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Posted: 12 years ago
Pari dear,

One of your typically excellent and impassioned posts, which rings true all thru.

I was also glad that you were able to separate the actor from the character and appreciate Rithvik's performance, which was very good despite the abysmal script. I have noted the same in my post to my Terrible Trio of mischievous nieces (you, Soumya and Tejaswini) on my CC4 thread.

Why are you so surprised at the way Arjun carries on in his attempts to get Ovi back? He was exactly as I would have expected him to be; he is 'like that only'. Remains to be seen if Ovi cracks up and runs back to him. Your comment about her lack of interest in her own success was very perceptive, and might be a pointer to the future track.

She just might come back, you know, Pari. One can say all one wants that she should not, but she goes by her heart, not her head, and she is miserable right now. If she does, then one can get set for a leap, but I think this will drag on for a bit. I was amused by Purvi trying to sell Arjun the line that she will come back for Pari. Which is the last thing I would expect her to do.

Btw, was that the new Romil?

Shyamala Aunty



Originally posted by: pari87

Guys,


Just saw the episode! So glad to finally see Ovi being strong and doing her own thing..Even though she has ventured out to find the old Ovi, I think being a mother, having a trauma like the one she has suffered and a bad marriage is never going to let her be the same again...Earlier, if someone had lavished that much praise on her, Ovi would have regaled in the glory and been a smug mirror addicted person...But today, despite all the recognition and praise, she remained rooted and glum...this entire past episode of her life, is not letting her move on that easily and she finds no peace even in Canada. Not to forget that her weak husband keeps calling her incessantly to try and win her back...But for WHAT? He is not sure if he loves Ovi, he is not sure if he does NOT love Purvi, he doesn't know jack about what he wants in life, and he just declared that he will give her space and let her heal..so then what is this sudden inundating her with emotional messages for? And what nonsense is he talking about? I miss you, I need you? When she was there, you did not even check to see if she is happy or miserable. You did not care two hoots when she was killing herself over you. you did not glance to see if your wife is alive inside or cared if she died in her drinking pregnancy state, as long as the baby inside her survived. You were very happy riding along this marriage with the comfort she provided and in your own lala land of purvi's yaadien. Every interval in life, you missed purvi, you thought about purvi and you WANTED purvi. So what is this expectation today that Ovi should stand by you in your lowest phase? Why should she? Have you EVER been there for her in her lowest phase? have you ever been there as a friend? Now, that you are suddenly asking her to be yours? For what? And what nonsensical question is why did you leave after that night? Was sex supposed to make everything ok? Dancing in the rain supposed to erase all that you have done? Was being children supposed to dissolve his mistakes as an adult husband or father to her dead child? What is, "your message broke me? I did not expect this from you?". Did you NOT hear a word she said in that message. That message BROKE her, and more than anything you should have felt sorry, disgusted at yourself and remorseful for your actions towards her. Instead you did not EXPECT her to say all that? So what did you expect? Her to be happy with the awesome sex and rain dance (people don't only care for physical contentment in a marriage, if that's what he thought..maybe that's all he took from his marriage to ovi and was content living in with her ) and then come back to the house, serve him fresh tea in the morning, while you wake up, read the paper, go to work, ponder over purvi, reminisce your days in the chawl with her and then bring pari and purvi over and fawn over your love child and your lover in her backless choli while ovi looks on and serves snacks? She is no Onir and it is stupid to expect that of ANY spouse. Ovi should love Pari and keep her like her own daughter, while purvi claims rights on that child every now and then as she deems convenient by saying "humari beti" to arjun, or "meri beti" and also arjun takes her to purvi everytime pari needs a mother. The man has got no thinking skills. His dialogues made me feel like he wants ovi now cuz truly he is all alone..no pari, no purvi and no one. So ovi has to be his baby-sitter now until purvi gives him a little lead once again...Ovi has to be his punching bag for his low phase...while he sits and ruminates over his glossy memories with purvi...is she your aaya or your wife?

Rithvik was very convincing yet again in his acting..I liked his portrayal of the helpless and very desperate arjun while messaging ovi...i liked his pain and turmoil for his little daughter while visiting pari...He did a great job once again! I hope he continues this streak so I can atleast tolerate his character for the actor that he is...Asha Negi, on the other hand, should really step ot up..She has one constant expression of damsel in distress which does not change in any situation anymore and it is really a pain to watch her scenes, not withstanding that awful wig and the curls on her face. The girl is pretty, but her expressions and her hairstyle really keep that from coming across. ( right to constructive criticism).

Onir, oh lord have mercy. Please someone give him a little insight into his pathetic wife. Please. I felt sorry for him, Shakti Arora does a superlative job of underplaying the helplessness Onir feels right now. one could see his disappointment, dejected feeling of having nothing to hold on to ery well today. His eyes do all the talking, ala Amitabh Bacchan ( not meaning to compare the legend with him, but just the fact that both actors talk from their eyes). I felt very very bad for him. Some characters, if portrayed well by the actors despite being flawed, can evoke sympathy or a positive emotion. Onir finally did that for me today. I know it is his major "GALAT PHEMI" to tihnk his wife is right and the baby swap was some form of higher tyaag, but I could not help feel sorry for this accomplished doctor lifting mango boxes in the sun. I just wished today would have gained him some insight into the foolhardiness of his actions and his wife's stupidity. Alas, we know the poison is too far spread to let sensibility enter his brain. Poor guy, being rejected left right and center and finally having to do mazdoor work. Seems like fate is giving back to him for his own karma of disxarding a dead baby and robbing parents to mourn their dead child. But but but, what is purvi bhuktoing may i ask? Temporary wrath from Pope who is very easily going to accept her as soon as archu gets up from coma and banters about Purvi's innocence and no-wrong doing personality.
Onir is paying for his paap, while purvi sits on her ass all day at home, whining, and doing nothing...he is cursed to have her in his life, just as everybody else who has been associated with this woman.

I felt so bad, both Soham and Onir in the condition they are in today, thanks to both the K ladies Archana and Purvi. Both are responsible for their abject poverty, and their sad situations. so so sad. One never got educated and one being educated, lost it all thanks to wife. yehi hai asli K womaniya ki maaya. Manav had to flee country from chawl case and practically cheeno his babies from archana to save them the sad fate. This is why Ovi and Teju have a better upbringing than Purvi on all counts. They are atleast real and keep to their own lives.

Savita, so glad at least she is not sympathising with Purvi-Onir. And glad she mouthed off "when will purvi sudhregi". I hope she returns as the fiery savita she was and gives a good sounding off to purvi...If her fate is not paying her back for paap, atleast savita should sound her off. Kuch toh galat ho purvi ke saath bhai? Why is everyone else suffering, while purvi plays around in a garden of roses?

Arjun giving money to Purvi. I am very glad. This was needed and I liked the underhand way he did it too. Simply by stating his responsibility towards pari. But what he needed to do was tell her that being a father, he does not want to see pari living in red light district. So either, I will buy you guys a house and you can pay me back in monthly installments or I am taking pari, you come get her when you are in a better condition. I don;t know though, it would be a tad bit arrogant too on his side to deride onir for his conditions right now, but I don't know how he is comfortable seeing pari in that mocking cloth swing and the district that purvi lives in. I wish onir also tells her to dress more carefully since this is by long shots not a safe area for women showing off their back.

Purvi taking the money, I don't know about. I think she did the right thing for pari's sake, but I don;t know how onir is going to take this. Maybe she should have waited for Onir to agree and then accepted money. But then Arjun has all rights as bio dad to give his daughter whatever he wants. Onir may never have a say in that. Don't know, let's see what Onir's reaction is like tomorrow.

Purvi, the bichara face she made once again while saying aaji ne mana kiya hai..yaar. what are you 2 year old or what? Someone is giving you restrictions on what? Meeting old ex lover, and you are wondering why? After breaking someone's marriage, after swapping babies, after making your pati's life a living hell, you are still wondering WHY ? And acting so sly and bichari about it? Arjun telling her I won't if that affects your life...arey ullu why wouldn't it affect her life? have you thought about HOW it affects yours? you want your wife to come back to the same bermuda triangle that you have put her through in the past? Kya ye dono mein ratti bhar ki IQ nahi hai to put things together and make sense of their actions? Purvi is so lame it bothers me. hahahaha

Precap- Sulo in full form spelling out in bold letters that arjun should not meet you or pari in your house...Purvi is so dumb, she needs everything to be spelled out to her because you never know what she will make of your ambiguous statement. IQ level ki kami reh gayi hogi. Even the lovely Jhilmil in Barfi had more perceptive sense than a fully mentally developed Purvi. I think Savita must have rattled it out to Sulo about her sanskaari naatin having loverboy into the house, while husband is not home and after their very asanskaari rishta has been out in the open. Shamelessness ki bhi hadd hoti hai. She could have given Pari to Arjun and said, you please take her out, ghumao her, spend time with her at your house and bring her over later. No need to blame aaji for not letting her meet Arjun. Pari ko toh mil sakta hai na...bas any mauka she gets, she wants to act bichari, like someone lutoed her sansaar...nonsense woman...I am glad sulo pointed out that her own marriage will fall out if she continues this nain mataka with arjun...she is obviously taking onir for granted and thinks ofcourse he will be cool even if she lands up sleeping in arjun's house to take care of pari on his bed, with him. Every man has a breaking point and I am waiting for Onir's. Though no hopes high cuz Arjun never had his yet, so who knows Onir might not have one either :P

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Posted: 12 years ago

I completely get your Point Masti. However, Arjun has to take that chance, unless he takes Pari back from Purvi, but I don't think that will happen because now Ovi is in Canada, she will not want it to look like, she did not do this so called sacrifice for their marriage in the first place.
I have to think ahead with Purvi, just as you are clearly doing also, because I can just see her not spending that money on Pari either.😒
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Posted: 12 years ago
Saw episode just now

Arjun is turning out to be one of the most grey characters , flawed and real , next to Ovi

His grey role , torn between his past , baby and marraige has a lot of potential

He misses the wife he took for granted

He misses his baby

Extremely rich but very unhappy and lonely

thats Arjun for u

dunno about others but i found his bid to woo his wife back interesting

true ...at this moment she needs her space to sort things out , to think things out

but this desperate act of his , untaught by Purvi , conveys something

that he wants his wife desperately back

he has not been able to forget his past

but he wants her back , and on his own .

Interesting . If shown properly , this pursuit could be exciting .

Onir was lifting boxes along with Soham .

Purvi was giving her chain to feed the baby . But till then what . The baby remains hungry ?

I will not criticize the fact that Arjun gave child support money on his own and that Purvi took it .

No need for him not to see his daughter ...Onir can take her for visits .

Ovi is modelling , but very unhappy . Again , so real . If Arjun's chauvinistic pursuit is real , so is her unhappiness . I hope they play this angle .
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Posted: 12 years ago
i was late today as son came from university to spend his summer and took me out grocery shopping , library etc . Just him and me , with a lot of catching up to do . One of the best days of my life .
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Pari dear,

One of your typically excellent and impassioned posts, which rings true all thru.

I was also glad that you were able to separate the actor from the character and appreciate Rithvik's performance, which was very good despite the abysmal script. I have noted the same in my post to my Terrible Trio of mischievous nieces (you, Soumya and Tejaswini) on my CC4 thread.

Why are you so surprised at the way Arjun carries on in his attempts to get Ovi back? He was exactly as I would have expected him to be; he is 'like that only'. Remains to be seen if Ovi cracks up and runs back to him. Your comment about her lack of interest in her own success was very perceptive, and might be a pointer to the future track.

She just might come back, you know, Pari. One can say all one wants that she should not, but she goes by her heart, not her head, and she is miserable right now. If she does, then one can get set for a leap, but I think this will drag on for a bit. I was amused by Purvi trying to sell Arjun the line that she will come back for Pari. Which is the last thing I would expect her to do.

Btw, was that the new Romil?

Shyamala Aunty



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Posted: 12 years ago
Well, so I needed a break and decided to watch PR (my bad...can someone give me a wall to bang my head😡, please, I really looked for one on the web to add to my post😆, but am too technically challenged😆, so couldn't find any 😕). seriously, most of the episode was filler. Onir has decided to take up minimal wage job. I hope his slender built can survive all that manual lifting, God bless him...
And the there was Arjun...did he really think that Onir was able to provide his Pari after his license got revoked...I guess, son of a rich father, isn't aware of the way of this world 😆
And then, what was he doing, crying, calling texting Ovi...can't he really decide what he wants? Probably not, he is a small child who wants all the candies that a store sells 😆. So, I think he wants Ovi, he wants Purvi, he wants Pari, and he probably also wants Onir😆. Let see if he decides he will want someone else soon and add it his his list...like a Christmas list that keeps growing with every passing day😆, then that will be real fun, it will not be a mere menage a trois, but something of a new world order...say what😆...
Edited by Kalapi - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

i was late today as son came from university to spend his summer and took me out grocery shopping , library etc . Just him and me , with a lot of catching up to do . One of the best days of my life .

awww Kool, how is he doing?? and btw, you daughter (who was sick) is ok, right??
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Saw episode just now


Arjun is turning out to be one of the most grey characters , flawed and real , next to Ovi

His grey role , torn between his past , baby and marraige has a lot of potential

He misses the wife he took for granted

He misses his baby

Extremely rich but very unhappy and lonely

thats Arjun for u

dunno about others but i found his bid to woo his wife back interesting

true ...at this moment she needs her space to sort things out , to think things out

but this desperate act of his , untaught by Purvi , conveys something

that he wants his wife desperately back

he has not been able to forget his past

but he wants her back , and on his own .

Interesting . If shown properly , this pursuit could be exciting .

Onir was lifting boxes along with Soham .

Purvi was giving her chain to feed the baby . But till then what . The baby remains hungry ?

I will not criticize the fact that Arjun gave child support money on his own and that Purvi took it .

No need for him not to see his daughter ...Onir can take her for visits .

Ovi is modelling , but very unhappy . Again , so real . If Arjun's chauvinistic pursuit is real , so is her unhappiness . I hope they play this angle .


Kools, so glad to hear you had such a good quality time with your son!! Such a pleasure especially when they are away and come to visit! :) We were missing you on the forum and were wondering where you were!

I loved your point about Arjun being himself for once and wooing his wife out of his own will...It is something I missed, but now that you point out, it certainly is very interesting that Arjun for once is doing what he wants to do without any orders from the higher command of his life...without purvi, arjun is a different person, and I mentioned this yesterday too. His night with Ovi and the morning after were a stark contrast to him yesterday around purvi in the D house. Ovi makes him comfortable and lets him be himself, whereas Purvi always made him want to prove his worth to her. It is a psyche for him I guess. When she worked at his company, she always put him down in front of employees, other people with no care or respect for the boss. She always made him feel he is not good enough. First with her constant rant about working ethics and then about chote log lifestyle, sanskaars and chawl life and now with her constant directions on how to keep his marriage going. She always directs him and he lets her. This is why everytime she is around him, he shivers and goes numb in stress. He always feels he has to prove it to her. It is ingrained in his system now. It is how some people when always having a hard father, always try to impress upon him the most. Udaan, the fabulous movie was based on such a father-son story, with a beautiful message at the end. Much like the hard fathers, Purvi plays the same role in Arjun's life. I guess, for a child who has had no adult ever playing a directive role in his life ( Ashna was dead and DK could care less about whatever path/career/life Arjun chose), Purvi taking control of his life and giving him direction on what to do versus what not to do, became a silent habit. Arjun will always probably need purvi to direct him, until he himself rids himself of her poison.

This Arjun desperate for Ovi, is actually a huge sign of what she means to him and what he feels inside heart of hearts. It is a positive sign. Only thing is Purvi needs to be away from this scenario. every time she is in frotn of him, it is like some childhood phobia coming across, he becomes a wuss and incapable of any action on his own.

Excellent point Kools! :)
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Posted: 12 years ago
yes she is fine kalapi

he is doing well too , thanks

we could have had lunch outside but he is tired of canteen food and misses home made so came back and made garam garam aloo parathas for him 😊 and he had direct from the tava after many days . Feeling tired but happy . It was so nice just him and me without the rest😆😆 such occasions r so rare .
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Kalapi

Well, so I needed a break and decided to watch PR (my bad...can someone give me a wall to bang my head😡, please, I really looked for one on the web to add to my post😆, but am too technically challenged😆, so could find any 😕). seriously, most of the episode was filler. Onir has decided to take up minimal wage job. I hope his slender built can survive all that manual lifting, God bless him...

And the there was Arjun...did he really think that Onir was able to provide his Pari after his license got revoked...I guess, son of a rich father, isn't aware of the way of this world 😆
And then, what was he doing, crying, calling texting Ovi...can't he really decide what he wants? Probably not, he is a small child who wants all the candies that a store sells 😆. So, I think he wants Ovi, he wants Purvi, he wants Pari, and he probably also wants Onir😆. Let see if he decides he will want someone else soon and add it his his list...like a Christmas list that keeps growing with every passing day😆, then that will be real fun, it will not be a mere menage a trois, but something of a new world order...say what😆...


kalapi, you had me in splits!!! hahahaha Arjun's fancy shmancy christmas list.

Purvi, Ovi, Pari and even Onir :P hahahahaahhahahaha🤣

yaar, baccha bigad raha hai...koi toh sambhalo,..DK? oh wait, he is busy sambhaloing his christmas list in the red light district where he will soon meet ex-hone wali bahu- running with naatin in backless choli. he reminds me of Vijay Mallya...ahahah :P

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