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Posted: 12 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Can the baby crawl , toddle , turn over anything to fall off the bed ?


It is an infant for gods sake and infants remain stationary

before asking which mother keeps baby this way and that way how about asking which mother gives up her child within minutes of it being born

why should Arjun be called spineless and hapless in this context...i don't approve at all of some of the things he did but honestly what can he do if a woman constantly hovers around his baby , breast feeds it inspite of his wife's disapproval

what Ovi has got is alms from Purvi but what Purvi got ...unwed pregnancy ...was it an alm from Arjun ...and what was the follow up ...not knowing what to do with the bhiksha of the sperm so passing it around frantically , that bhiksha

let her change clothes and wear dresses like jeans , nothing will wipe her kartoots i only hope she doesn't become more hateful coz somehow we bore the tracks of Arjun learning from her , Arjun getting tamed by her yada yada ...the truth is she needs to learn ...what will she teach ...no respect for relationships and flirting around ?

No i want a more mature and truly introspectIve Purvi , not the old arrogant one coz frankly she is in no position to 'teach' anyone anything . I hope Punni grinds her nose in the dust .


👏👏 Nothing to disagree!!! Kudos to you !!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: missbeezee

Hi juz wanted to mention tht purvi is not a saint but neither is ovi. Yes ovi is a loving mum to pari but it was TOTALLY wrong of her to leave pari on the bed alone. Its normal for anyone even myself to go hysterical to see a baby alone on the bed. Yes infants do fall off the bed. My 3 month baby has fallen off n believe m i was not far frm him. It happened in a split second. So it was totally correct of purvi to carry the baby up. Even my mom would hav shred me to pieces...nyway my boy is fine now but the unbearable torture i went thru was enough to never leave him alone. Just wanted to share my experience ... 😊

ovi had gone to take pari clother to change,she wasnt partyng without her daughter,
pari is not evn a mth old,so small babies cant be so active to turn,
ovi isnt a saint,but she is 100 times better mther den wat purvi is,
purvi the bio mother cldnt feel that pari is wet
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Posted: 12 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1


Hope this post too is not addressed to me 😃 never did think Ovi flipping out when her baby disappeared was hyper, just thought it was well-deserved, her anxiety, her paranoia where Purvi is concerned. Just desserts because Ovi can never fully enjoy either Arjun or the baby, both are not really hers. Did you see her face when Arjun was making the speech? Poor girl was almost heartbroken, the last part of his speech did nothing to her bruised ego. (Loved the way Shruti, the actress, portrayed the emotions).

And never said Ovi was to be judged as an unfit mother based on this one instance. If I recall, I said if Ovi is proven to be incapable of caring responsibly for her child, the baby needs to be returned to its natural mother.

As it stands right now, much as I detest and abhor Ovi's character, she has to this point, proven to be a good mother, yes, it was careless of her to leave the baby unattended, but many new moms do this and just as it was natural for her to make this mistake, Purvi picking up her own baby not knowing Ovi had just left Pari for an instant was completely natural as well.

And who knows, if Ovi had not over-reacted and jumped down Purvi's throat, Ovi might have been spared that bhaashan.

Yes, Purvi giving up her baby was not only totally idiotic but made me think she is unhinged and an imbecile as well.


Jhanvi,

My post was not directed at you at all. I have mentioned before I like reading your posts and debating over them with you because there is a semblance of objectivity in them. I would not choose to be lamely sarcastic at you in a post like this. This was not directed at you at all, but a few others who support Purvi whenever the situation is convenient and even when it is not, they make the rules change just to justify her.

As for your point on Purvi having the natural instinct to pick up her child, I agree that she would want to. But when Ovi told her that she had left her for a minute to get clothes, Purvi is no one to give lectures to be honest. She has no introspection abilities any way about what wrongs she has done, but the limit to which she was telling Ovi about how to be a careful mother, was ridiculous in my opinion. When you give up a baby, I think it is most important to detach and move away, instead of hovering around, doing sly breast feeding and keeping a constant eye on whether the adopted mother is doing a good job or not. Purvi should move away to Kolkatta instead of hanging around giving lectures to anyone.

As for Purvi having natural instincts, I don;t see her having any instinct of mamta or motherhood when Pari would be crying at night, or any time during the day when she is busy getting close to Onir and flirting with him. Ovi always has the baby with her and she does a great job of being protective of her baby. Purvi would have seen that obviously, so she should know better than to go crazy and start telling Ovi what motherhood is all about. This, after she has been explicitly told that Ovi has issues with her and her hanging around her baby. But Purvi, has never known her limits in anything, so I wasn't surprised she bothered to once again step on someone's toes.

Ovi has all the right to be hyper when she sees Purvi around her baby. Purvi has given her no reason to trust her. Ovi has been having the nightmares like Manav did about Varsha running away with his daughters, and just like that Ovi dreams of Purvi grabbing her child and running away too. I think she is absolutely justified in thinking this way and going crazy to see Purvi around her baby. I would too and I think any mother would. Ovi isn't hyper or crazy around other family members at all, if you have noticed in the show. So to generalize Ovi as a hyper crazy over-protective mother is not right. She only riles up over Purvi, and with good reason.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Well now I hope she gets Arjun and her daughter.
Then I will be happy.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

You mean to say SW that she gives bhiksha and demands it back as she pleases just as she treats those who she 'loves' horribly


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Kools that is called "Indian giver" give the gift and take it back 😉 That is what Purvi the mother with motherly instinct is 😆😡



well thats a new low , and i actually agree with u 😆 yup Purvi can do that

Tanya i am not saying whether what Shravani did was right or wrong

i am saying about truly giving up

That fact alone .

Mothers who give up their babies for adoption do exactly this , they walk away for the baby's ultimate good and never look back .But just as they r showing Arjun eyeing Purvi when she is dancing with her husband or ARVI eyelocking with each other during poojas they are perfectly capable of showing giving child up , then making mamta issues and asking it back ...yup ...very possible . The TRPs increase with the shock value , however disgusting it is .

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Posted: 12 years ago
#36
Purvi's wardrobe needs to be changed... i am bored of seeing her in the same attire ( i mean the same style of wearing sarees, though colours are different) with the same old hair style😡... for god's sake please change her saree style... she now lives in mumbai and can wear a normal saree...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: pari87


Jhanvi,

My post was not directed at you at all. I have mentioned before I like reading your posts and debating over them with you because there is a semblance of objectivity in them. I would not choose to be lamely sarcastic at you in a post like this. This was not directed at you at all, but a few others who support Purvi whenever the situation is convenient and even when it is not, they make the rules change just to justify her.

As for your point on Purvi having the natural instinct to pick up her child, I agree that she would want to. But when Ovi told her that she had left her for a minute to get clothes, Purvi is no one to give lectures to be honest. She has no introspection abilities any way about what wrongs she has done, but the limit to which she was telling Ovi about how to be a careful mother, was ridiculous in my opinion. When you give up a baby, I think it is most important to detach and move away, instead of hovering around, doing sly breast feeding and keeping a constant eye on whether the adopted mother is doing a good job or not. Purvi should move away to Kolkatta instead of hanging around giving lectures to anyone.

As for Purvi having natural instincts, I don;t see her having any instinct of mamta or motherhood when Pari would be crying at night, or any time during the day when she is busy getting close to Onir and flirting with him. Ovi always has the baby with her and she does a great job of being protective of her baby. Purvi would have seen that obviously, so she should know better than to go crazy and start telling Ovi what motherhood is all about. This, after she has been explicitly told that Ovi has issues with her and her hanging around her baby. But Purvi, has never known her limits in anything, so I wasn't surprised she bothered to once again step on someone's toes.

Ovi has all the right to be hyper when she sees Purvi around her baby. Purvi has given her no reason to trust her. Ovi has been having the nightmares like Manav did about Varsha running away with his daughters, and just like that Ovi dreams of Purvi grabbing her child and running away too. I think she is absolutely justified in thinking this way and going crazy to see Purvi around her baby. I would too and I think any mother would. Ovi isn't hyper or crazy around other family members at all, if you have noticed in the show. So to generalize Ovi as a hyper crazy over-protective mother is not right. She only riles up over Purvi, and with good reason.


Dear Pari, didn't think you did, was just clarifying. 😉 Only semblance of objectivity? lol . I return the back-handed compliment. 😆 Human nature to think our reasoning (goes for both of us😊) is a tad more reasonable than the other's, however objective or open-minded we are but that is what makes this forum fun.

Yes, Purvi should have left to Kolkata and Onir did bring it up a couple of times but circumstances have kept them there, Archana's accident, Onir's court case, how else will the CVs keep the tale spinning?

Purvi was not in her right mind when she gave up Pari, she was just regaining consciousness, had not held the baby even, had not breast fed her and Onir agreeing to her foolhardy request is too far-fetched for me to swallow. Not well-written at all. If the CVs had shown Purvi somehow exchanging the babies herself and Onir discovering the exchange even moments later, it would have been better. I cannot come to terms with a doctor condoning and partaking in the exchange however besotted he is. Just does not jell, period. And this has nothing to do with whether I like Onir or not (I do), it is not in keeping with the character.

As for Ovi, she is crazy, always has been a little off the rocker to me, too obsessed with a guy who did not love her, if she were my daughter, I would have slapped some sense into her, not for Arjun's sake but for her own sake. It is so demoralizing to live with a man to whom you will always be second. In that sense, poor Ovi. Her paranoia about Purvi running away with the baby is baseless and to parallel that with Manav's nightmares of Varsha running away with Soham would make sense only to Ovi.

Ovi is always super aware of Purvi and she always will be and that has nothing to do with Purvi (however bad or good Purvi is), it is all in Ovi's head and Ovi's own making. She will always know in her heart, Arjun loved, loves and will love Purvi more than her and this will be like a kaanta in her side. That is tragic for any woman to know she is and will always be second best, she can never bring those stars, that magic into the eyes of the one she so desperately loves. Yes, Ovi did not think about this when she decided to accept Arjun even if he belonged heart and soul to another, just as stupid Purvi did not think twice in gifting Pari to Ovi. They are both young foolish girls, headstrong in their own way, spoilt rotten in their own way as well, and not given to heeding advice even when it is sparsely and rarely given.

My take, both girls are misguided, one at least has good intentions (even though they pave the way to hell for her and everyone else close to her) on her side, the other has always had only her own selfish interests at heart. It makes me reluctant to forgive the latter.

Edited by soapwatcher1 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Can the baby crawl , toddle , turn over anything to fall off the bed ?


It is an infant for gods sake and infants remain stationary

before asking which mother keeps baby this way and that way how about asking which mother gives up her child within minutes of it being born

why should Arjun be called spineless and hapless in this context...i don't approve at all of some of the things he did but honestly what can he do if a woman constantly hovers around his baby , breast feeds it inspite of his wife's disapproval

what Ovi has got is alms from Purvi but what Purvi got ...unwed pregnancy ...was it an alm from Arjun ...and what was the follow up ...not knowing what to do with the bhiksha of the sperm so passing it around frantically , that bhiksha

let her change clothes and wear dresses like jeans , nothing will wipe her kartoots i only hope she doesn't become more hateful coz somehow we bore the tracks of Arjun learning from her , Arjun getting tamed by her yada yada ...the truth is she needs to learn ...what will she teach ...no respect for relationships and flirting around ?

No i want a more mature and truly introspectIve Purvi , not the old arrogant one coz frankly she is in no position to 'teach' anyone anything . I hope Punni grinds her nose in the dust .

Kools, I couldn't agree more. Purvi gave up her child yet she still expects to be with her every single second. That's wrong. Now she has no right to preach to Ovi on how to raise a child, because she is much far from knowing how to raise a child. No mother would give up her child just like that. Purvi's so-called concern for the child is getting on my nerves now because it's so fake. If she was really that concerned for her child, then why did she give her up? I'm just waiting for Punni to make her life a living hell so she can put her in her place.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: soapwatcher1


Dear Pari, didn't think you did, was just clarifying. 😉 Only semblance of objectivity? lol . I return the back-handed compliment. 😆 Human nature to think our reasoning (goes for both of us😊) is a tad more reasonable than the other's, however objective or open-minded we are but that is what makes this forum fun.

Yes, Purvi should have left to Kolkata and Onir did bring it up a couple of times but circumstances have kept them there, Archana's accident, Onir's court case, how else will the CVs keep the tale spinning?

Purvi was not in her right mind when she gave up Pari, she was just regaining consciousness, had not held the baby even, had not breast fed her and Onir agreeing to her foolhardy request is too far-fetched for me to swallow. Not well-written at all. If the CVs had shown Purvi somehow exchanging the babies herself and Onir discovering the exchange even moments later, it would have been better. I cannot come to terms with a doctor condoning and partaking in the exchange however besotted he is. Just does not jell, period. And this has nothing to do with whether I like Onir or not (I do), it is not in keeping with the character.

As for Ovi, she is crazy, always has been a little off the rocker to me, too obsessed with a guy who did not love her, if she were my daughter, I would have slapped some sense into her, not for Arjun's sake but for her own sake. It is so demoralizing to live with a man to whom you will always be second. In that sense, poor Ovi. Her paranoia about Purvi running away with the baby is baseless and to parallel that with Manav's nightmares of Varsha running away with Soham would make sense only to Ovi.

Ovi is always super aware of Purvi and she always will be and that has nothing to do with Purvi (however bad or good Purvi is), it is all in Ovi's head and Ovi's own making. She will always know in her heart, Arjun loved, loves and will love Purvi more than her and this will be like a kaanta in her side. That is tragic for any woman to know she is and will always be second best, she can never bring those stars, that magic into the eyes of the one she so desperately loves. Yes, Ovi did not think about this when she decided to accept Arjun even if he belonged heart and soul to another, just as stupid Purvi did not think twice in gifting Pari to Ovi. They are both young foolish girls, headstrong in their own way, spoilt rotten in their own way as well, and not given to heeding advice even when it is sparsely and rarely given.

My take, both girls are misguided, one at least has good intentions (even though they pave the way to hell for her and everyone else close to her) on her side, the other has always had only her own selfish interests at heart. It makes me reluctant to forgive the latter.


Jhanvi,

I agree with most of what you said...except for @bold. Purvi has done everything to arouse Ovi;s suspicions about taking PAri away from her. Varsha was a bit extreme, but Purvi is also no less in that account. The sly breast-feeding and constant Pari-jaap would drive any mother over the edge, not to forget the rumored allegations of them having swapped the babies. Also, fully well knowing the half-baked truth about Varsha masi and soham, gives her enough reason to have nightmares, plus the whole Arjun-Purvi past. All of this pulled together, justifies ovi;s over reaction to Purvi regarding her baby.

Ovi was selfish and I will agree in the beginning I could not get myself to like her, despite all the abandonment issues. But post marriage, she is the only character that has grown. Whether it is her stance against Punni everytime she tries to kaan bharo, or whether it is her silent acceptance of Purvi being Arjun's number 1. She has apologized to Arjun for going berserk about Purvi and for drinking during pregnancy. She has also told Purvi that she is ready to let it all behind and move on as sisters. Infact, yesterday she was shown guilty about yelling at Purvi once again. That in my head is not selfish at all. She has enough introspection and makes her a very real character. Yes, people who do not like her can argue that now that she has Arjun, she can be nice to Purvi. I don;t see it that way. Ovi has gotten nothing from this marriage, not love, not respect and not even a friend. she has accepted it now and she lives on the hope of her daughter, not her loser husband. She expects nothing of him. I haven't seen any episode recently where Ovi demanded something out of Arjun, that she "had no right to" as most of this forum likes to put it. She is content in her space.

If Arjun loves Purvi so much, he should walk out on the marriage and Ovi, not the other way round. Ovi is not mahaan like Purvi to give up things like that and that makes me liek her, cuz in reality I do not come close to someone like Purvi at all. I don't understand baseless mahaanta in today;s world and then making other's lives hell. Purvi on the pther hand, has never had insight into her issues and apologized to any body. She has never respected Arjun is another thing. Glad she atleast admires her husband Onir. He got sometihng out of the relationship at least.

Anyway, as for Ovi having always had inappropriate ideas about Arjun-Purvi having an affair, I won't slide that off either. Arjun shamelessly eye-locked with Purvi whenever he got the chance, Purvi glanced at him slyly once in a while. Although Purvi made every effort to move on away from Arjun and I will give it to her, that she did not do these eye-locks as Arjun did. Which some peopel say Ovi should have expected. Yes, she should have expected. But then what was stopping Arjun to leave Ovi?

I don't think anyone will ever be able to answer the question that till date, if the love between Purvi and Arjun is so strong, if Ovi is so evil, mean and bad, what is exactly stopping the jodi from re-uniting? Arjun gives two hoots about Ovi and sanskaars, so he can still walk out right? Purvi is the one who keeps touting about sanskaars and eveyrthing she does is against her own sayings, so I can understand her not giving in to Arjun. But what is stopping lover boy?

This show and it's treatment of leads will always be beyond me. Whether it was Manav-Archana or Arjun-Purvi and now Onir, I simply don't get it. I am happy that atleast Ovi after being the villain of the show, has had enough character development and is the only who's actions I understand. The rest, are simply above my little brain. :)


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: pari87


Jhanvi,

I agree with most of what you said...except for @bold. Purvi has done everything to arouse Ovi;s suspicions about taking PAri away from her. Varsha was a bit extreme, but Purvi is also no less in that account. The sly breast-feeding and constant Pari-jaap would drive any mother over the edge, not to forget the rumored allegations of them having swapped the babies. Also, fully well knowing the half-baked truth about Varsha masi and soham, gives her enough reason to have nightmares, plus the whole Arjun-Purvi past. All of this pulled together, justifies ovi;s over reaction to Purvi regarding her baby.

Ovi was selfish and I will agree in the beginning I could not get myself to like her, despite all the abandonment issues. But post marriage, she is the only character that has grown. Whether it is her stance against Punni everytime she tries to kaan bharo, or whether it is her silent acceptance of Purvi being Arjun's number 1. She has apologized to Arjun for going berserk about Purvi and for drinking during pregnancy. She has also told Purvi that she is ready to let it all behind and move on as sisters. Infact, yesterday she was shown guilty about yelling at Purvi once again. That in my head is not selfish at all. She has enough introspection and makes her a very real character. Yes, people who do not like her can argue that now that she has Arjun, she can be nice to Purvi. I don;t see it that way. Ovi has gotten nothing from this marriage, not love, not respect and not even a friend. she has accepted it now and she lives on the hope of her daughter, not her loser husband. She expects nothing of him. I haven't seen any episode recently where Ovi demanded something out of Arjun, that she "had no right to" as most of this forum likes to put it. She is content in her space.

If Arjun loves Purvi so much, he should walk out on the marriage and Ovi, not the other way round. Ovi is not mahaan like Purvi to give up things like that and that makes me liek her, cuz in reality I do not come close to someone like Purvi at all. I don't understand baseless mahaanta in today;s world and then making other's lives hell. Purvi on the pther hand, has never had insight into her issues and apologized to any body. She has never respected Arjun is another thing. Glad she atleast admires her husband Onir. He got sometihng out of the relationship at least.

Anyway, as for Ovi having always had inappropriate ideas about Arjun-Purvi having an affair, I won't slide that off either. Arjun shamelessly eye-locked with Purvi whenever he got the chance, Purvi glanced at him slyly once in a while. Although Purvi made every effort to move on away from Arjun and I will give it to her, that she did not do these eye-locks as Arjun did. Which some peopel say Ovi should have expected. Yes, she should have expected. But then what was stopping Arjun to leave Ovi?

I don't think anyone will ever be able to answer the question that till date, if the love between Purvi and Arjun is so strong, if Ovi is so evil, mean and bad, what is exactly stopping the jodi from re-uniting? Arjun gives two hoots about Ovi and sanskaars, so he can still walk out right? Purvi is the one who keeps touting about sanskaars and eveyrthing she does is against her own sayings, so I can understand her not giving in to Arjun. But what is stopping lover boy?

This show and it's treatment of leads will always be beyond me. Whether it was Manav-Archana or Arjun-Purvi and now Onir, I simply don't get it. I am happy that atleast Ovi after being the villain of the show, has had enough character development and is the only who's actions I understand. The rest, are simply above my little brain. :)



Pari, I agree Ovi the character has "grown" or at least developed other facets to an otherwise one-sided personality. Shruti is doing a marvelous job. That said, just because Ovi has 'grown" I am not ready to accept that she has grown positively. The writers have developed her character and that is a good thing. They have taken a butcher knife to Arjun's character and slaughtered him mercilessly.

@ bold, I never alluded to Ovi's inappropriate ideas of a Purvi-Arjun affair. Since you brought that up, it falls in line with what I was saying in my earlier post, Ovi can never get the bhooth of Purvi from her head whether there is anything afoot between Arjun and Purvi or not. Purvi left town far, far away from their lives, Ovi still insisted on getting drunk while being pregnant, wanted to have an abortion, why? Because she still knew Arjun hankered after Purvi. No one knew where Purvi even was but that didn't stop the demons in Ovi's head and heart. I pity her (the credit for that goes to Shruti) but condone her for her behavior, I never will. I can understand the motives behind her behavior but that does not make me excuse her.

As for Arjun walking out of the marriage, I have oft repeated that I am puzzled by it too. In fact, wrote a post a while back that maybe, just maybe, he feels Purvi is not the person for him. She is this idol on a pedestal but he feels that Ovi is "right" for him. Who knows the twisted thinking of the CVs? Even if this were so, a hint here or there might help us decipher his totally shredded to smithereens character. I watch Sapne Suhana Ladakpan Ki on and off and was pleased by Mayank's decision in it to divorce his wife who he was forced to marry. Whether he is allowed to go through with the divorce or not is another matter entirely but just the fact that he took a stand and made a decision raised him in my esteem. Arjun sadly is lacking a backbone. I did not like his speech at the recent party either, the hints at how Purvi had changed him and then the fake gratitude towards Ovi. If I were Ovi and he were my husband, I would have smacked him hard, then and there, hurled the vase or something.

As for the jodi re-uniting, I am not sure I want that (not that my wants are going to be configured into how this serial plays out). Arjun did not love Purvi enough to stop himself from making a child with Ovi (should have been a physical impossibility for him to have been even momentarily attracted to Ovi if he was head over heels in love with Purvi, drugged, forced, coerced whatever - that is what undying pavitra ristha or true love should mean), he is out of the picture for me for Purvi by that mere fact. He cannot have his cake and eat it too. He chose to move on with Ovi, he should. However evil she is, it is his wife and not fair to her. He can divorce her if he cannot live with her any longer but back with Purvi is a no, no. To me, he cannot make sheep's eyes at Purvi any longer, however much his heart longs, he should keep his feelings hidden and under wraps. This, of course, does not change my opinion about Ovi's nakras.

Onir, on the other hand, has been shown as a perfect husband and human being (turning a blind eye to the baby exchange), why on earth would any girl in her right mind give up on him? Balks the mind.

The CVs, of course, will make changes as suits them, they may kill one or the other off (Onir or Ovi), make Ovi be falsely pregnant or who knows show that she got in vitro fertilization even (far fetched, idiotic but wouldn't put it past the craziness of the CVs) or even bring Romil back into the picture, make Onir a villain - all this if the writers desire to bring Arjun and Purvi back together despite all the hungama.


Edited by soapwatcher1 - 12 years ago

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