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Posted: 12 years ago
#21
Ovi is the best , bas people blame her al, the time because Arjun is male therefore it's always the girls fault

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Posted: 12 years ago
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I am not going to argue or post more than this.

My point was made by the very nature of all the subsequent talkbacks. Not only were the points I made ignored for the most part but what I wrote about is what happened in the posts that followed

1. Shravani and Sachin were intimate before marriage which was ok with everyone as no one condemns it and all rush to defend Shravani's honor. . Purvi and Arjun also were intimate before marriage and are called many names, dirty cheap immoral illicit..

I don't know who legitimized Shravani-Sachin pre marital sex and derided Arjun-Purvi's. But I will speak for my opinion and say what I really think. In both cases, I condemn it, because I think because of the parents being hasty and irresponsible, it is the children who suffer. In Shravani's case, her fiance died, which is why she gets at least half the sympathy. In Purvi's case, the girl gave up on her fiance on the wedding night. ( This is strictly about Purvi and Arjun, I will not bring Ovi in or her deal. IT is always upon someone to accept or reject a proposal. Ovi was not holding a gun to Purvi's head) So Purvi knowing fully well what has transpired between Arjun and her, did not even give Arjun time to think it through ,or even discuss this with him. She simply ordered him and he followed. What sympathy can a person who makes sure her child does not get the bio dad, get? What happened to Sachin, was not of Shravani's doing. If he had not died, they would have lived happily with Sachin. In Purvi's case, there was no unforeseen calamity, it was a decision taken by her, without consulting any one and being an un-needed sacrificial devi.

Even post the deal, when Ovi declared one month later she was ready to move on, Purvi knew she was pregnant. She should have simply done what would be good for her "child" and gone and had the guts to splurt out the truth. She simply did not give two hoots about the future of her child, and went off alone to Calcutta, not even knowing how she would deal with being pregnant all by herself. Purvi only thought ( according to her supporters) about the welfare of Ovi ( which is stupid, because a mother would always choose her child's welfare over any body else) and according to some of us, she simply ran to save face and a good beating from Archana. Either ways, Purvi was the one who decided the fate of her child. Shravani was beaten by circumstances. What she did by letting Manav agree to marry her, was out of concern for her child. Which is what I think Purvi should have done too. Esp, when Arjun loved her and not Ovi.

Manav also did not make babies with Shravani or marry her. He promised but at the end time, he ran to Archana and broke off his marriage with Shravani. I thought it was really pathetic, but at the same time, it was better that he did not ruin Shravani's life with a loveless and morose marriage and instead took the decision that made sense. Arjun, on the other hand, makes a baby with Ovi, does not evne mourn his dead baby, and instead of being more concerned about his child, is more concerned about romancing purvi. This is why, Arjun - Purvi are looked at with so much disdain whereas Sachin-Shravani are given sympathy. Pari, in spite of having bio parents around, is tossed like candy to who ever is available.

This is just my opinion, not meaning to offend anyone. You had a well-written post, so I wanted to simply reply to that! :)
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Posted: 12 years ago
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also, don't forget that savita married off manav with Archana saying he is a mechanical engineer not a mechanic. The whole problem started off right there.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Great point about how much villains impacted the lives of the leads. I've also said before Punni had her hand in destroying ovi's life with Arjun also.

I disagree that ovi is blamed because she is female. She is blamed for her mistakes as is everyone else is for theirs. I give blame as I see it being played out on screen and leave it at that.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: naava

I understand you love Ovi and identify with her plight. I think she's pretty mixed up and finally getting some maturity. Shruti is an excellent actress to bring Ovi's emotions to the show and make people feel for her.


But I am glad you mentioned Shravani. I would like to ask some questions however.

1.Shravani fell in love with Sachin Sr. and became pregnant with Sachin Jr. before they were married. They wanted to marry but weren't being successful with approval yet so they weren't even close to being married yet. They were lovers. Purvi and Arjun on the night before their wedding became pregnant with Pari.

Sachin has never been called illegitimate even though Shravani and Sachin Sr. were lovers not married.
Pari is called illegitimate so often in the forum (twice in the TM post) even though it was the eve of their wedding.

I am just wondering why the difference. Why is Pari illegitimate and Sachin not?

2. Archana and Manav were married and madly in love when it was thought they should divorce so that Manav could marry Shravani & could take responsibility of Sachin. (He could of course have done that without marrying the mother)

Had they been successful Shravani would have married two brothers. Lots of viewers didn't like the breakup of ARMAN so fought against the divorce and new marriage, yet not one objected because a woman would be married to two brothers.

Yet when Arjun wants to marry the woman he loves and was forced to marry the sister instead (sounds like the Bible story) he is villified for being married to two sisters (at different times of course)

Again, I am curious to know the difference. Why is it ok for Shravani to marry two brothers but not ok for Arjun to marry two sisters. (An ancient custom by the way for most world religions..nothing "modern" as has been suggested in the forum.

3. Puriv's reason for leaving Arjun (which was definitely wrong) were for her mother, and also because she thought that Arjun would be happier with Ovi...that it would be easier for him because Purvi felt she wasn't accepted. So, she did it for her mother's happiness and for Arjun's happiness.

Yet, when Ovi left for Ajrun's happiness but also for her own happiness as she was unhappy in the marriage, Ovi is the heroine and Shravani the heroine ( for the same reasons) but Purvi is the villian. Why the difference?

I try to be fair minded and open. I had sympathy for Shravani and sympathy for Ovi. But when the facts are skewed a bit I felt I wanted to say something.

I'ts ok TM and others to love Ovi and feel her pain. But to do it at the expense of another character's integrity isn't fair imo.






Sachin is illegtimate and so is pari...no one calls sachin illegitimate coz it would just hurt him and none of his parents are here and arman adopted him. I dont think sachin or pari has anything to b blamed for, I agree pari is called illegtimate but it is not meant that pari has any fault in it.
If u compare shravani-sachin & arvi couple they both had sex b4 marriage be it one night b4 or a month b4, it was done b4...thats it. I am personally not against sex b4 marriage if u love each other...but shrav-sach relation was much better than the arvi in the sense tht shravani dd not at the end moment back away frm the marriage(sachin died...none of thm could hv done anything abt it )but purvi did...she shouldnt have taken this step (consummation) if it was so easy for her to give up arjun the next day...it makes no sense. This suggests purvi acted out of lust not love!! Coz ppl cant throw their lovers out of their lives like kaachra and emotinally blackmail them into marrying others. And shravani made the whole family aware of who the baby's biological dad was...Not like purvi who used onir (destroyed his life & career without giving him anything in return) to betray ovi's trust and to use pari like a toy and get back to arjun and to interfere in arovi's life...all her acts were wicked and disgusting!



And the next part that i highlighted...i beg u , please explain how could marrying ovi be hapiness for arjun????. Its the weirdest thing i have ever heard... i mean, arjun himself BETRAYED ovi, broke his commitment to marry ovi coz he was head over heels in love with purvi. Please justify how purvi thought arjun would be haapy after a forcible marriage with ovi rather than purvi?? purvi felt she was not being accepted?? by who??? arjun and DK were thrilled abt arvi marriage...her mom aai aaji and to some extent even her baba were ok with the marrigae...who then, was not accepting her??

I do agree 100% tht ovi was wrong in emotionallyu blackmailing purvi... but if u thing in ovi's POV, then she was told all her life that archu is a greedy woman who left her kids for money...she knew purvi is poor, then is it not natural for ovi to believe punni ( who did many things to gain her trust) when she told ovi tht purvi wants to marry arjun for his wealth only??? she wasnted to save arjun from the pain tht she saw her baba suffer bcoz of archu. she just thought purvi is just as evil and greedy like archu...it was all a misunderstanding, We as viewers know tht neither purvi nor archu r greedy but she had heard tht all her life...
Stilll it was very immature behaviour on her part to marry arjun like a contract...i wont say its all justified. she did make a big mistake...

However, she realised her mistake and has matured and hasa always tried to mend her mistakes...UNLIKE purvi who still doesnt regret anything she has done, still claims to be a sacrificial godess and still preaches how she only wanted everyone's bhalaayi...never has she apologized for jeopardizing sooo many lives!! Ovi has always been up front, straight forward abt her feelings and has been loyal!

Unlike purvi who did everything with chalaaki was never honest with her loved ones...lied to arjun and her mom right on the face even though she claims to love them the most in life...ppl dont lie to their loved ones and play with their emotions...


I know this will be bashed by countless arvi fans...but plz refute my points with logic i dont blindly support ovi, i know she has made mistakes...but its important to realize purvi made mistakes too but tried to hide them behind the title of "mahaanta &bhalaayi" whereas ovi has realized her mistakes, took the blame, apologized and tried her best to mend things tht she ruined...that is the chore difference between ovi and purvi...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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why is that you have to dig in past to justify ovi? a recent episode where archana went to arjun for signing ovi's divorce papers was the best episode in months because whatever she said abt the trio aka arjun purvi and ovi was so right. moreover, if you really want to know what sacrifice means then look at onir. there is a difference in between what ovi did and what he did. ovi didnt leave arjun coz she wanted arjun to be happy with purvi. she left him coz she couldnt accept pari and hence cant handle that truth. she finally realized her folly of marrying arjun by blackmailing purvi and that she can never be happy wid him coz he never loved her.
why is it that some people are so narrow minded? so what if arjun and purvi had sex before marriage. it happens and there is nothing new abt it. they were getting married and they were in love.
so far ovi's concerned, is it arjun's fault that she was not mature enough to see that arjun never loved her and said yes for family. arjun is also at fault for saying yes to marry her in first place. ovi was immature and selfish when she blackmailed purvi in their mother's name to marry arjun knowing fully well how much arjun loves purvi. she is stupid enough not to understand that without love a marriage does not survive, she cant blame anyone for her current situation other than herself. arjun was stupid too to do what purvi told him to.
moreover ovi didnt make it any easier for arjun either thanks to her drinking and whining habit and also her immature behavior.
archu was right abt everything she said when she came to arjun for getting divorce papers signed.

so first try to know what sacrifice is. i am happy that ovi is finally behaving in a mature way. manav is also at fault here for her upbringing coz he fulfilled her every wish and she didnt understand that arjun is not a thing but a person and love cannot be forced or bought.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Onir married purvi and supported her with the knowledge of her pregnancy. Onir made the choice himself to involve himself with pregnant woman and even said that the reason why purvi should marry him is so the child can have his name and it'll make her life easier.

He is a good man with pretty good intentions. However I disagree that sulo should have given her home away to hide purvi AND Onirs mistake of swapping the babies.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: john909

why is that you have to dig in past to justify ovi? a recent episode where archana went to arjun for signing ovi's divorce papers was the best episode in months because whatever she said abt the trio aka arjun purvi and ovi was so right. moreover, if you really want to know what sacrifice means then look at onir. there is a difference in between what ovi did and what he did. ovi didnt leave arjun coz she wanted arjun to be happy with purvi. she left him coz she couldnt accept pari and hence cant handle that truth. she finally realized her folly of marrying arjun by blackmailing purvi and that she can never be happy wid him coz he never loved her.

why is it that some people are so narrow minded? so what if arjun and purvi had sex before marriage. it happens and there is nothing new abt it. they were getting married and they were in love.
so far ovi's concerned, is it arjun's fault that she was not mature enough to see that arjun never loved her and said yes for family. arjun is also at fault for saying yes to marry her in first place. ovi was immature and selfish when she blackmailed purvi in their mother's name to marry arjun knowing fully well how much arjun loves purvi. she is stupid enough not to understand that without love a marriage does not survive, she cant blame anyone for her current situation other than herself. arjun was stupid too to do what purvi told him to.
moreover ovi didnt make it any easier for arjun either thanks to her drinking and whining habit and also her immature behavior.
archu was right abt everything she said when she came to arjun for getting divorce papers signed.

so first try to know what sacrifice is. i am happy that ovi is finally behaving in a mature way. manav is also at fault here for her upbringing coz he fulfilled her every wish and she didnt understand that arjun is not a thing but a person and love cannot be forced or bought.


Excellent post! 👏
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Okay if Arjun emotionally blackmailed purvi for the sake of his mother after having sex the night before
Would he still be glorified ? 🤢 Then wouldn't people say he used purvi both psychically and for his own benefit for his moms happiness
Why the double standards ? And people would blame purvi too for marrying another man without loving him
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Posted: 12 years ago
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There are dozens of serials starting with Balaji's KZK where the hero(Anurag) is emotionally blackmailed by his mother to marry a girl of his mother's choice and he leaves the heroine(Prerna) in the lurch, already pregnant before marriage! The heroine then gives birth to the baby (Prem) out of wedlock and fends on her own or finds another man(Mr. Bajaj) to marry!
Ekta's serials dont run on correct choices and morality. Her shows run on high voltage drama and this melodrama can be created only by misunderstandings between leads, by separations, often forced and contrived! Just like Ovi's deal and Arjun-Purvi's acceptance of that deal and what happened thereafter.
Lead characters make wrong choices and everyone's lives are ruined in the process. But thats how the show is stretched and prolonged for the channel's and PH's benefit and the viewer's frustrated anger and hair loss! 😆

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