But for what? Savita is hardly shown in the serial nowadays!
Ankita also quit earlier this year, didnt she? The coma period when her replacement was also announced. But Ekta managed to bring her back with promise of a younger role!
So Yes, Ekta still gets what she wants!
If I told u all the scary stories I heard abt EK...😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: naava


😆 Actually Nikita and Pallavi, both of your arguments have validity. There's truth on both sides of the aisle as they say. Ekta has made it difficult in the past, but perhaps she's learning. Some actors have more confidence than others, or even just better luck..timing, extenuating circumstances etc. But, like you say, Nikita, everyone ultimately has to make their own life choices or choose how to react to things that happen outside your control.

So i think - both of you are right ! 😃



Naava, a very important point to be kept in mind is that Ekta simply does not have the influence or power to destroy ANY actor's TV career now. 10 years ago, HECK YES! But not now. Cos 10 years ago almost all the successful shows on all channels were her shows. She made shows even for MTV!

But today, she has what? Hardly one show on every channel or not even that. She is not even on top of the TRP charts. Popular actors are picked up by other channels. Didn't Ashvik get so many offers? They will get other serials.

Yes, Pallavi made a valid point that the decision to discontinue with the show must be amicable, the way Sushant did it. I totally agree with it, and I believe Ashvik are absolutely right if they decide to work things out amicably and quit when the time is right. What I DO NOT get however, is the whole forum blaming Ekta and Zee TV for Ashvik having to continue with the show and calling it unfair and cursing them. The actors can quit if they want to, but here it is the CHOICE of the actors to continue and quit amicably later, keeping in mind THEIR OWN benefit, their own safety net and not risk relations with the production house, for which they will be duly rewarded in time if they manage to quit on amicable terms, I'm sure they must be getting handsome paycheques already for playing elder roles after the leap. Why are Ekta and Zee TV blamed for even this CHOICE made by the actors is something I cannot fathom. That is what I meant to say by the fact that yes, Ekta does keep grudges and all that, but she has mellowed down, and beyond a point you really cannot blame others for the decisions of your life.

Anyways that is my take on the whole situation.
Edited by nikitagmc - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: pallavi25


Naava, RD and Asha had both announced they were quitting at the leap, remember? But reports said talks were still on with BT and channel. So its obvious they were "persuaded" to stay for a few more months and they had to agree as they didnt want to displease their mentor!

Savita Tayi also announced she was quitting but she was called by Ekta to her office where EK "talked to her" and "convinced" her to stay. But for what? Savita is hardly shown in the serial nowadays!
Ankita also quit earlier this year, didnt she? The coma period when her replacement was also announced. But Ekta managed to bring her back with promise of a younger role!
So Yes, Ekta still gets what she wants!
If I told u all the scary stories I heard abt EK...😆


Yes, i know these were what happened with the actors you have mentioned. I guess there are two sides to that coin. I don't have any respect for how Ekta handles her shows and the disrespect she sometimes shows the actors, but at the same time, a lot of these people do in fact owe their popularity to the exposure they received from being in PR. So it's kind of a catch 22. But good actors can bide their time, and hopefully be wise with how they write their contracts so that a situation that is not ideal can be waited out or done in a way so that everyone saves face. I am not sure Ekta can get away with blacklisting any longer.

I honestly don't know why Ankita signed on again, but she did and it was her choice and I will respect that. and it seems to be turning out well for her. Archu was the lead character that Ekta also liked so it worked.

There are other actors for whom staying past the optimum time is not a good deal and Soham (Ankit) is one of them among others. (Puru Chibber comes to mind as well). I think this was a bad move for Ankit and I really hope he can shake the way that Ekta used him. The same goes for Asha and RD. They do owe Ekta for their exposure and they handled it professionally. They as actors also wanted to see closure on the role of the characters out of respect for the viewers who have given them the adoration and popularity. They have said this in interviews. I really believe that is among the reasons why they might have signed on again...bad story lines DO affect the lingering affect on the actors. I think there was a promise to restore the characters to what they were.. whether this will happen and Ekta will honor it remains to be seen. I have a strong feeling she does not like their characters. As a writer i know that if a creator turns against a character she/he has created, there will be no consistency and no logic for the actions of the character. This is all too obvious in the case of ARVI. Perhaps she is jealous of their popularity both as actors and as ARVI. It happens. But if she doesn't correct her mistake, the harm is only to her reputation not to theirs, as they have earned in their own right, the respect in the industry. As a producer she has a responsibility to bring to fruition that which she created and she can do it or blow it. It's up to her.
Edited by naava - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Pavitra Rishta may be wrapping up in a few months. The show, which was among the top 10 shows a year ago, saw many changes in the last few months. It recently went through a time leap prompting some of the main actors to quit.

Now, we hear, the channel is planning to bring it to an end. Says a source, "The show has been running for the last four years and has also crossed 1000 episodes, but how much more can one stretch it? The story has to end some day. Also, there is a possibility of producer Ekta Kapoor getting another show in the same slot."

Edited by Mayur44 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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...wow..I thought I was reading posts in this forum that said the TRPS were going to sky rocket to mars after leap
So The rocket lost velocity and is vast approaching crash landing I suppose?

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