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soniiyaa

@soniiyaa

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Posted: 12 years ago

#461

And honestly i agree idk why the supporting cast stay quiet. They do in every desi show. But what I was asking had they said something would you feel different. From what I understood you did not like purvis speech as it was written all about love etc. and you would have preferred it the way you wrote it out.

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 12 years ago

#462

No dear even if Teju and Ovi had talked about past love stories , my reaction would be same . I would have paid credence to the reasoning behind telling Manav to give the signature .

I agree with u about hope and faith for it is what makes one plod on in this difficult journey full of fears and difficulties that pop up at every juncture .

I don't criticise Purvi for speaking up . She SHOULD speak up , she should become thick skinned and speak up . She should make herself heard by an irate and tense Manav . My beef with the CVs is make the other children give their POVs too ...it would have looked better if each child had given his or her POV and Manav would have turned eachone's opinion in his mind and then made his call .

I would perhaps not have come across as cynical if Arjun and Purvi would have refused the deal together . They did not and the rest is history 😆. Still i am not against their union . I am against however Ovi going back to Arjun now ...child or no child .

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soniiyaa

@soniiyaa

Voyager

Posted: 12 years ago

#463

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000
No dear even if Teju and Ovi had talked about past love stories , my reaction would be same . I would have paid credence to the reasoning behind telling Manav to give the signature .

I agree with u about hope and faith for it is what makes one plod on in this difficult journey full of fears and difficulties that pop up at every juncture .

I don't criticise Purvi for speaking up . She SHOULD speak up , she should become thick skinned and speak up . She should make herself heard by an irate and tense Manav . My beef with the CVs is make the other children give their POVs too ...it would have looked better if each child had given his or her POV and Manav would have turned eachone's opinion in his mind and then made his call .

I would perhaps not have come across as cynical if Arjun and Purvi would have refused the deal together . They did not and the rest is history 😆. Still i am not against their union . I am against however Ovi going back to Arjun now ...child or no child .

I loved this post by you. I can agree with you 100% here.

Arvi should have refused the deal. I felt betrayed by purvi at the time. Not because I'm a arvi fan but bc I feel once you fall in love and make that commitment to each other especially having sex, then you should marry that person. I mean Arjun left his name, left everything to prove he deserved purvi after the mishap with him being engaged to Ovi and falling for Purvi. Yet Purvi left Arjun hanging after all of this. That broke my heart especially for Arjun. He didn't deserve that but I guess then you can say it was karma for hurting Ovi. But then one may ask is it wrong to fall in love? Is it wrong to leave a relationship after realizing you're in love with another and cannot take up the responsibility of marriage with the person you're engaged to? Who wants to get into a marriage knowing you're actually in love with another.

How do you feel about that? Not trying to debate but just trying to see what you think.

I feel with Ovi...she knew what she was getting herself into by making the deal. I agree she got her heart broken. But I feel she should have let Arjun go when he made it clear he was in love with Purvi. You can't always have everything you want and perhaps Ovi didn't realize this due to a lack of a mother growing up?

I feel for Ovi that she was wronged when she learned about the swap. I was outraged. But in terms of the whole triangle...I feel she knew...she went into the marriage with eyes wide open. But I guess you have to make the mistake to learn. And I think this is the reason behind her drinking and insecurities because in her heart she knows Arjun will always love Purvi. Whether he shows it or not, she knows.

I blame the parents too. Ovi should have been given tough love when it happend. And when ovi and Arjun weren't working out after marriage, the parents should have gotten involved and perhaps resolved the marriage and separated them maybe? But then things were more complicated with the pregnancy.

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 12 years ago

#464

My thoughts in a nutshell sk11

It is not wrong to fall in love . So long as you are not married , you do have the right to change your mind till the last minute . Exactly how you can change your mind till the last minute before giving up your baby for adoption .

But let me caution those who do it here ...be prepared to be the bad guys when you break a commitment , as the commitment is as serious as this 'love' feeling .

It then becomes a duel between two commitments ... commitment to responsibility and commitment of the heart .

Following the heart in such a case may be deemed as being selfish . But it is most important in life to be honest to oneself , whatever the decision making .

Earlier people were mentally trained to choose the commitment to responsibility first and always . It was not that they did not falter , but their struggle was short lived , they always chose responsibility , the promise of honor they made .

In Arjun's case the responsibility was very great . Rift between 2 families who were fast friends and also a possible rift professionally .

Today , following your heart is praised in serials . It is looked upon as some quality and being selfish is called as being human and hence justified .

Whatever you do ...whichever commitment you choose , be honest to yourself . If you really just cannot make the girl you are forcefully marrying happy , if you are convinced that you will simply fail to do right by her , choose to break off and be the bad guy . At least you will have the satisfaction of not completely destroying a life .

You may be the bad guy temporarily but time , the greatest healer will slowly work its magic .

Arjun was not afraid to be the bad guy . He stolidly took a lot of flak from the Deshmukhs , bore Manav's rightful wrath , accepted it all as he had made a mistake in the matters of the world , in duniyadaari ,but he was honest to the heart . He decided to be the bad guy once and for all with a hung head .

Arjun was different as a character then . He can be criticised but he also commanded respect for his courage to opt to be the bad guy .

Purvi however always shuddered at being the bad one . She was terribly uncomfortable about it always . She wanted to be the golden girl of both the families . She had a strong attraction for this man but the atraction conflicted with her childhood dream of having a family in which she was the golden child .

In the ARVI love story , Arjun loved while Purvi was merely attracted and constantly debating in her mind .

The deal was a mere excuse . She promptly dropped him and opted for her dream . It was terribly unfair to him but she was beyond caring . For her it was a prioritization of dreams , and a perfect family came first .

It was there that Arjun slipped from his pedestal as a honest man . When he curbed the commitment to honesty and listened to Purvi , defied the honest feelings of his heart and went ahead and married Ovi . Weakness for a girl sapped his honest manliness . He started being dishonest to himself to please her .

And he fell , fell and went on falling . He should have NEVER married after the sex . To this day i don't understand WHY he listened to Purvi .

It is vital in life that while you live you r honest till the end to yourself . Both Arjun and Purvi were not .

Ovi paid for her karmic gaffe . She went into this with her eyes open . I can see things from her POV but i can acknowledge that suffering was inevitable in her case .

To be in love is not in one's hands and a helpless gesture in the area of emotions . But even in that area you play by the rules , follow certain principles . The most important principle is being honest to yourself . And ARVI failed there .

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Hillylove

@Hillylove

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Posted: 12 years ago

#465

So, what is the point of this show again.

Two people Manav and Archana in spite of the obstacles they face, come together divorce twice or something. Archana sue her husband for strangers, even though he was trying to uplift their lives,then she gave over their first child to her sister, and there went that child for 18yrs. Then

she believed her MIL who hated her that Manav wants to divorce her (well she did sue him, so I guess her thinking was plausible), then she changes her mind and hurries to the airport but got there too late.

Then she sees a kid whose parents just died in a car accident and takes that kid so fill that void, instead of trying again to reach her kids. I guess that was the only flight to Canada for 18 yrs and it is not a big deal his sister was still in India who she could check with for numbers, updates, photos etc.

So, she raised this little orphan girl, with the belief that she had a family waiting for her, Pappa and all.

Then this wonder foster kid, is supposed to fix all the problems of Archana that she played a big part in creating for herself, but Purvi will never know this, as Archana is supposed to be perfect, and she brought up Purvi to belief she is perfect also. The Dream Team for all men to fix them, make them poor, and bow at their feet.

Archana gets back her family without any apologies she goes scotch free.

Purvi should do all sorts of wrong deeds and go scotch free just like her Mommy.

Only Purvi should have her best friend's son, and her bio children should suffer, get the worse spouses or no spouses, even though it is not their fault, they were brought up without their Mother.

Why? The only Pavitra Rishtas exist between Arman and Arvi, as both have Archana's golden touch.

All of this is PR

Thank you Ekta, for never ever letting me down, to write shows that are cruel, immoral and biased, just to make your point.🥳

Edited by hillydee - 12 years ago

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soniiyaa

@soniiyaa

Voyager

Posted: 12 years ago

#466

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000
My thoughts in a nutshell sk11

It is not wrong to fall in love . So long as you are not married , you do have the right to change your mind till the last minute . Exactly how you can change your mind till the last minute before giving up your baby for adoption .

But let me caution those who do it here ...be prepared to be the bad guys when you break a commitment , as the commitment is as serious as this 'love' feeling .

It then becomes a duel between two commitments ... commitment to responsibility and commitment of the heart .

Following the heart in such a case may be deemed as being selfish . But it is most important in life to be honest to oneself , whatever the decision making .

Earlier people were mentally trained to choose the commitment to responsibility first and always . It was not that they did not falter , but their struggle was short lived , they always chose responsibility , the promise of honor they made .

In Arjun's case the responsibility was very great . Rift between 2 families who were fast friends and also a possible rift professionally .

Today , following your heart is praised in serials . It is looked upon as some quality and being selfish is called as being human and hence justified .

Whatever you do ...whichever commitment you choose , be honest to yourself . If you really just cannot make the girl you are forcefully marrying happy , if you are convinced that you will simply fail to do right by her , choose to break off and be the bad guy . At least you will have the satisfaction of not completely destroying a life .

You may be the bad guy temporarily but time , the greatest healer will slowly work its magic .

Arjun was not afraid to be the bad guy . He stolidly took a lot of flak from the Deshmukhs , bore Manav's rightful wrath , accepted it all as he had made a mistake in the matters of the world , in duniyadaari ,but he was honest to the heart . He decided to be the bad guy once and for all with a hung head .

Arjun was different as a character then . He can be criticised but he also commanded respect for his courage to opt to be the bad guy .

Purvi however always shuddered at being the bad one . She was terribly uncomfortable about it always . She wanted to be the golden girl of both the families . She had a strong attraction for this man but the atraction conflicted with her childhood dream of having a family in which she was the golden child .

In the ARVI love story , Arjun loved while Purvi was merely attracted and constantly debating in her mind .

The deal was a mere excuse . She promptly dropped him and opted for her dream . It was terribly unfair to him but she was beyond caring . For her it was a prioritization of dreams , and a perfect family came first .

It was there that Arjun slipped from his pedestal as a honest man . When he curbed the commitment to honesty and listened to Purvi , defied the honest feelings of his heart and went ahead and married Ovi . Weakness for a girl sapped his honest manliness . He started being dishonest to himself to please her .

And he fell , fell and went on falling . He should have NEVER married after the sex . To this day i don't understand WHY he listened to Purvi .

It is vital in life that while you live you r honest till the end to yourself . Both Arjun and Purvi were not .

Ovi paid for her karmic gaffe . She went into this with her eyes open . I can see things from her POV but i can acknowledge that suffering was inevitable in her case .

To be in love is not in one's hands and a helpless gesture in the area of emotions . But even in that area you play by the rules , follow certain principles . The most important principle is being honest to yourself . And ARVI failed there .

Thank you. I really enjoyed reading your view. You are right on so many things here. I absolutely loved it. I will be checking back into this topic for your commentary!

I really loved the last paragraph about being honest and arvi failed there.

Really, thank you! :)

Edit: i never thought about purvi in that light that she chose her dream over love. You gave me a new perspective about purvi. its true she choose her dream. I guess she was being honest to herself? Perhaps her love just isn't as strong for Arjun.

Edited by sk11 - 12 years ago

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@FireLordPhoenix

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Posted: 12 years ago

#467

Kools your previous post above - 👏! It was brilliant! I miss that Arjun, the one who was honest to himself, honest to others when he took all the flak for loving Purvi. He is no longer that guy and has truly fallen from the person he was. I have no words for Purvi. She never wanted to own up to anything in front of people she had to answer to because she wanted to be perfect, the Golden Girl like you said. She was a coward and still is a coward. Sadly Arjun has now become a coward because of her and Onir is being destroyed in the name of Arvi's love.

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Hillylove

@Hillylove

Dazzler

Posted: 12 years ago

#468

Kools I agree Purvi opted for her dream, a dream that Archana brainwashed this child into believing in.

However, my problem is how callously she went from choosing to be with Arjun in spite of Ovi, and when she sees her chance of actualising her dream as the perfect child, after becoming one with Arjun, she gave Ovi her sloppy seconds without letting her know.

That is the crime of Purvi I can't get over. What was she thinking by asking Arjun to marry Ovi, surpassing the clause of the deal after she knew there was no turning back with Arjun.

She never thought of Ovi when she agreed to marry Arjun and she never thought of Ovi when she decided to make Arjun marry her.

I can't imagine how Purvi could be a good person and do something like this. I can't see her with heart no matter how I try.

When you think about it, if her heart is more for a perfect family than Arjun, what was the haste to marry him in the first place?

Why did she get so carried away and was so anxious to marry, have premarital sex, when it is clear that she is unable to truly love someone herself, if she is so broken, broken from not having that complete family? I could have chalked it down to immaturity, that she was so hasty to be with Arjun, but I can't forgive her for having sex with Arjun and giving him to Ovi, who is supposed to be part of her perfect family.

It is just downright gross, I can't see pass it.

I wish Ovi had asked her how far they went, when she was asking back for Arjun...Yet I know Purvi would have lied, because of how desperate she was to be the golden child.

Arjun on the other hand, I still can't figure out if he should be slapped till he has no face or pitied.

My issue with him, as I have said many times before, is how he never had any apologies in choosing Purvi. He never broke it down to Ovi in the right way. He handled the situation coldly. When he slapped her that was it for me. Arjun is not a nice guy at all. He is cruel and selfish. He could have fallen in love, but I disapproved of the way he handled everything. I disapproved of how he went along with Purvi and married Ovi, and proceeded to treat her like crap out of sheer spite.

I think he purposefully married her to get even with her for the fact that Purvi dumped him for the sake of her family.

If he genuinely wanted to show his sick love for Purvi, he could have treated Ovi better, but he treated her badly, he never even wanted their baby.

My best option would have been for him to not accept Purvi's terms and walk away. I believe when he found out about the deal, he consummated the marriage to get back at her, I think he is capable of doing that.

If he can confess to Onir how he still loves Purvi in one breath and then have sex with Ovi to keep the marriage, he is capable of anything.

However, Arvi are people who care for no one but themselves, and they never see their flaws.

I sincerely hope they reunite, but I also hope I never have to see their faces after that. they are not good people, especially Arjun.

I am still disturbed at how Purvi never allowed Ovi the respect of mourning her baby, and claiming hers is dead, no apologies even once to poor Ovi, yet her daughter Pari is in tact and life will be great soon. I guess Karma is only conveniently given to some people in Ekta shows.

I like Ovi enough that I wish her all the best, she should get her a confident, strong and loving partner and have a great career. She should also stop drinking.

I also hope they show Ovi in Canada only. What is the point of going back to India, all her pain is there, her Mother not caring about her, her Father flip flopping, her hypocritical sister and her now weak Grandmother. Why should she go back to see Archana worship Arvi and everyone happy at their wedding?

Ovi must stay in Canada, and find a good man.

Good luck to Onir, I hope next time, he leaves those confused selfish, single Mothers alone, who are only looking to use men and go back to their exes when all is well.

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Dabulls23

@Dabulls23

Stunner

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Posted: 12 years ago

#469

Nice exchange of posts Kools and SK11... Kools & homie loved your last post abv..👏

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soniiyaa

@soniiyaa

Voyager

Posted: 12 years ago

#470

Originally posted by: hillydee

If he genuinely wanted to show his sick love for Purvi, he could have treated Ovi better, but he treated her badly, he never even wanted their baby.
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Are you saying that Arjun never wanted a baby with Ovi to begin with or saying you felt he didn't want the baby when Ovi was shown pregnant?