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Posted: 13 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

PandorasBox, Archana invited Manav but also told him she understands his position meaning if he cannot come, she is perfectly okay. Ovi did have her baba near her so no question about that. About Purvi insisting Manav needn't come to the engagement, why should she do any insisting? She didn't invite him and does not need to uninvite him either. Manav is a grown man and should make up his own mind. His sending the sari to Purvi was wrong if he is divided in his own mind about Purvi. Purvi and Archana did have their celebration without Manav or Ovi or any of the others, how are they expected to show mercy? Ovi's family is there for her during this time of difficulty for her, her dad, sister, brother, grandmother. She does not want her mother there anyway and her grandfather is useless and doesn't count.
I actually felt bad for Damo today, he kept talking and Archana kept making polite faces and Manav completely ignored him. The saying, "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt" so aptly applies to this poor man.



There's no denying that Manav can make his own decisions, however, knowing the solemn situation they're in, it'd be a couresy from refraining to invite him to ensure that ovi in no way feels abandoned. If i were a mother like Archana, it'd be a bitter-sweet time. I'd acknowledge Ovi's heart-break with Manav over gleeing with joy at Purvi's engagement. I'd do all the joyous things when I'm with Purvi-Arjun. In a way, going to their engagement would be a indirect way of hurting Ovi and I wouldn't want that if I were Archana. It would hurt me. Since Purvi doesn't want Archana to be hurt, she'd insist that Archana doesn't invite manav. I would hope Archana is able to feel Ovi's pain.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I'm sorry but that's a horrible way of putting it. Ovi is his daughter, he needs to be there for her as a father. Not only Purvi but he shouldn't want to go to any engagement. You have to keep in mind the time-frame. Not much time has elapsed since Ovi herself got engaged. I think that's way too much to expect Manav to do for Purvi, the girl he just met a couple of months ago. No way is she on par with Ovi/Teju when it comes to deserving his love and affection.

As for Purvi being selfless, I'd like to remind you that even Ovi herself was very understanding of Arjun going to India before they got engaged. No one held a gun to his head to agree to marry Ovi. He himself declared himself Ovi's fiance. he is capable of making decisions. Okay let's forget all of that. Let's go to the current state now. No one in their right mind would keep reminding and gushing to a girl who just had a heart break about the love plans of her ex-fiance. That's just cruel IMO. No one is asking for Purvi to sacrifice, a little sensitivity would suffice 😊

I know, I was a little harsh but it's the truth. He told Purvi he will be there for her as her father. In my opinion, he is doing the best he can and fulfilling that promise as much as he can without hurting his first priority, Ovi. You are right, she needs him more than anyone and no one else has the right. The difficult thing is that the boy who idolizes him fell for Purvi out of everyone. Arjun messed up, we all do. But circumstances change. We can't force Arjun to marry Ovi now, it's too late for that. No one is gushing to Ovi about anything. She's just in the wrong place for this. Perhaps it will be better for her to go back to Canada but the problem is, Arjun will take Purvi with him to Canada in the future and Archana may also come along. What then? Archana and Ovi need to fix their rishta and Savita needs to stay away. That will solve all of the problems. Manav has made it clear many times over that if Archana says she wants to come with him, Manav will tear up the divorce papers. Archana needs to stop saying the truth will come forth one day and instead do it herself...the problem is that Ovi and Teju may not believe anything coming from her. Damodar needs to force Savita into disclosing it herself or agreeing to what Archana or Damodar say.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: shk281

Loving Purvi over Ovi is not fair, I agree. But honestly, wouldn't you have an extra soft spot for a girl you have raised and has loved you so much for 18 years in your biological daughters' absence? Purvi is literally Archanas dream daughter. While Ovi has done nothing but insult Archana over and over. Although she should, you cannot expect Archana to have the same place for Ovi in her heart as she does for Purvi. I mean althought he says he does, does Manav really feel the same way about Purvi as he does Ovi? How can you feel the way for a girl who hasnt once called you her aai but instead refers to you as 'that lady' the same way you do for a girl who has been by your side for the past 18 years when you have nothing else to look forward to in life.


The less said about Savita the better.( Although I love hating her, without her there would be very little drama in this show 😆) I mean who throws sweets onto the floor like that, especially a woman of her age! And why should Damo respect Savita, I've never seen her respecting him. And Damo wasnt disrespecting Manav, he was trying to open his eyes which he shouldve done 18 years ago!

Archana has never once asked Manav to accept Arjun and Purvi's relationship, she knows what the situation is. She has just asked him to make Ovi understand that Arjun loves Purvi and can never be hers. Archana did ask Manav to come to the engagement but did not FORCE him to.

And if Purvi was actually in Ovi's place with Purvi being obsessed with Arjun and Arjun and Ovi loving each other, would you expect Archana to be supporting Purvi?! Never. Of course she would try to get her to understand that she cant have what she wants and help her through it but whats the point of trying that with Ovi? Ovi hates the sight of Archana, why would she want to listen to a lecture about how wanting Arjun now is wrong from her

And Archana did insult Arjun, when he came to ask for Purvi's hand. And she hit him where it hurt. She questioned the very thing that Arjun takes the most pride in, his capabilities as a business man. What more could she do, beat him?

Also I dont think Purvi has made any mistake in this entire thing. Yes Arjun should have told everyone the truth the day he was getting engaged to Ovi but Purvi is so not at fault here. She had no idea that Arjun was already committed to be engaged with someone else. And the minute she found out she told him she couldnt see him anymore. I didnt see Purvi going crazy that Arjun was no longer hers when he had promised to commit to her as well. Poor thing couldnt tell a soul about her problem, because she knew all hell would break loose if she did.

Archana is not siding with Arjun and Purvi because she likes Purvi better than Ovi. No. Shes siding with them because they are both truly in love with each other and would do anything to be together. Now ignoring them to do 'justice' to Ovi is what would be unfair.

If anyone felt offended by anything, im really sorry! Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong anywhere😊


Purvi is similar to Archana, the woman he fell in love with and is still loving. So Manav does have a soft spot for Purvi. Manav simply talked in haste that day and messed up a bit. He probably said that since he declared Purvi his third daughter. He now has an obligation but moreso to Ovi. This is akin to Archana needing to side with Purvi against Ovi now..she did enough for Ovi for her love and it failed. She should keep to Purvi and forget about Ovi now..

honestly the Deshmukh-Archana rishta is apavitra. It's all about Arvi now.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: PandorasBox



I'm sorry but that's a horrible way of putting it. Ovi is his daughter, he needs to be there for her as a father. Not only Purvi but he shouldn't want to go to any engagement. You have to keep in mind the time-frame. Not much time has elapsed since Ovi herself got engaged. I think that's way too much to expect Manav to do for Purvi, the girl he just met a couple of months ago. No way is she on par with Ovi/Teju when it comes to deserving his love and affection.

As for Purvi being selfless, I'd like to remind you that even Ovi herself was very understanding of Arjun going to India before they got engaged. No one held a gun to his head to agree to marry Ovi. He himself declared himself Ovi's fiance. he is capable of making decisions. Okay let's forget all of that. Let's go to the current state now. No one in their right mind would keep reminding and gushing to a girl who just had a heart break about the love plans of her ex-fiance. That's just cruel IMO. No one is asking for Purvi to sacrifice, a little sensitivity would suffice 😊



Purvi has shown no insensitivity at all. She has not been gushing, she kept quiet when Ovi insulted her at the hospital, she let Ovi go into the room first, even hesitated to hold Arjun's hand. She didn't come a tripping to Ovi or Manav to invite them to the engagement so bringing her into this is not fair, I think. If you remember the PDA Ovi indulged in after she got engaged to Arjun, Purvi's public show of affection to Arjun is non existent.

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Posted: 13 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: PandorasBox



There's no denying that Manav can make his own decisions, however, knowing the solemn situation they're in, it'd be a couresy from refraining to invite him to ensure that ovi in no way feels abandoned. If i were a mother like Archana, it'd be a bitter-sweet time. I'd acknowledge Ovi's heart-break with Manav over gleeing with joy at Purvi's engagement. I'd do all the joyous things when I'm with Purvi-Arjun. In a way, going to their engagement would be a indirect way of hurting Ovi and I wouldn't want that if I were Archana. It would hurt me. Since Purvi doesn't want Archana to be hurt, she'd insist that Archana doesn't invite manav. I would hope Archana is able to feel Ovi's pain.



Just as there is (supposedly) no sorry in love, there is no courtesy or beating abou the bush between a husband and wife, even an estranged one. She invited him as a duty, being Purvi's mother and he refrained from going out of a sense of duty towards Ovi. Both did the right thing. As for Purvi understanding Archana's not being able to be at her engagement, I think we are expecting a lot out of a 19 year old, nothing wrong in that if we hold the other 19 year old (ovi) to the same exact high standards. If we expect one to be coddled and the other to act magnanimous, that is not practical, I fear.

As for Archana herself not going to the engagement that might be a bit extreme. I have often thought what I would do if I were in Archana's place. Initially, I would have done what she did, find the boy unsuitable for both girls but if it was proven to me that the guy loved one daughter truly and she reciprocated his feelings, I would not punish that daughter just because my other daugher had the misfortune to fall in love with the same guy. Why blight the lives of all 3 and doom them all to unhappiness? I would attend my daughter's engagement, it is one evening of celebration and I would owe it to her to be there and partake of her happiness. One evening as opposed to many evenings that I would be prepared and willing to spend with the other to make her understand the folly of remaining in love with someone who doesn't care a whit for her. One evening is not going to make a difference, giving one child happiness one evening should in no way undermine or be considered a betrayal of my love for the other child. Archana especially didn't need to make any sort of statement by not attending the engagement as Ovi doesn't want her anyway and has pushed her away the other several evening Archana has been there for her.
Edited by soapwatcher1 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#36

i dont understand one think why people always crushing archana and purvi because she support purvi and not ovi i know that ovi is her own daughter an purvi her adopted i know i also fill bad for ovi and because ovi cry for arjun,and suffer people fill bad for ovi and crushing purvi .but if instead of purvi archana support ovi dont you think that purvi will also fill like ovi fill she will not cry for arjun,she will not suffer like ovi then people will startt crushing for ovi and simpaty with purvi .if archana support ovi and not purvi she is good mother.but if she support purvi and not ovi then she is bad mother.and if she support ovi do you think how will purvi fill she will think that because she is her adopted daughter no one care for and because of thart no one adopted child will belive in their mother .atleast ovi has her family who support her and be with her in bad time but if archana support ovi then where purvi will go she has no any family.atleast she has some one who support her. and if archana try to speak with ovi will she listen to her not she once again start to crush her then why she will go and speak with her we always hear that daughter's and son always should to respect their perents even if they are bad perents you should to respect them because they are in god's place some people even not open their mouth to crush their parent's .but ovi always crush archana she should to think what will god fill if he see her crushing her mother even if she is bad mother.and purvi she never open her mouth .when ovi shout at purvi and blam purvi she even not open her mouth she keep quit.and if purvi fall in love with some one then what she can she do love is happen in somehere with some one this is not crime to fall and why she should to sacrfice if she know that arjun love her an dnot ovi i dont like this girle who scarfice her love for other's happenis and ruin 3 people's life. .im sorry if some one fill bad im not saying anything wrong about ovi but you also should to think that if purvi was in her place how will she fill.

Edited by sharona_bha - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: PandorasBox



While we both agree that Ovi needs to face reality, I disagree on the timeframe and method. To give you a drastic analogy, it's akin to having music and dance at a funeral. The feelings Ovi had for Arjun spanned since childhood. It's not easy to get over that so quickly. To add to the stress, India is a foreign land for her so she is pretty much confined to her family and the drama that goes on. I think it would have been much easier if Arjun had fallen for a girl that is not her mother's adopted daughter. All the love and affection given to Purvi is a dagger to Ovi's heart. We can all agree Ovi suffers from abandonment issues. She must feel low that her mother supposedly chose money over her (in her mind of course). She craves love and affection but has put up a wall. I think the best way for her to get over it is if her family takes her to Canada. In reality, if someone cheats on you, it is very rare that you will see him and the other woman on a daily basis and everyone rooting for them. This is the reality Ovi is facing at the moment. If the issues between Archana and her gets resolved, it would make Ovi a lot more confident in herself and have more courage to face her lost love.

PandorasBox superb posts by you...👏 Agree on All😃
@ underlined...I have been saying this from top of my lungs for the longest time..Time is the healing solution...Longer the love longer the mourning...Each person has their own timing to come out of a grave loss as such and to move on..Who are we to say it should be done now as Arjun-Purvi are in love..Its been only 2 1/2 since Arjun put that ring on Ovi's finger...a month or 6 wks since Arjun declared his love for Purvi and not Ovi..Mind you Arjun has been in India for only 5 1/2 months...
Archana loving her adopted daughter more than Ovi-Teju is understandable...Archana does not give up anything for Ovi taking away from Purvi...But Manav is constantly made to feel for Archana and Purvi..Why can't Manav take the same strong-assertive stand against Archana regarding Purvi..Manav has single handedly raised his kids so he must love them more too...Besides Purvi is nt even ArMan's biological daughter..She is adopted daughter so how are CVs showing this BS abt Manav loving her just like Ovi-Tej? Bevda damo calling her Poti is stupid in itself..Savita is right in calling it spade a spade..
Damo can talk to his son how ever he wants to but it should be done in privacy and not talk like that to his wife or son in middle of the family room with people around..What has he done for any of them in his whole life? Its Savita who raised Manav, Sachin and Vandu...Damo was an alchoholic most of their married life...SO his brain is fried...No matter how much you love your DIL , you never cross the line of putting her ahead of your own son...Whre is your loyalty? If u cant support your son than stay out...Zip your foul mouth..
Janhavi I do agree with you...Manav is a weak character but indeed a normal one...A man caught betweeen Wife and a mother...Wife has done a lot wrong and mother has done little..He has left his mother once for his wife...Has archana ever left Karanjkars for Manav? NO Never...As a matter of fact they just moved in at one time...Has cleaned Manav out financially.
The way Archana talked to Manav yesterday in kitchen was totally with the expressions of being indifferent to Ovi..She has not even recognized the pain ovi is going thru in her discussion with manav..Only thing she has done is come and annouce Arjun-purvi's engagement, now wedding in 15 days and telling Manav Ovi must move on and you must help her...Glad manav told Archana she has a role in playing how Ovi feels right now..
Best thing would have been for Archana was to either stay out of Ovi- Arjun-Purvi situation...If not dont rush...let the things cool off play out...Ovi recover...Instead of taking more time these people are rushing to shove Arjun-Purvi down Deshmukh's throats as if there is not tmrw...For crying out loud these 2 girls are somewhat connected due to the mother...Put your self into Manav and deshmukh's shoes to understand...In real life something like this would hardly ever happen..
yaar with us indians we dont even look at our best friend or sister's BFs...Let alone fall for them and marry...There was a very imp line crossed by Arjun with Purvi...I dont blame anyone for falling in love...But situations could be handled differently and maturely than this...Archana is not a great person with good thinking or decisions capability...Her jhansi ki rani attitude makes her take wrong decisions at a wrong time and the other personality of Mahan sanskari aurat lets go and sacrifice when she does not need to..Grrr character IMHO..Who I dislike the most is Manav character who is missing something big time 😡
Edited by Dabulls23 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Bhalla bhai...very interesting post, agree with you all...I will add my thoughts too soon, have to go somewhere now...Damo is some piece of work...with a hubby like him, happiness will just go out of the window...Man hats off to Savita for living with him still😡
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Posted: 13 years ago
#39

Bhalla bhai, I thought I will take your thread to discuss one point of debate that I had some confusion about. Many members pointed out that Achu did try to connect to Ovi, but Ovi has always insulted her. I always felt Archu didn't do enough to work on her relationship with Ovi. And if there were any attempts on her part it was too little too late. I wanted to analyze this as I felt that maybe I am biased and tried to put the events chronologically. I might have missed events, so please go ahead to correct me…

When Ovi first came to India, she was introduced to Archana as someone who works at her baba's office. People got pretty mad with Ovi when she asked her to call her ma'am. I don't necessarily see this as anything rude. Personally, the Cvs made a mistake here, I think. They should have had it as Ovi telling Archana to call her Ms Ovi, since that is how in the West a formal relationship is maintained. So, I personally didn't see anything wrong in it.

Then, I guess Archu went shopping with Ovi. Mind you to Ovi, Archu was still just an employee and (Archu knew but Ovi didn't), so Ovi just acted and interacted from a distance. Again, I found it normal, girls are taught to maintain a distance with strangers…Ok, now we might think, why she should maintain a distance in a Mall since she has known her for a while now and even went shopping together. But some people do need time to warm up. Girls in the west are taught to maintain some distance – it is a safety mechanism from predators…so didn't find it strange either…

Then Ovi's engagement happened, where Ovi was very happy and Archu gifted her diamond set. Found this act on Achu's part weird, since before that she told during Purvi's marriage proposal that she can't afford much, since she isn't wealthy…so the sudden selling of her bangles for Ovi's engagement was OTT, according to me.

Then of course, Savita revealed her true identity and all hell broke loose. Ovi, who never really connected with Archu, realized that the employee, who she was interacting with, knew their 'true' relationship, but she was kept in the dark. Obviously, she felt betrayed and then the truth about Purvi/Arjun relationship was revealed, it just aggravated the whole situation. Isn't this the sequence of Archu/Ovi's interaction - which I find inadequate attempt on Archu's part…

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Posted: 13 years ago
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look guyz u dont have right to bash other.Like we viewers i think Archana is also tired of that psycho girl and her grandmother...

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