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Posted: 12 years ago
#61
Kools Vashikaran is same as Vash karna from what I know..Only difference is Sanskrit VS Hindi respectively
Black magic, Jaadu, Hypnotism of some sort all fall under same I think..
Some one can correct me if I am wrong
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

No probs Jyothi , my dislike of Purvi 's actions is the same . Too too deep it runs . Also since i have a habit of looking at each thing from my perspective [ which all do] if i was Arjun i would not forgive Purvi more than even Ovi as the betrayal of the loved one hurts the most if u consider the other indifferently or as a villain . Here i do not consider Arjun as the victim as he is a grown adult who has listened to Purvi with a choice not to exercise his brains . I feel sorry for him for being so much under her thumb but where responsibility for his actions is concerned ...he must take it for listening to that betrayer . Only then will he grow up and his character will have some development .


Amen again Kools. Purvi needs to answer and pay for her sins- I dont give a damn what excuse anyone comes up with to justify her mahanta bullshit. (oops- sorry for the swear words)

Ive already agreed the boy was a fool to do what he did and a fool to let her get away with treating him like crap. Still my ladla though...and I would give my next paycheck to slap them both upside the head- him to knock some sense into him to get back to his old self. And her...well...for what all she did. Guess that makes more than one slap in her case.

I cant help but think that this is a complete oolta situation we have here. The boy was genuinely attached to her after that night, and if you look at that stupid hilltop scene, she hammered the daylights out of him. How a girl can do that after having a first time experience like that with him is ..well.. I mean ok fine..call me old school..but that is just so completely beyond my limited ability to understand. Usually its the guy who is able to forget an experience like that or not feel so deep about it while the girl gets all emotional. The CVs have flipped this completely upside down havent they??

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: pari87


Hi Arch,

I absoluely agree on the point of Arjun-Purvi, whatever you have said. Thankfully, you are more than half objective about the scenario which is hard to find. :P

I loved Arjun-Purvi before the wedding night and excused them for everything prior, even though I thought Purvi should never have taken Arjun back after she found out about Ovi, simply because she was the one who wanted family and her mom's happiness more than anything. But, I excused her. I even let it slide that Arjun did not tell Ovi/Purvi about each other and did not even give respect to his friendship by being there for her through the breakup and suicide. I disliked Ovi so much then, it kind of let Arjun/Purvi off the hook for anything they did against her.

But, after the marriage, a lot of people on this forum wanted Purvi and Arjun to get back despite the heartless deal she had accepted and forced Arjun into. They all said, "oh I hope the marriage was fake, or I hope that he walks out on Ovi and gives Purvi a hard time and she comes crawliing back feeling pathetic". Now, when Purvi can be given a second chance, why cannot Ovi? I lost all hope on Purvi for making that one forced choice on Arjun and ruining his life forever. I even disliked Arjun more for not standing up for himself. Even then, post the sham of a marriage and his one-day wrath when he tells her " You did what you had to, now watch what I do". I thought one last chance for both, where he divorces Ovi because he found out about her end of the deal, I thought he will make Purvi suffer and she will soon come to her senses. I gave them both that much space for redemption in my head. I knew I was wrong, but I let them be thinking of foolish immaturity that plagues lovers at a young age.

But I was done giving chances to both of them when it was a month and he was eye lockign with Purvi, without walking out on Ovi, keeping his marriage going, she was still holding reigns on him with her doe eyes and demure halwa making nonsense. The last straw was her asking him to consummate his marriage and running away herself blaming her kartoots on Ovi's securities and simply hiding her pre-marital sex story. That was it!

So, objectively, when everyone is sTILL giving chances to Purvi and Arjun for the plethora of wrongs they are still comitting, Ovi feels like a breath of fresh air. She made one deal and that is it. Since then, she has been redeeming herself, by being apologetic to Arjun at every chance. She is respectful of his dad, does her housewife duties, and overall is putting in every effort to win him over. At this point, she is the one taht deserves a secodn chance at being looked at objectively.

This is why I have turned over to Ovi, she is real and flawed and I do beleive I disliked her for being spoilt and tantrum-types and also for being so blind as to not see that Arjun loved someone else. But I do blame a part of that psyche on Arjun, not having sat her down and been calm and nice about the breakup. He just broke it on her. she took time to get out of depression and delusions. But now she is shining more than Purvi's fake halo and more than Arjun's pitiable love. She has redeemed herself and I wish the forum that hates her with a vengeance could see that. That is what I mean when I say objectivity, which lacks throughout. :P

This is not to offend anyone, was just putting my point across as to how someone who hated her, loved ARVI and rooted for them, switched over to her side :)


Hi Pari, well I see your anger and disappointment for Arjun and Purvi at this point and it is totally justified. For me thats not enough to give Ovi any kind of chance though. Ive always seen her as a self-centered brat, but would still have maybe tried to be objective before. However, in her case, For me, imbibing alcohol and endangering her child's life knowingly...just because her husband was not paying attention to her the way she wanted for her...was for me unforgivable. Cant justify that in any way in my mind and simply intolerable for me. My husband irritated me at times when I was pregnant, and I thought he was being insensitive, but hell-- that wasnt enough to send me to the bar for God's sake. As far as the attention piece- again, she knew damn well she made a deal to get a man whose heart belonged to someone else and still does. As I said, God help him, but he is going to be in love with the Mahatma Purvi all his life. It is what it is. Again, you can have his body, freedom, possessions, money, obligation etc----cant own his mind and heart though. If I could...Id make sure as hell he got his bark back and started letting her have it---but I cant control him any more than anyone can. So we will have to agree to disagree on this one sweetie...just my POV😳

But so correct and completely right on all other accounts. For me the breaking point was that she could give him up after making love with him for the first time. And I cant believe he was so lovestruck he listened to her. These CVs seem hell bent on proving that nice guys do indeed finish last.
Like I said, am old school, but my simple mind cant digest this one. Complete mess they made of their lives. I do agree though...we talk of punishing Ovi...who I do believe deserves it..but why the hell should Purvi get away scot free? And get to, after all the lives she has wrecked, get to go happily off to Never Ever Land with the Goody 4 eyes?? Thats not fair??

I want my Khadoos Ladla back and I want her to end up forced to go back to him for what she did. And I want to see him breathing fire...smoke come out of his ears...when he realizes she not only threw his love back in his face, emotionally blackmailed him into a loveless marriage, and then proceeded to mess with his right for not just one, but both of his babies. Nope...no happy ending or fairy tale ending for her.

If he was the khadoos who first came from Canada, he would straighten her out in no time. That ladla of mine handed her the pink slip the moment he walked off the plane remember?? He could have cared less what her finances were, how mahanta or sanskari she was, who her Aai was, etc. If he were in that Avatar again, I would pay double the ticket price to see what he would do when he finds this all she has done. Wonder how on earth she would manage to get back into his good graces. Really I would.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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archverma though i will differ on the degree of unhappiness that makes one hit the bottle as the mental psyche varies and if life taught me one thing its ...just coz u have the mental strength to do such and such a thing do not judge those who don't have that strength ...there was a time when i was contemptuous of such weakness ...not anymore as something taught me differently and i don't consider it today as an objectivity , understanding but simply as a blessing ...all i remind myself constantly of is thank god i am not in that position .

But let us keep our differences aside and let me tell u what i think of that very interesting remark u just made ...that it is shown ulta in PR ...that girls r more emotional about such things than guys

i feel PR is showing for once some reality coz [ again , this is my individual observation] girls nowadays r mentaLly more stronger than guys . They have no hesitation to use and ditch guys.They r the first to move on . They also believe taking advantage of their bfs is 'haq' ...a power that comes necessarily with sleeping around . Purvi is a typical specimen of the kaliyug girlfriend and Arjun is typically the type i see around me in plentitude ...young , naive,not knowing his own value and eager to please the girl .

Purvi used Arjun . There r no 2 ways about that and she is now using Onir the same way . Onir has done so much for her but she makes him sleep on the floor . Its exactly the same way poor Arjun had to give tests after tests to prove his love .

Purvi should have got a chalu guy like Mr Mittal who would have point blank refused to sleep on the floor , give any tests to prove himself and made her sign a prenup instead and made her toe the line ...talked to her as smartly as he does with Punni . In real life , if at all unwed moms marry , they get Mittals only ...life becomes one big adjustment for them and they constantly worry how to raise their kid and latch on to the first man willing to take some responsibility .




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Posted: 12 years ago
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Varsha ur not wrong ...the verb vash in sanskrit , marathi or hindi means the same ...to captivate .
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

About ' vashikaran'


in mantra vidya there is a special mantra for this phenomenon

in english it is called hypnosis

but thats the closest word that comes to describing it . It is not exactly that . But yes , its the closest . It means holding total sway over a person to make him or her do ur bidding .

Any guesses who that is in PR and who is the hypnotised party .

Marry my sis . Ok boss .

Now sleep with her . Ok boss .

Give her present . Ok boss .

😆😆😆 Ovi is hardly the vashikaran type . Very direct and confrontational . Her straightforward tantrums r even called as spoilt by those who don't like them .

Vashi karan types r the ones who stay behind the curtains and pull the strings and hold absolute sway . In olden days wives used it to tame wild husbands and prevent them from going to other women ...or other women used them to ensnare men and prevent them from going back to their wives .

Vashi karan types r quiet , firm ones who tell u exactly what u want to hear but actually have something else in their heart .

For that matter even Onir is under vashi karan .😆

archverma this is what i feel

The baby that died did not belong to Ovi alone it was Arjun's baby too .

This crucial info about his personal loss should not have been witheld from him .

Purvi did not plan to tell him that his child had come in the world when she was carrying . She planned to keep quiet on that one if his baby with Ovi had survived and she was planning to raise it chupchaap with Onir .

I feel that Arjun deserved to know in both the instances . Its his baby and nowhere has he indicated unwillingness to take responsibility for his mistake .

He has a complete right over his grief .

Decisions r made for Arjun and its time he revolts . He simply must put an end to the misunderstanding that the child belongs only to the woman and she can do whatever she pleases with it ...give it to Onir or donate it within hours of delivery .

Arjun must refuse to give his daughter back if demanded . Its not just Ovi who has been tricked ...its him too .

It has nothing to do with Onir's goodness . This is about his right . He has no right as shown in the serial but justs drifts like a kite with his ex's whims .

He should not give his daughter back and unlike Manav .be unrepentant about it . Wear transparent white saris or lemon yellow noodle strap frocks in the rain Arjun must never repent on not giving up his daughter and hold on tight to her till the end .



Kools, if Ovi was that direct, why didn't she approach Arjun? Why go to Purvi? Ovi is underhanded alright, even in Canada she lied to those boys that Arjun was her fiance and again pretended to flirt so Arjun could come rescue her. She is crafty as crafty can be, no doubt about that. .

😆 Pointing the truth about Ovi is considered gaali but implying Purvi is a sorceress is kosher. I meant vash karna as usurping and in relation to Ovi but if you interpret it as hypnosis and pulling of strings from behind that bespeaks of evil doings. Attributing it to Purvi is all fair game, of course, by the mere fact that she is not princess Ovi. 😉

If Arjun was fool enough to listen to Purvi, let him be blamed. Isn't Purvi being blamed for listening to Ovi? Where is the fairness in this? Ovi gets off scot free for bringing the deal, Arjun is pitied for being a fool for fulfilling it, but Purvi its lambasted for telling Arjun to marry Ovi? Purvi was supposedly 18 to his 24. He is a shrewd businessman but he cannot use his brains when it comes to his own life? If someone tells me to jump off a bridge, even if I loved that someone, if I broke my ribs in the bargain, I hope I have gumption enough to blame my idiocy for going along with the suggestion.

That said, I have always held that Arjun has a right to know that he fathered a child with Purvi. Now that Purvi has handed him the child, he does not need to give the child back to her. If she had not readily gifted the baby, then I would have said since Arjun played no part except in the accident of its birth, Onir was the real father. A child is not a toy (unlike grown men who move from one sister to another and father babies with both) to be handed over and then demanded back.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Varsha ur not wrong ...the verb vash in sanskrit , marathi or hindi means the same ...to captivate .


I believe the correct meaning is to control. Example: Vash me laana, kaabu me laana, hamare vash me hoga. Ovi was trying to bring Arjun under her control and trying to usurp a place in his heart and life, a place that did not belong to her. 😉
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Kools...totally respect your views..and past experience that may have led to them and so will defer to you there...😊

As far as Purvi...and the young girls of today...good grief... Cant believe that is the deal with kids these days. Guess Im an old romantic fool. 😕

What a complete mess the CVs have made of this track. And yes- I fully agree...When the poor Onir wouldnt do what Purvi dictated...she promptly hopped a train to Mumbai and left him behind in the dust quicker than you can blink an eye. Wow.

Poor Arjun had to jump through hoops and now she netted another poor fool too. Fudging medical reports, sleeping on floors, now rumors of allowing himself to be blackmailed in some organ donor racket...thereby losing his integrity that he worked so hard to build as a physician...all for the sake of the sweet and sour Mishti. My my my what a tangled web she weaves!!

Are the men in PR supposed to look like idiots or what? And the women who slap them around, leave them hanging out to dry for the good of other people, deny them support and humiliate them in public for the beloved community, give them up and trade them around as if we are at a rodeo auction for the good of their loved ones-----is this supposed to be applauded? 😲

Ummm...W*F????
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Posted: 12 years ago
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That said, I have always held that Arjun has a right to know that he fathered a child with Purvi. Now that Purvi has handed him the child, he does not need to give the child back to her. If she had not readily gifted the baby, then I would have said since Arjun played no part except in the accident of its birth, Onir was the real father. A child is not a toy (unlike grown men who move from one sister to another and father babies with both) to be handed over and then demanded back.

Jan...this part I agree with wholeheartedly my once upon a time sambandhji...😆...but sweetie...Purvi does deserve to be lambasted till Kingdom Come too. Arjun yes- he was stupid and now he is paying the price. But he is paying he price- nobody can deny that.

Way I see it...this poor doctor is going to pay a big one too...all in the name of tyaag. Even if he doesnt...point is...she does get away scot free...off to the Kolkata sunset with the Mahanta Goody Two Shoes...who can give her a run for her money in the Mahanta Mishtiness. Together they can have a dozen kids and give them all away in the name of tyaag and greatness. Where is the fairness in that?
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Nope i don't agree she is crafty at all . Crafty is a word designed for only one character in this serial and thats not her . She can be described as spoilt but not that .

Why she did not tell Arjun ...simple . Coz Arjun was besotted by the girl he met in India . But she didn't tell Purvi not to tell Arjun . Btw why did Purvi not tell Arjun ?😆😆 Undoubtedly niswaarth motives .

vash karna is not to usurp SW . And it is not my interpretation ...i am telling facts . I had no wish of implying that Purvi was a sorceress but dear u used that verb first . I merely explained the meaning . And while explaining i gave an example ...that if at all it is to be used why not use it to describe the woman who has men jumping through loops for her inspite of getting nothing from her . Both Onir and Arjun have got zilch from her .

Where has Arjun not been blamed for not using his brains ? 😕 In fact in this very thread i have made a post blaming him and insisted he take responsibility for his action .

That said ...i wish to say something here . If he had not listened to her conditions then ...he would have been bashed as a lover by those very people who say he should have used his own brains . They shrug their shoulders coz ARVI r not together today and perhaps their purpose today is saying Purvi alone is not to be blamed as her deeds have gotten out of hand ...but maybe CVs showed Arjun that way coz young girls expect lovers to be that way today ...obedient to the hilt ????????? Dunno .

The custody battle will perhaps never happen ? I do so hope though it should and i want Arjun to win .

That said Lets agree to disagree 😉


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