Is Sperminator for real? - Page 7

Originally posted by: MayurSidma

True say. First, he shows up at her house instead of staying at a hotel. It is her home not a dharmshala, ke jab chahe mooh utha kar chale aaye. And staying with his ex-wife really? Just a stupid idea to begin with.

Then at the hospital, this guy had some nerve yelling at her. For him, its all me, myself and I. After Ovi came out of the incubator room, he doesn't ask her about how the baby is doing now, nope. He was just busy expressing his anger about how it would affect his life. His life would be khatam. Oh God, how selfish can a person get? And then he has the audacity to say that he nor anyone in the family would forgive her. Not that she needs anyone's forgiveness, because we have all seen how much her family and her ex-hubby care about her feelings, but also because they themselves have done far worse things. Arjun shouldn't be the one to talk after he betrayed Ovi by keeping Purvi a secret and then doing the engagement with no intention of marrying her. He then hid Pari's truth when it came out, until his ass was on the line. He claims he had tried working on their marriage. Apparently, trying to talk to your wife when she is drinking in order to forget the betrayal of her husband and cope with the loss of the baby is called trying best to save marriage. As is keeping tabs on ex's husband and leaving all kaam dhanda to personally spy on him and give reports to the ex.

I don't know why Ovi just wasn't firm with him, telling him she didn't need him in her life and that she could handle the baby herself. Arjun displayed no love for the baby whatsoever. When he held the baby today, all he said was that Pia was his responsibility. No wonder Ovi didn't tell him, he wasn't even happy to know that he had another daughter out there. Just worried about how the daughter would affect his equation with Purvi. And when Ovi told him to return to his grihasti with Purvi like it never happened, he says that no Purvi should know. Where was this need for full disclosure when he was always hiding stuff from Ovi in their marriage. I don't think he should have lied to Purvi, but just pointing out the double standards of this guy. It's ok to lie to Ovi but not Purvi. People would understand his PMS with Purvi and Pari's birth but they wouldn't understand about Pia.

Originally posted by: ambolove

Arjun is saying sab khatam hogaya but he was already a father to ovi's first child. If that first child had lived how would he have handled his responsibilities then? His first priority is to make sure the child is okay. Second priority to tell his wife instantly the truth.

Ovi is happy without him, so why does he act like as if he's such an important person in her life? Why does he act like as if she 'needs' him? Like she can't do without him?

No Ovi is doing perfectly well without him!

I understand that he has some responsibility towards Pia.
Therefore his priorities are: Pari, Pia and Purvi.

Not Ovi. There is absolutely no excuse for him to shout at Ovi. She is responsible for her own self, an adult who knows her own mind and she is NOT in a relationship with him.

No reasons for them to get back with each other whatsoever.

Arjun should see it as one more addition to his ever expanding family. That's all there is to it.

Originally posted by: nikki1591

he's yelling bc she never told him about the pregnancy. if she had, he would not have gotten divorced. i remember pre-pari revelation, things were going well between them. yes he may have loved another but a lot of arranged marriages start out that way (when parents dont agree to the child's liking) and eventually the love develops. and if then they couldnt make things work, then at least everybody would have known about the circumstances. these 2 girls had no right to hide the child from him. they didnt create the child on their own. ovi may be doing fine w/o him but how will pia bear w/o a father? it is not just an expanding addition. its a child who lives a continent away from.a child who he has w/ his ex wife while his current one is pregnant. how much simple it would have been had all this been told before arvi marrige. ovi is not in a relationship w/ him but she was when she became pregnant. she messed up his life by not telling him she was pregnant. now he has to deal with a huge mess. how is he supposed to tell his current pregnant wife that he had a child w/ his exwife. where will the child live? with whom will she live? how they will explain this to society? yes he may have had sex willingly but if no one is telling you they are carrying your child, are you just supposed to assume that they are pregnant? if someone had hidden your child from you just bc they wanted to be happy and not create problems in your life, wouldnt u be mad. that is your child and no one has the right to take that away from u. i dont care if u have carried the child for 9 mnts bc u didnt create the child alone. a father is just as important as a mother and no one has that right to take that away from u w/o a very good reason. both purvi and ovi are 2 dumbasses who like to take decisions for others and take away the right of a father to know their child.and thats that

Originally posted by: ambolove

Dear this is why there is such a thing as protection. Now don't tell me people in India don't know about protection! Indian is the capital of Kama sutra. They know a thing or two about sex!

And arjun Ovi studied abroad where they would have easily came across advertisements on protected sex. Including the day after pill! Forget the day after pill, there's a month after pill too!

Let's say pavitra rishta was portrayed in 2011, we had a 20 year leap (don't know exactly when last leap was) so currently we'd be in 2031!

Protection would have advanced leaps and bounds by then!
And arjun wouldn't know anything about it?? Even after being so comfortable with doing it?

Let's just say purvi and Ovi wanted a kid by him and manipulated him, well let me tell you one thing, here in the uk many women use deception to get pregnant.

It's then up to men to take the responsibility for their own sperm! Do they want a child? If not do they use protection? If not do they want to sleep with the woman and take a risk? If yes, will he withdraw at the right time.

You here so much about teenage pregnancy here and trust me if he had studied abroad he would have come across same news day in an day out.

He should have learnt from all of that, unprotected sex, deception, that kind of thing and then he would have been in a much better position.

Everyone knows if you have unprotected sex there's all possibility that the woman will have a pregnancy. Especially if you are shooting your sperm inside her! That's the reason you shoot sperm into a female! To reproduce or whatever, evolution ect.
Arjun knows that and should have asked her to take a test if it was such a problem for him.

Pregnancy tests are everywhere these day, I'm sure in 2031 they'd be even more advanced.

I'm a female but if I was male and didn't want a girl pregnant I'd make sure that I protect my love potion from her 100% no doubt. You can't expect a woman to look after someone else sperm. It's his responsibility not mine!

Originally posted by: miklyway

when arjun was found 2 timing ovi and pari then manav gave him some big tight slaps. i wonder that if the new guy does the same with pia and pari then will arjun have any right to even raise a finger in front of his face. that guy can easily throw arjun's past on his face and do total kachra of him. how will arjun save his own izzat from getting stripped by his son in law, forget about saving his daughters. womanizers and chauvinists deserve to have daughters only because then only they will understand what they have done to other girls and their fathers

Originally posted by: ambolove

im not saying that he doesnt have a responsibility to wear protection. but he slept with ovi w/ ht intention of making things work not leaving the next day. and the responsibility to make someone aware that u r are pregnant relies on the female. unless arjun saw ovi everyday, he would not know that ovi would have become pregnant. u cant expect a male to assume ur just pregnant if u dont see eachother unless u tell them. if u have sex and the girl doesnt tell u anything, then u just assume that she is not pregnant.

Originally posted by: tejaswiniwenham

see there is something i have been meaning to ask people that I just dont really get about some of the reaction to ovi-arjun situation (i say ovi arjun situation because this situation with pia doesnt involve purvi).

2.) Many have said that Arjun is angry because he was deprived of the joy that pia brings. i don't really know what they based that off. as far as i could tell, arjun was upset that ovi left him and now this makes his relationship with purvi complicated. he was upset that somehow ovi ruined both of their lives by leaving him (idk about other ppl, but ovi defo has been a much happier person since she left him. delusional man.) Not once was pia mentioned by him. nor was it mentioned how he was worried about the child. only that he felt responsible for the child. there was no affection in the equation- unless i missed something of course, so no idea where ppl are getting that.

3.) how many people in the forum would have had a bhukh hartal if ovi had told him about the pregnancy? then why are people upset that she didn't tell him? i think pallavi wrote somewhere that ekta never planned to unite arvi but did it for the fans. now why are the fans upset at ovi for letting arvi get married. arjun said it himself- he would have never left ovi if he knew she was preggers. so isnt it better that she didnt tell him before? and she didnt call her daughter kirloskar btw. the paper purvi saw wasnt a birth certificate. it was a hospital registration form that either arjun or ovi filled out after the truth was out.

4.) how is anything that happened between arvi ovi's doing? she didnt plan anything. she didn't ask anything of arjun. in fact she just allowed him to yell (which i think was the only pathetic behvior on her end. she should have curtly and promptly asked him to leave.) why would his married life ever be a reason for him to yell at ovi? she's not his mistress creating problems between him and wife. they are essentially two completely unrelated people sharing a child. arjun has no right to exert what so ever.

5.) there are many children who grow up between two parents living in different continents. i did. for a child this young, the mother would always get the custody. arjun can have visitation now that he knows. i personally feel, a lot of people growing up in nuclear families have this misconception that kids with separated parents have tonnes more issues than they really do. as long as the parents aren't aweful to each other and don't pass on their issues to you, its a better solution than being in a loveless home where both are miserable. then why would pia go wrong if she was raised by her mum with her dad visiting occasionally? infact i had many friends in boarding school and college who have 80s parents and were results of one night stands. some never even met their dad and they are all well-balanced incredible people.theres nothing wrong in that. im sure they get curious but its not life and death as is portrayed in movies, fiction and tv. remember fiction is written about the unusual, not the norm. if arovi worked out, was arjun gonna discard pari? no! she'd b in the same position as pia. so whats the big deal?

Originally posted by: nikki1591

2) he mentioned that he has a responsibility to pia. what is that responsibility to pia. to be a father to this child. what does being a father mean? it means loving a child, taking care of it, etc. and i think hes getting over the shock of having a child. w/ the pari revelation he already knew he was the father, only the mother changed. w/ pia he still processing everything.

3) ovi and arjun are both responsible for this child. they both bear the responsibility. ovi had sex w/ the intention of leaving while arjun did so w/ the intention of making it work. i dont care if they didnt get married @ the end. i care about the fact that she hid this truth from a parent. hiding the existence of someone childs is one of the most dispicable acts. ovi had no reason to hide this except for her own happiness. did she think about how her child would feel growing up w/o a father. (same goes for purvi)

4) of course she created a problem. she hid the truth from him and allowed him to get married to purvi thinking that there was nothing left in his marrriage to ovi. and all this time there was a child. this creates problem for any couple when a baby just appears out of nowhere and it belongs to one half of the couple. it didnt matter if it occured before hand, what mattered was that she kept the fact hidden. arjun does have right. HE IS THE FATHER OF THIS CHILD. HE IS NO LESS IMPORTANT THEN THE MOTHER. just bc they are not together does not mean he has no rights on HIS child. and if we are saying that this child has bearing on arvi marriage, then pari should not have any bearing on arovi marriage bc purvi was fiance @ the time and did nothing wrong. she also never asked anything of him regarding the child. the only problem that ovi should have had was the switching of the child.

5) i said this before. children who grow up w/o both parents present have problems that arent always obvious. everybody expects children of divorce to be alcoholics or display act of obvious disturbance. but these children have problems that are not so obvious. they can function outwardly, but emotionally they are very insecure. the sadness that lingers from having an absent parent is always there but it may not be obvious. and it affects u more when u grow up bc thats when u realize what u lost out on. i have friends who are fully functioning adults but they definely have relationship issues that stems back a lack of both parental involvement. i myself didnt grow up in a nuclear family and i can definately see some effects. also growing up across the country bc ur parent needs to work to provide for u or better ur life is diff than living apart bc ur parents couldn't handle each other. its great that it worked out for u. but every 1 person who turns out normal, there is a 100 who don't. its like saying she made it as an actress, why couldnt u. it wouldnt have mattered if pari had been in pia position, the diff would be that the truth was beforehand so everyone was well aware of the decisions they were making. even if the outcome is the same, the process to getting there matters too. its liek if u become sucessful in school or buisness. how u got there makes a difference. whether u were honest or cheated and decieved ur way through, will affect how people will remember the situatuon. if anything if ovi had revealed the truth, then onir would have been the father figure to pari and even if she didnt have her bio father, the presence of a man who loved her just as much would have reduced the effect of having a broken family.