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Posted: 12 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: PandorasBox



That is clearly not the same thing.

Ovi loved Arjun, she slept with him. That's simple enough. If you love someone, it is natural you would want to sleep with them. Plus he was her lawful husband.

But what was Arjun's excuse?

It is more acceptable to sleep with someone you love but doesn't love you then it is to sleep with someone you do not love.

Arjun cannot be justified in any shape or form. Any relationship he will enter jenceforth will forever be jaded.


Arjun loved Purvi and he promised Purvi that he would keep Ovi happy and try to make his marriage work. So he slept with Ovi! Besides he was Ovi's "Lawful Husband!" And that does involve sleeping together. 😆 Since Ovi wanted to because she supposedly "loved" him...he obliged her.
If Ovi really loved Arjun, why did she treat him so shabbily during their marriage? She married him knowing he loved Purvi, then why those jealous outbursts all the time? How did she plan on controlling his thoughts after marriage? 😆
Edited by pallavi25 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#62
What is acceptable to one person may not to be another. It's all about perspective. No one is wrong because everyone has their own perspective.

I agree with Pallavi Di tht Ovi slept with Arjun knowing he loved Purvi. She even slept with him after she figured out the pari situation. Emotions are just emotions. People lose sight in moments when emotions are running high.

I don't blame ovi for sleeping with him nor do I blame Arjun for sleeping with her. It is what it is. And personally they're bigger issues here between the couple than sex.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Yes, all 3 characters are needy and insecure in their own way. Arjun, the tough, heartless businessman fell in love with Purvi and became a softie! He became clingy and needy, all his emotional needs, supressed since Aashna's death, came to the forefront and he became putty in Purvi's hands, hence agreeing to her insane demand to marry Ovi!
Purvi's overcompensating nature, her OTT gratitude and sacrifices for Archana and by default the extended family of Deshmukhs, is a result of being brought up by a single mother who was constantly yearning for her actual family, for her husband and bio children all those years! Purvi felt inadequate all her life, so shes always trying to make up for not being Archu's bio kid.
Ovi, deprived of her biological mother, brought up by the selfish and greedy Savita, inherited her grandma's traits, primarily a blindness to other's happiness. She inherited Savita's avarice, selfishness, greedy grasping nature! Perhaps she did love Arjun in a way but as a toy, a possession, an object that she imagined belonged to her! Thus she treated Arjun like trash after marriage, constantly abusing him verbally, raging at him, accusing him of emotional infidelity. Well, what did she expect? She married him knowing he loved Purvi, didnt she?
So you see, Arjun and Purvi also had flaws but they did not knowingly harm others, instead they sacrificed their own happiness, Purvi sacrificed for Archu's sake, Arjun did it for purvi's sake.
But Ovi knowingly hurt others, especially the man she claimed to love! She was rude to elders, used emotional blackmail and resorted to suicide attempts to get what she wanted! Her list of crimes is so long that it overtakes any pity I would have felt for her for being a motherless child brought up by that termagent Savita!
As for Onir and Purvi, she never treated him like Ovi treated Arjun. No way! 😆 She was affectionate towards him but she didnt love him! Same as Arjun with Ovi. It was only after Onir started behaving strangely on purpose that she started suspecting him. So that comparison is not really valid.
There are many scenes in Kolkata and Mumbai where Purvi and Onir seemed like a perfectly happy couple. Not like Ovi and Arjun where Ovi was drinking and cursing Arjun for "thinking" abt Purvi.



YES they did!!!

1) Purvi KNOWINGLY hurt her mother, Archana, when she had pre-marital sex. That was a slap in the face of Archana's upbringing that the mother and daughter gloated about.

2) Purvi KNOWINGLY hurt Arjun when she insisted that he marry Ovi. She was aware of his love for her yet pressured him to marry her.

3) Purvi KNOWINGLY hurt Arjun and both Ovi again when after one month of Arjun/Ovi wedding Ovi wanted to leave Arjun, she pressured him again to stay in this marriage. She KNEW their marriage wasn't going well but she still emotionally manipulated Arjun. And Arjun was dumb enough to go along with it AGAIN.

4) Purvi KNOWINGLY hurt Ovi when she took away her right to mourn her dead baby.

5) Arjun KNOWINGLY hurt Ovi when he went back and begged Ovi to stay with him one month after Ovi wanted their marriage to end.

6) Arjun KNOWINGLY hurt Ovi when he lied to Ovi about her baby being dead OR as you like to say "he hid the truth".

Just because Arjun and Purvi are painted as saints doesn't mean their actions were ever good. Arjun and Purvi's ACTIONS have always spoken against their WORDS. Again, this is all my opinion.
Edited by ChemistryMajor - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: pallavi25



Yes, all 3 characters are needy and insecure in their own way. Arjun, the tough, heartless businessman fell in love with Purvi and became a softie! He became clingy and needy, all his emotional needs, supressed since Aashna's death, came to the forefront and he became putty in Purvi's hands, hence agreeing to her insane demand to marry Ovi!
Purvi's overcompensating nature, her OTT gratitude and sacrifices for Archana and by default the extended family of Deshmukhs, is a result of being brought up by a single mother who was constantly yearning for her actual family, for her husband and bio children all those years! Purvi felt inadequate all her life, so shes always trying to make up for not being Archu's bio kid.
Ovi, deprived of her biological mother, brought up by the selfish and greedy Savita, inherited her grandma's traits, primarily a blindness to other's happiness. She inherited Savita's avarice, selfishness, greedy grasping nature! Perhaps she did love Arjun in a way but as a toy, a possession, an object that she imagined belonged to her! Thus she treated Arjun like trash after marriage, constantly abusing him verbally, raging at him, accusing him of emotional infidelity. Well, what did she expect? She married him knowing he loved Purvi, didnt she?
So you see, Arjun and Purvi also had flaws but they did not knowingly harm others, instead they sacrificed their own happiness, Purvi sacrificed for Archu's sake, Arjun did it for purvi's sake.
But Ovi knowingly hurt others, especially the man she claimed to love! She was rude to elders, used emotional blackmail and resorted to suicide attempts to get what she wanted! Her list of crimes is so long that it overtakes any pity I would have felt for her for being a motherless child brought up by that termagent Savita!
As for Onir and Purvi, she never treated him like Ovi treated Arjun. No way!😆She was affectionate towards him but she didnt love him! Same as Arjun with Ovi. It was only after Onir started behaving strangely on purpose that she started suspecting him. So that comparison is not really valid.
There are many scenes in Kolkata and Mumbai where Purvi and Onir seemed like a perfectly happy couple. Not like Ovi and Arjun where Ovi was drinking and cursing Arjun for "thinking" abt Purvi.



I agree completely here with Pallavi di. I was going to finish writing my post but she wrote what I wanted to already.

But my main issue is that I feel Ovi's mistakes and issues are just left as mistakes. She's painted white while arvi are always trashed and mocked for their mistakes. I believe all 3 are responsible for this mess. They should all be trashed or all be given some benefit of the doubt. Or maybe just take the lesson to be learned here: be careful what you wish for in Ovi's case and the issues children face when they grow up without a solid pair of parents. There's a lot of lessons here to be learned if one wants.

I had hoped this track would have been given a better ending but it just seems even worse now...



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Posted: 12 years ago
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YES they did!!!

1) Purvi KNOWINGLY hurt her mother, Archana, when she had pre-marital sex. That was a slap in the face of Archana's upbringing that the mother and daughter gloated about.

2) Purvi KNOWINGLY hurt Arjun when she insisted that he marry Ovi. She was aware of his love for her yet pressured him to marry her.

3) Purvi KNOWINGLY hurt Arjun and both Ovi again when after one month when Ovi wanted to leave Arjun she pressured him again to keep his marriage.

4) Purvi KNOWINGLY hurt Ovi when she took away her right to mourn her dead baby. She KNEW their marriage wasn't going well but she still emotionally manipulated Arjun. And Arjun was dumb enough to go along with it AGAIN.

5) Arjun KNOWINGLY hurt Ovi when he went back and begged Ovi to stay with him one month after Ovi wanted their marriage to end.

6) Arjun KNOWINGLY hurt Ovi when he lied to Ovi about her baby being dead OR as you like to say "he hid the truth".

Just because Arjun and Purvi are painted as saints doesn't mean their actions were ever good. Arjun and Purvi's ACTIONS have always spoken against their WORDS.


Oh Yes, But Ovi is a Saint and a Victim! And Arjun and Purvi are the biggest villains of PR! So let the villains marry and settle down in Heaven or Hell!
Ovi the Victim has Sacrificed for them and attained Sainthood! Glory be to her! 😃
Edited by pallavi25 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I agree with your analysis sk11. I think they are all 3 to blame.

However, from my own personal experience on this forum (again, emphasis on MY experience) I have seen Ovi trashed left and right. While I completely agree Ovi DEFINITELY had her faults and mistakes, Arjun and Purvi are right there with her, if not ahead, with their own share of mistakes and horrible decisions.

I also agree that the parental guidance has severely lacked in this entire mess of a storyline.
Edited by ChemistryMajor - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: PandorasBox



That is clearly not the same thing.

Ovi loved Arjun, she slept with him. That's simple enough. If you love someone, it is natural you would want to sleep with them. Plus he was her lawful husband.

But what was Arjun's excuse?

It is more acceptable to sleep with someone you love but doesn't love you then it is to sleep with someone you do not love.

Arjun cannot be justified in any shape or form. Any relationship he will enter jenceforth will forever be jaded.

I am not excusing Arjun for sleeping with Ovi but doesnt that sound selfish to sleep with someone just to satisfy your own agenda.Love should be reciprocated and not demanded.
Arjun may have slept with Ovi to make her happy but clearly that didnt work.
Ovi slept with Arjun because she 'loved' him but loving a person means understanding them.Did she bother to take a step back to think about what are his real feelings?
I am seeing the word 'sleeping' used her instead of love making and that says it all.
Sleeping with someone to seek sexual pleasures doesnt have any emotional attachment here.Love making is an intimate act performed by two persons in love each satisfying the other in a sexual manner.
Arjun slept with Ovi.Never told her he loved her.He slept with her,performed his duties as a husband but never made love to her because he NEVER loved her.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Pallavi 25 - I have a few points to make.

I have never denied that I am an Ovi fan. However, I have NEVER said that Ovi is a saint either. I completely agree with you that Ovi has been quite stupid in the past too.

OH and trust me, I DO want Arjun and Purvi to get married. They deserve each other (you can take this in a good way or bad, doesn't matter).

And I have also said that Arjun and Purvi would gain a lot of respect from me if they ADMIT they love each other, be straightforward about it, and SHOW their desire to get married. Rather than showing it like they are getting married because of family pressure or because of their daughter, if they get married because the love each other, I will respect them a lot more. However, I have yet to see this happen.
Edited by ChemistryMajor - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I agree with your analysis sk11. I think they are all 3 to blame.

However, from my own personal experience on this forum (again, emphasis on MY experience) I have seen Ovi trashed left and right. While I completely agree Ovi DEFINITELY had her faults and mistakes, Arjun and Purvi are right there with her, if not ahead, with their own share of mistakes and horrible decisions.

I also agree that the parental guidance has severely lacked in this entire mess of a storyline.



Yes, it all comes down to perspective. No one is wrong... Everyone just has their own perspective. And that's okay and perfectly fine.

Personally I've seen many threads lately magnifying every arvi move as immoral or outrageous etc and it probably is but I didn't see such outrage of Ovi's moves by the TM of these topics or others but I guess that's my personal perspective. I'm not trying to offend anyone here and nor am I claiming any facts. I'm just stating my opinion from what I've seen. I don't hate ovi. I don't hate anyone really. I just hope we get a fresh storyline soon but I wouldn't hold my breath!

I am looking forward to that new show with pratigias husband kisna I believe? Maybe it'll take me away from PR.
Edited by sk11 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Pallavi 25 - I have a few points to make.

I have never denied that I am an Ovi fan. However, I have NEVER said that Ovi is a saint either. I completely agree with you that Ovi has been quite stupid in the past too.

OH and trust me, I DO want Arjun and Purvi to get married. They deserve each other (you can take this in a good way or bad, doesn't matter).

And I have also said that Arjun and Purvi would gain a lot of respect from me if they ADMIT they love each other, be straightforward about it, and SHOW their desire to get married. Rather than showing it like they are getting married because of family pressure or because of their daughter, if they get married because the love each other, I will respect them a lot more. However, I have yet to see this happen.


Perhaps Ekta wants to show it happen gradually after they get their divorces from their present spouses? Arjun has already exhibited his eagerness to be reunited with Purvi and Pari as a family. Purvi, as a woman, is hesitating for obvious reasons... she feels guilty because of Ovi, and as usual shes trying to be righteous and denying her own feelings!

In today's episode Purvi is ruminating abt Arjun, what a great guy he is, what a perfect father and a wonderful jeevan saathi... Then.Screeech! She puts a brake on her thoughts! Shes started thinking abt Arjun as a life partner but then denying herself again! 😆

Ovi has been downright mean and vicious in the past, not just stupid!
And I have also bashed Purvi in the past for the baby swap! That was totally wrong and misguided, brainless, insane act and equally insane of Onir to carry out her orders!

But her premarital sex wasnt planned so she didnt intentionally hurt Archu...that night it just happened, they didnt plan it! 😆
As for the other instances where Arjun or Purvi hurt Ovi or others, they didnt plan to hurt, their intentions were good but it ended up hurting Ovi.

But Ovi's intentions were not good when she went to Purvi with that nefarious deal. Her intentions were selfish...it was meant.for her own benefit and THAT is the difference!
I never said Arjun and Purvi are saints either, but flawed human beings. They made mistakes, and paid for them!


Edited by pallavi25 - 12 years ago

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