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Posted: 12 years ago
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Perhaps he never really fancied Ovi? Ever thought about that?
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: asharithvik

That is because he NEVER loved Ovi!!
Why don't you people understand this?
Love is crazy, when that love could change a workholic man into a lover boy who could even become a mechanic to have her..this is nothing for him!
He never loved ovi, and this he shouted so many times to them in canada but nobody ever listened him!

If ovi would have understood this earlier what she understood now, she would have been happily married with someone!
And yea, purvi before his employee is his lover and ex-fiance!



So true !! And he's romantic when around Purvi. Rather HAPPY when with her. Ovi just made him sulk and brood. Thanks to her horrible approach towards everything 🤢
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Posted: 12 years ago
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dying to see how happy he is when Purvi dumps him second time and goes to Onir with Archana's convenient blessing😉
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Laila2009

Perhaps he never really fancied Ovi? Ever thought about that?



Maybe when one becomes an adult, fancying someone is not a requirement to be considerate.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

dying to see how happy he is when Purvi dumps him second time and goes to Onir with Archana's convenient blessing😉



Dream on 😉
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: ameilia

Arjun tried to make his marriage work.

Arjun compliments Ovi she doubts him.
Arjun praises her publicly and private she questions his motives.
Arjun tries to take care of Ovi she again thinks its not for her but for their baby.
Arjun buys her gifts Ovi again doubts him.
Arjun tries to make Ovi happy she gets furious because he isnt doing it for her he is doing it for Purvi.
Its not Arjun's fault Ovi wanted his body,his heart and soul.She got his body but couldnt claim his soul nor could win his heart.
What more can u want from a guy who repeatedly told u he didnt love you.U no comprendo Ovi??
As a wife Ovi gave Arjun misery so why is Arjun the only one who is obligated to make her happy??She ever made him happy?So Ovi...



So True.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: pallavi25


Thanks Pallavi. Great response! Thanks for telling me about the other serial. PR is the first serial I have watched - so I learned something new about Ekta serials.
I totally agree especially with the highlighted part. Of course, complex characters with faults - Othello comes to mind - are more interesting to watch. (That is why even though I do not like the Arjun-Purvi track as developed now, I have no problems with them as characters.) And the whole thing about not sticking to traditional morality would be OK if it was not being associated with totally traditional and cliched expressions like "eternal love," "true love," "Pavitra Rishta" etc. After all social mores have changed. But if the cliched expressions are going to be used, then we better stick with the kind of moral values associated with them.

Further, the same non-traditional modern thinking would lead us to see that love does not happen only once. Any psychologist will say that much. Not that people should run around having affairs. But if a person finds a caring partner, human heart does respond to care and love. So, this mix up created by non-traditional life style with use of totally traditional values like - "sacrifice" (very confusingly defined), "pure love," "eternal love" etc. leads to criticism by viewers of my type (or may be it is only me).

Thanks for a great post and taking time to respond.


Thanks for your response! 😊
Yes, flawed central characters are more interesting to watch, as the great example you have given of Othello. Hamartia or fatal flaw in character drove the hero towards his own destruction in Greek tragedies.
I think the term Pavitra Rishta is used more for Archu and Manav than Arjun Purvi, isnt it?
I agree that people can love again, first love is not full and final. If Ovi was the least bit mature, if she understood and respected Arjun, if she gave him space and let his memories be in their own place, she could have and would have made a place for herself in his heart. Basically, Arjun is a very needy person, he lost his mother early and had an indifferent father. So it would not have been difficult for a caring, loving woman to win his heart again. But problem is, Ovi herself was needy and insecure, immature. How can one needy person fulfil the needs of another one? Thats why there was no chance for their marriage to survive.

Thanks Pallavi.

I agree about Arjun being needy because he lost his mother as a child. I also agree to a great extent about an insecure person not being able to fulfill the emotional needs of another needy person.

But if we can be sympathetic to Arjun for being needy, why can't we extend the same sympathy toward Ovi's character? She too grew up without proper mothering. And she saw in Arjun the anchor for all her need for love. I am not saying that just because Ovi saw Arjun in that light, Arjun has to reciprocate. That would be absurd. But he did give her hope -
Ovi's deal offering (though admittedly wrong) was out of desperation. And he did add to her insecurities by constantly day-dreaming about Purvi. May be it was out of his control. But what I do not understand is lack of sympathy for Ovi among some of us.

And Purvi is not without her insecurities either. She too never had a full family growing up. Her irritating need to meddle in others' affairs can be understood at some level as her efforts to belong. And in that I am with her. But again, if her meddling is out of a desire to belong, why can't Ovi's irritating behavior be seen as another manifestation of insecurity deserving sympathy rather than labeling as villainy?

And lastly, my earlier point about human heart responding to love and care. Even if we say that because Ovi was not loving and caring, Arjun-Ovi marriage did not succeed, what about Onir? He did care for Purvi and gave her a lot of space. How come she did not respond? And why is it that now Onir is held responsible for his pain? Too bad, you are caring?

My only point is that if we are going to be sympathetic to these fictional characters, let us be fair and be equally sympathetic to them all. .
Edited by muse10 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: muse10


Thanks Pallavi.

I agree about Arjun being needy because he lost his mother as a child. I also agree to a great extent about an insecure person not being able to fulfill the emotional needs of another needy person.

But if we can be sympathetic to Arjun for being needy, why can't we extend the same sympathy toward Ovi's character? She too grew up without proper mothering. And she saw in Arjun the anchor for all her need for love. I am not saying that just because Ovi saw Arjun in that light, Arjun has to reciprocate. That would be absurd. But he did give her hope -
Ovi's deal offering (though admittedly wrong) was out of desperation. And he did add to her insecurities by constantly day-dreaming about Purvi. May be it was out of his control. But what I do not understand is lack of sympathy for Ovi among some of us.

And Purvi is not without her insecurities either. She too never had a full family growing up. Her irritating need to meddle in others' affairs can be understood at some level as her efforts to belong. And in that I am with her. But again, if her meddling is out of a desire to belong, why can't Ovi's irritating behavior be seen as another manifestation of insecurity deserving sympathy rather than labeling as villainy?

And lastly, my earlier point about human heart responding to love and care. Even if we say that because Ovi was not loving and caring, Arjun-Ovi marriage did not succeed, what about Onir? He did care for Purvi and gave her a lot of space. How come she did not respond? And why is it that now Onir is held responsible for his pain? Too bad, you are caring?

My only point is that if we are going to be sympathetic to these fictional characters, let us be fair and be equally sympathetic to them all. .



I completely agree with you muse. It really confuses me that one moment Ovi is called words like obsessive and clingy because she too desired love as she did not have a mother growing up.

Yet when Arjun is viewed like that, he is called a victim. Oh poor needy Arjun. He gets sympathy for being needy because he didn't have a mother growing up. So it's okay for him to latch on to Purvi.

However, Ovi who also did not have a mother growing up is hated all because she latched on to Arjun and dared to come between the precious Arjun and Purvi.


Same goes to Onir. It is said that Ovi was a horrible wife to Arjun. She always wanted more and more from Arjun, never let him breathe, possessive, clingy, psychotic..bla bla you know the rest.

Then how come Onir is still criticized for being a patient husband. He too loved Purvi but gave her room, never forced, was patient with her. How come he is still blamed for his own misery?!

This is the double standard that leaves me confused. In MY opinion, the biggest reason Onir and Ovi are villianized is because they dared to come in between the "amar premis" Arjun and Purvi and their physical chemistry. Yet it is conveniently forgotten that these so-called lovers did not even fight one bit for their own love. Again, this is MY opinion.
Edited by ChemistryMajor - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: ChemistryMajor



I completely agree with you muse. It really confuses me that one moment Ovi is called words like obsessive and clingy because she too desired love as she did not have a mother growing up.

Yet when Arjun is viewed like that, he is called a victim. Oh poor need Arjun. He gets sympathy for being needy because he didn't have a mother growing up. So it's okay for him to latch on to Purvi.

However, Ovi who also did not have a mother growing up is hated all because she latched on to Arjun and dared to come between the precious Arjun and Purvi.


Same goes to Onir. It is said that Ovi was a horrible wife to Arjun. She always wanted more and more from Arjun, never let him breathe, possessive, clingy, psychotic..bla bla you know the rest.

Then how come Onir is still criticized for being a patient husband. He too loved Purvi but gave her room, never forced, was patient with her. How come he is still blamed for his own misery?!

This is the double standard that leaves me confused. In MY opinion, the biggest reason Onir and Ovi are villianized is because they dared to come in between the "amar premis" Arjun and Purvi and their physical chemistry. Yet it is conveniently forgotten that these so-called lovers did not even fight one bit for their own love. Again, this is MY opinion.


Thanks ChemistryMajor!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: PandorasBox



Maybe when one becomes an adult, fancying someone is not a requirement to be considerate.


It has nothing to do with age; he didn't want to be with her, he had not feelings for her - meaning he didn't fancy or like her in that way that he wanted to be with her.

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