Disgusting Feeding post continued

Okay, so the original post created by ambolove was closed down. Apparently, the reason given was the use of inappropriate language and ideas. Honestly, I really don't want to argue with the moderators because I simply am too confused about the definition of appropriate language and ideas on PR forum.

Anyways, dear members, I am taking the liberty of continuing ambolove's post (I hope ambolove is okay with this). I thought it was a great post. SO, I'm posting what I posted under that thread. I'm guessing that most likely this thread will also be closed.

I'm disgusted to the core with PR's current tracks. More than disgusted, I'm extremely upset. No amount of words are enough to convey how upset I am with the fact that PR is still on air.

dude I a loyal fan of Arvi backed out yesterday .because i am so disgusted by the way story if progressing..i want justice for ovi

Asking anything logical for the current track of PR makes no sense.

But, I'll still ask. If this woman, Purvi was really concerned about Ovi, what is she still doing in Mumbai?

Wasn't the whole idea of Onir and Purvi staying in Mumbai was to treat Ovi? Ovi looks hale and hearty now. Why doesn't purvi get the hell out of Mumbai now?

And why can't purvi and Onir rent a house of their own than making a permanent home at the Deshmukh/Karanjkar house? Why is it that Purvi has one excuse after another to find a way not to get out of Arjun and Ovi's life?

I completely agree with ua post! PR has made a mockery of all d things that are considered pavitra in our life like first love, marriage and motherhood. I am so disgusted at the level that ekta has stooped to just keep the show on air. Pr makes no sense to anyone! Therez no storyline , the main characterz are butchered like anything. I cant believe that ekta has sidelined rithvik! U can see that even d actors are least interested in d show!
I agree with u on if such a show might have been on in d us or uk then d public might have laughed at ekta and called her mental. How can people b still intersted in watching pr is a mystery to me!

she should have gone to Kolkata long time back ...Archana is in coma and can wake up even after years or never wake up at all ...Onir should have never pacified her rubbish by calling her My Mishti , Gulab Jamun , Chum Chum whatever ...result is she is sitting on head pampered by her granny who is simply not doing the mature thing ...telling her to go to her marital home and pay attention to her marraige .

Mohini thanks for opening continuation to the topic "Disgusting Feed"

Originally posted by: Dabulls23

Mohini thanks for opening continuation to the topic "Disgusting Feed"

PR showing everything one must not do in their real life..Sadistic tracks and storylines..I dont care who is sidelined or not but do care when tooo much hype is given to a character which is the worst of all but portrayed as tyaagi, mahaan and sanskari..

I am not watching PR or here to support a particular actor or a character...I watch for the storyline with which this show started out with...But the purpose and meaning of it was lost within the 3-6 months of the show starting..

Feeding someone's baby w/o their knowledge or approval is sin IMHO..

You are bang on, Varsha Di. The ethical implications of feeding someone else's baby are far reaching and clearly the writers are completely oblivious of it. And when I say someone else's baby, I am right. The moment Purvi decided to give up pari, she relinquished a lot of her rights especially since for everyone else, Ovi is pari's biological mother.

Clearly, Ovi can breastfeed Pari. So, there is no reason for Purvi to feed Pari. She is doing it simply in the name of her "mamta ka false dhakosla".

As JulieD posted in the original thread, "when the truth will be revealed, everyone will be like how mahaan purvi is without much concern for the fact that Ovi lost her child".

Dear Mohini,

I am with you 100%, but as for the reason why PR survives, tell me, have you stopped watching it? Honestly? Well, I confess I have not stopped watching, though I have stopped writing long posts defending Arjun (Purvi piggybacked on him in my posts, for I never cared much for her preachy, interfering nature).

As for showing this in the US, I am sure it would not survive in this form. But they would rehash it, introduce every possible permutation and combination of deviation, perversion and dysfunctionalism, and would dish it out. I used to watch US serials off and on while out of India on diplomatic assignments. After I retired and settled in India, last year, I watched one called The Guardian - about a young man on probation for drugs, and there was not a single variety of perversion that was not on display there. I am conservative, and so there came a point when I could not take it any more and I quit. Then there was another called Damages, with Glenn Close, in which everyone, but everyone, was betraying and murdering everyone close to him or her, without the least compunction. That was the single most depressing and scary serial I have ever seen, and of course I did not last too long with it either.

In the 1980s, Dynasty, which was enormously popular, had all the characters divorcing and remarrying in a round robin fashion, without ever coming out of that charmed inner circle for their next spouse. I could not understand why they never looked a little farther afield. Dynasty had the ex-wife of Blake Carrington, now married to another oil magnate, endlessly scheming against his current wife. It also had Adam Carrington in the lost and found formula beloved of Hindi films, and the viewers held their breath as he almost had an affair with his sister Fallon, of course not knowing that she was his sister. Almost, but thankfully not ,in the end. And when their (again) lost and found younger sister got married to a European prince the whole wedding party was mowed down by, believe it or not, a most unconvincing bunch of 'terrorists' in a most unconvincing shootout. So, it is all the same stupidities dished out, with more gloss or less.

The best TV channels in the US, to my mind are the likes of PBS , and they draw heavily on the classics, like Jane Austen, Thackeray, Dickens, Conan Doyle, and the less classic like Agatha Christie, and the like. Also US TV has absolutely superb documentaries on any number of subjects -- familiar and esoteric.

In Indian TV, in the old, golden days of Doordarshan, before Zee and Sony and the rest appeared, there were very meaningful serials like Buniyaad, about the aftermath of Partition, and Hum Log. There were Shahrukh's TV outings directed by men now famous as film directors, and genuinely and consistently funny serials ( not like the crude stuff on Comedy Circus these days), like Mr. Yogi, Kaakaji Kahin with Om Puri, Yehi to Hai Zindagi - I can remember so many that I watched whenever I was posted in India. The number of episodes never went beyond 104. Some were of 52 episodes, and most only of 13.

Doordarshan never had to bother about TRPs, and even today, when anything is telecast both on Doordarshan and on a commercial channel, whether it the Ramayana or Satyameva Jayate, or now Saraswatichandra, I always watch it on Doordarshan, which is completely pop-up free. Nowadays, even NatGeo has sideways pop ups covering 1/3 of the screen disfiguring a wonderful documentary on Petra.

Now, PR will cross 1000 episodes! No wonder it is mostly tripe of the worst kind. Plus these days the real focus is on backless blouses, string-tied cholis, the chunky earrings, and the like. I do not think the story line gets anything like as much attention! Of course even in Dynasty, I am sure the gorgeous gowns contributed to the ratings in no small measure.

Even so, PR does not have to have quite so awful a script. I watched only BALH besides PR, and I have now dropped that as well. As of now, I am sticking to Sanjay Leela Bhansali's Saraswatichandra, DKD Mahadev, and the weekly Ramayana, besides of course PR. The other three can more than balance out the trash in PR. so I can cope for now.

They say that curiosity kills the cat, but curiosity is, I think, the real reason why I have not stopped watching PR. I keep looking out to see if Purvi will ever cop it for all the damage she has done to the unfortunate men who fell in love with her, and also how it all pans out in the end. I hope it does not take me another 1000 episodes to find that out!😉

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: Mohini19

Okay, so the original post created by ambolove was closed down. Apparently, the reason given was the use of inappropriate language and ideas. Honestly, I really don't want to argue with the moderators because I simply am too confused about the definition of appropriate language and ideas on PR forum.

Anyways, dear members, I am taking the liberty of continuing ambolove's post (I hope ambolove is okay with this). I thought it was a great post. SO, I'm posting what I posted under that thread. I'm guessing that most likely this thread will also be closed.

I'm disgusted to the core with PR's current tracks. More than disgusted, I'm extremely upset. No amount of words are enough to convey how upset I am with the fact that PR is still on air.

And the more screwed up part is that when anyone questions that brainless lady Ekta Kapoor about the regressive nature of her shows, she gets argumentative and counters it by saying, "oh in KSBKBT, Ba was shown learning fashion designing at 70+ age. That is very progressive". Can you ever make this brainless woman understand?

Anyways, what is extremely frustrating is that PR is among the top 10 shows across all channels. How? I don't know.

There is a section of viewers like us who are very upset and find that almost everything is wrong about PR and rightly so. But, apparently, a large section of viewers in India, at least the ones that constitute the TRPs, feed on such nonsense and crap.

I can challenge anyone that if such a show was on air in the US, someone would have sued the production house by now.

As some of you have pointed out, PR represents everything that a DYSFUNCTIONAL, UNETHICAL, AND REGRESSIVE society would stand for.

Kools,

You are spot on with the home truths that the various other characters should dish out to Purvi the Perfect.

But never fear, none of these sorely needed correctives to the script will ever see the light of day. Purvi is, next to Archana, She-who-can-never-be-wrong, certified as such by Mrs. Mahaanta Archana herself time and again, and so there is no way the CVs are going to give her any kind of come-uppance. Onir does attempt something of a telling off yesterday, but it is too little too late.

The person who is going to cop it now, for the folly of falling for this female, like Samson for Delilah, is Onir. At least Delilah really loved Samson in her own twisted way, and stood by him in the end and chose to die with him, Let us see what the saintly Mishti does when her lawfully wedded husband is standing in the dock for not having had the firmness of mind to read her the riot act on the lines drafted by you.

He will be in much worse trouble than Arjun ever was, for Arjun's sufferings were private. Onir's will be extremely public. As it is, given how cynical the public in India,or in the US, for that matter, is, he will never be able to wash off the stain of the scandal. People like to believe the worst of anyone, and the more admired and respected the person is, the readier they are to pull him or her down to their level or lower.

So when I see it asserted in the forum that Purvi owes Onir nothing, I am surprised and a tad dismayed. One cannot forget that even if she does not owe him love, there is a little thing called gratitude, the absence of which is the blackest of sins. As you have pointed out repeatedly, if she had not had Onir to protect her, she would have ended up as an outcast unmarried mother in Kolkata, with no one even ready to rent her a room, and sneers and insults following her everywhere she went. Why, what would have happened to her if this scandal of the pyaar ki nishaani had surfaced in the Karanjkar chawl? The whole family would have had a very tough time of it warding off the calumny heaped on Purvi and then on them. It is only because of Onir that Purvi has escaped this sorry fate. And she does not owe him even gratitude?

Shyamala

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

she should have gone to Kolkata long time back ...Archana is in coma and can wake up even after years or never wake up at all ...Onir should have never pacified her rubbish by calling her My Mishti , Gulab Jamun , Chum Chum whatever ...result is she is sitting on head pampered by her granny who is simply not doing the mature thing ...telling her to go to her marital home and pay attention to her marraige .

Everyone is responsible for the nonsense she has wreaked coz they pacified it although it was wrong .Arjun , Archana , Sulochana , Onir , Manav ...nobody told her she was doing wrong . Nobody told her a flat NO . She needed to hear it . Instead they treated her like the golden girl who did nothing wrong and it went so much to her head that this breastfeeding action is simply an extension of that decision making .

This is what each character should have told her .

Arjun : Nope . I won't marry Ovi . Test of love u say ? Well think that i failed the test then . Shrug Shrug .

Onir : No i won't swap the babies even if u want it coz what you r demanding can cost me my medical degree .

Archana : Go back to ur husband's home as already his practice must be suffering , you have stayed here long enough .

Sulochana : This is where your mama mami stay ...your home is with your husband . Both of u live there happily with my blessings .

Manav: i have never differentiated between u and Ovi Teju . So am gonna tell u what i would have told them . Time for u beti to go to ur pati's home . If Archana had not been in coma she would have told the same thing .

Again Onir : U r coming or no to Kolkata ?? If not I am going . And please move aside on the bed , i am sleeping on this side , the floor makes my body ache . And make ur own tea in the morning . I need my sleep for my rounds .

These r the answers Purvi needs to hear . Sab ne use sar par chadhakar rakha hai . She needs to be brought down to ground reality with reality checks and unsympathetic firm refusals .

Mohini, thanks for opening up the thread. If I may add, even I am confuse with what is allowed and what gets a warning (both implied, assumed and in way of language) in this forum these days. In some ways, it seem to be getting random and weirder by the day. Let us hope Mods will provide some clearer path forward so that we can all have a fruitful discussion.

Now, coming to the topic at hand. Am not sure, why is Purvi hanging around in K's household, which isn't her maikka anyway. Not to mention that she has delivered and her sasural is in Kolkta. What beats me most is that PR is showing both Jamatas are set up permanently in sasural. Seriously, this is the first time I see self respective damads in sasurals as if they are betas and not damads. Even Arjun is in Deshmukh's household when his own house shouldn't be far😕

Now for the feeding part. Not sure really with the mental health of Ladli Purvi these days. As you say, if her sacrifice is so that Arjun/ovi has a 'normal' married life, her actions are all contrary. Not only so, I can't believe how she is out to destroy her own child's life making her confused, even before she has really begin her life. Can't even imagine, how one could feed a baby which asking the parent's permission. My conclusion has been, she is one character that loves to rule the world from behind the curtain. What can I say except that a character such as Purvi's can't be considered a lead, or maybe we live in a world with no moral values and so she shines as the lead for her immorality...