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Tanyaz thumbnail
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Posted: 13 years ago
#51
You are right ...If not slap to Ovi ( maybe because of her pregnancy ) then most definitely a very bad telling off was needed from Archana ..Archana should have been shouting at Ovi like anything for drinking when she was pregnant .
I also find it strange how suddenly Manav's character is now almost written off...Before it was shown that he would get angry and scream and shout and was super sensitive about Ovi ...Now Manav is just pushed in the back ground totally .He slapped Teju for lying and coming to India ..What Ovi did was much worse but he did not say one word to Ovi ...
It is all about the current script Kool.
Now Manav and Archana are not the leads and they have been pushed in the back ground ..The show is all about Arjun Purvi and Ovi ...and of course Onir .
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I think Archana is trying to be a good mother to all her kids now ... but yes the bond she shares with Purvi is extra special ( it is like that King whose jaan was in the tota ( parrot ) , Archana's jaan is in Purvi ). I think before leap, the person who Archana loved the most was Manav but after leap it is Purvi ...Archana loves her more than she loves Manav or anyone else . ..
It is not right but it does seems that Purvi is more special to her than the others ...I know this is very wrong but this is what it looks like ..
I don't know why , maybe becuause she raised her or maybe because with adopted children there is always this little fear that she might leave me because I am not her real mother ...maybe this fear is in Archana ...
She also loved Sachin way more than her own kids ...maybe the same feeling of losing the adopted child .
I am not saying this is right infact this is wrong .a mother should ve equal love to all her children ..The kid who was most unfairly treated by both Manav and Archana s Soham ...I love that boy even though he is a Gunda ...
I saw the SBS, Archana forgave Purvi in two seconds flat ...even though she is shocked and crying so much to see that Purvi was hiding such a big thing ...But in her tears she is saying that now she is sure that Purvi does not needs her Aie ...and the way she covered her face when crying and saying these words ...I am telling you, Archana is terrified of losing Purvi .
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I am not at all surprised by this kools re.Manav and Archana are now mere dolls of the show.No plot nothing ,nothing to do just juggling among their kids.
They are not involved in any decision making process of their kids as they are needed.Each own doing their own,messing up their lives big time and Manav n Archana are left wanting in the middle.
Great going CV's/writers.When the time was there for Manav n Archu to interfere ,CV's did not allow them to do so and now there is no opportunity to do so.
Manav has become worse than guest appearance after this is so called senseless 6 month leap.
Manav ,the very same down to earth simple character which captivated millions of hearts is left to nothing
Archu,the household character like Manav in every household across is left to just shed tears again and again n nothing else.
Both Manav n Archu have just become puppets who are shown daily coz they have to be shown for the show to run.
Well done CV's/Ekta for destroying your own creation with your very own hands that was once such a beautiful simple love story of two simple souls.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Dear Shyamala,

I am sorry that I didn't explain about the loha to you and the rest who aren't accustomed to bong culture. Loha is the Bengali word for iron - the metal.

To a married Bengali women, loha is equivalent to Mangal sutra (except perhaps Tamils? who also do not wear the mangal sutra either).Loha is an iron metal bangle that she wears on her left hand with the Sakha (the white bangle made on conch shell) and pola (the red bangle made of red coral). The order is loha, shakha and pola.

General, on the morning of the Bengali wedding, right after the Vriddhi (puja where the ancestors are offered rice and prayed to bless the 'couple to be'), the bride has the haldi ceremony, followed by 7 married women putting the loha/sakha/pola on left hand and sakha/pola on the right. After this the bride is given the ceremonial bath. So, in essence the 3 bangles along with the sindoor are what adorn a married Bengali woman and never removed unless she becomes a widow. Generally, after marriage the loha that was worn in the morning of her wedding is replaced by one given to her by her mother in law. Generally, a married girl can only wear loha from another married woman or by her husband. The loha that is given by the inlaws are generally covered with gold. In modern time and with more and more Bengali women working, most women will probably forgo wearing the sakha and pola, but not the 'loha' (I guess, the iron might refer to strong relationship with husband). Btw, I was nitpicking Ekta's attention to details after seeing Purvi wearing so many of those red/white bangles😃

As for Purvi gifting a saree to a patient's wife, that was definitely over the top. True, Durga Puja is like Diwali or Christmas to a Bengali and lot of gift are exchanged and given (especially cloths, as it is ritual to wear new cloths during the puja's), but Purvi gifting a saree to someone she never met is simply unrealistic. Besides, why would she do so with a tight budget?

Originally posted by: sashashyam

My dear Kalapi,

What is the 'loha'? Today, at the hotel, Purvi looked washed out and tired. And why does she have to go around gifting and delivering sarees for a patient's wife?It is all so far out that it is beyond ridiculous.

Shyamala

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dabulls23

How did Purvi assume that Patient-Ovi won't be carrying saree with her? or wearing one to begin with as Ovi is married and prego..Who died and made her god to give out sarees to patient's wife who will be patient next..

Its mind boggling..

or the wife might not even prefer a saree😕
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Thanks kalapi for explaining Loha traditions..I did not see Purvi wearing Mangalsutra and for couple of days I could not see Sindoor either...But yesterday I made sure to look for it and yes she was wearing sindoor but no Mangalsutra...I was abt to ask u these Qs but thanks to Shyamala she did...Here we have your perfect explanation..
I have a different take on Ovi's so called snooty behavior as some mentioned..When kids are born in foreign or even in India in very well to do families they are certain ways...They are used to certain life style..
Ovi stayed in chawl with Deshmukhs...Never complained...But when she has her own home in Canada or living in Kirloskar apartment she is getting comfortable life like back home...What is so wrong with her asking Arjun Q abt hotel being certain way? If I were her I would ask my husband same Q..Nothing wrong in being rich and expecting or having your own standard of life one is used to 😃
Also abt seeing doctor in Canada..She was raised in Canada for past 18 yrs and may be feels comfortable seeing a doctor there..As they were not finding Dr. Onir she was told she was going to be taken to US or Canada..Which is ok by her..If I were her I would be apprehensive abt seeing a doctor in some diff state in India too..Personally I feel more comfortable with the medical treatment, hospitals and doctors what I am used to..
I am just giving other explanation..Some call it snooty, snobish, spoilt but for some this their ways of living...If she can afford it all power to her..She did not expect Arjun to rob a bank so she can stay in 7* hotel..
Pls dont see this as mere excuse for her...I am no Ovi fan or supporter but being DA and giving other opinion. Not all are cut out for roughing it..Each child is different...If we accept Purvi being ok with chhoti chhoti cheezein, Teju being tom boyish roughing it in India and driving taxi than we have to accept a canada raised fashion model from very well to do family having certain standards. Nothing more..
My POV Ofcourse and 2 cents.. Take it or leave it and I will keep them 😃
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kalapi

or the wife might not even prefer a saree😕

Kalapi pls tell me would it be OK for a married pregnant woman to wear Salvar Kameez to Durga Pujo? Or must she wear temple saree??? Pls give me your answer from what bengali young married wife does these days in Kolkata especially Canada raised one..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Shymala, this is exactly what happens in Cancer, in the rare, or the untreatable types or during the last stages of the disease. But pregnancy isn't that complicated anymore, and most complications are rather related to structural defects of organs or related to immune system (maybe). I am ruling out immune related since she is 5+ months into preganacy, if structural related, Ovi should be under complete bed rest...funny, nothing of these were shown. You know what I think, the Cvs need to get real - just throwing out complications and that to of preganacy doesn't really cut it anymore...I just find Onir, the expert and Ovi's complication a bit funny...

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Yes, Kools, the first is completely artificial and cuckoo.

But as for the latter, it might be that Dr Onir has pioneered some special procedure for treating some specific problem that Ovi might be suffering from,and if so, the Mumbai doctor would naturally refer the case to him. This happens very often in cancer and heart surgery, when there are special problems. But I wish they would show Dr.Onir at work properly, in a big hospital, not necessarily a 5 star hospital but a big, busy one, not like his clinic. He seems to be always at ease and sitting at nukkads or the like.

Shyamala

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Anjili for a principled not money minded Doc , Onir's explanation about not leaving Kolkata during pujo days and calling the patient here only is slightly arrogant


what if the patient is not in a condition to travel ...surely his expertise in complicated surgeries makes him familiar with complicated conditions

And pujo is about Maa Durga , don't the educated believe that saving a woman is a service to her rather than staying put in one place to observe rituals

That was the thinking of Bengali reformists .


I agree with you kool...if Onir is so dedicated and believes in social service, as he is protrayed, his attitude doesn't add up...hmm, wanted to say something else, but forgot😃
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Posted: 13 years ago
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See Shyamala, I disagree with you on your assessment of Ovi here.

I will tell you my real life experience. I am myself born and raised in India and more than half of my total living years were spend in India. But, even now when I travel to India, I double check every imaginary medical need with my docs here. During my first pregnancy, my inlaws wanted me to deliver in India, I just preferred here. Last time, when both my kids were sick constantly, I simply wanted to come back to the West. Even if I look around here, my Indian friends could any day prefer a treatment in the West than in India. I guess, we have grown accustomed to the treatment facilities, the way a doc treats his patient, his style, his way in explaining treatment options, his stating the basic facts, a patient having a say in his treatment…don't know what it is, it might be a mixture of these or something else, but after a while most first generation Indians simply prefers a treatment in the West. Maybe it is still the very different approaches to treatment in these 2 countries. I don't think that there is a dearth of good docs in India, but the difference is probably the approach and what is one accustomed too. So, I couldn't blame Ovi , who is raised in Canada right after the first year, if she preferred a Western Doc over an Indian doc. As for a wanting a 5 star hotel, but isn't that natural too…I mean my kids too complains the lack of infrastructure in India and finds it hard to adjust to small things…I thought it was only natural, for Ovi to complain. Besides, she can well afford it, so why not go for a Canadian Doc…besides; Canadian medical treatment is actually free too….world class treatment is actually subsidized by the Government. I found it weird of Deshmukhs wanting Onir over a Canadian treatment…

Originally posted by: sashashyam

@blue.Precisely, Kools, and he says the same thing to his Shambu kaka when he is attending to Arjun and planning to miss the shashti puja if necessary. He should told Arjun that he was busy with a number of other patients in Kolkata and could not leave them. It is theCV's fault that they made him say this stupid thing.

In any case, if you want a specialist doctor, you have to go to him or her,and no vice versa, as they do with Dr Michael DeBakey for heart surgery and the like. Very few would travel to another city or country. And if Ovi was ready and eager to go to London, why can't she go to Kolkata?

The fact is that she thinks this doctor is Indian, and she would feel more at home with her ladidah friends if she had a firangi, and went to a Western hospital. The way she puckers up her (woefully inadequate) nose at the idea of actually having to stoop to staying in a 'small hotel', I felt like taking a stout slipper to her backside. It would have done her a world of good!

And if I had been her husband, seeing the tantrums she throws at the drop of a hat, and the way she carries on as if she is doing him and the world a great favour in condescending to produce this kid, for whom she does not seem to care tuppence, I would not have taken a slipper to her. A hatchet, more like! She is the ruddy limit, that girl!

Shyamala

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