Originally posted by: Jaishankar
Munni very good post once again.Well said yaar 👏
I kind of did not like the conversation over children on terrace which was not needed,it could have been shown in a different way but guess he just had to open up whatever it was to Archu.
But there are 2 sides of the coin if Manav cannot be forgive for taken his daughters unfortunately the seed of mistrust was put none other than Archu.
How come seeds of mistrust never are an issue with Archana .His mother gave her divorce papers , he took her kids away calling her an unsafe mother ..still Archana kept her faith in him and despite of her problems with Savita she kept her faith in Savita that she will not neglect her girls ...Forget just trusting him , she even made Purvi love him so unconditionaly ...How come nothing can shake up her trust in him ...It's all up to the person ...
Manav himself wants to think the worst of her all the time ...he talks about the Chawl issue ..what about Riya ...has he forgotten her .How he was ready to believe that girl and not his wife ...
Archaan did not make that into a big issue and certainly not big enough to keep grudges ...But Manav kept every little thing she ever did wrong ( according to him ) and wiped away all the good she ever did .
She trusted the chawl people more than Manav ,
Jai , I don't think the Chawl issue was that big that Manav just forgot about all the good she did for him .I agree that Archana should have listened to his side as well but Archana stood with the chawl grannies against the demolishon of the Chawl ..I don't think that was such a big thing for which Manav had to spoil her life forever .He hismef today loves the fact that the Chawl is there with all his memories intact ...and for that he has Archana to thank for ..Even Dk those days used to keep telling him that it was not a big deal and the project was not that important ...I would have accepted had he divorced Archana then for lack of compatibility ( that would have made more sense ) but what he did does not makes sense to me ...Look at how he ignored her throughout her prehnancy when she carrying the twins ...was that fair ???
she trusted Varsha more than Manav.Knowing about Varsha ,she gave Soham.
She gave Soham to Varsha only for the party ...Manav was giving Soham to Varsha forever ...because his mother told him that Sachin was getting neglected ...How can Manav blame Archana when he himself was ruining the poor boy's life to make his nephew and his mother happy by giving him away in legal adoption ..It was Archana who stopped the legal process or else Manav would have given up Soham forever ...
Everyone in the party got fooled by Varsha that day ..Even satish and Archana ...that was a genuine mistake ..No mother i nthis world would want her child kidnapped and then killed . Varsha had ben undergoing therapy for one year ..There was a certificate that she was cured ... Archana did not know that she is still sick . Manav was terribly unfair when he blamed Archana for the Soham accident ... when he himself was giving up this child forever . They both should have taken the blame equally and should have supported each other in this tragedy .
Archana suffered a terrible miscarriage once , almost died herself because she could not be operated due to lack of money ..I didn't see her blaming Manav then .
Manav had given in to her pressure and agreed to let go Soham but Archu just could not let go (That was a major blunder done ,first agree ,make ur husband agree and then she just could not do it on the day of adoption, this made Varsha total pyscho).Next thing she does just after so called treatment or betterment she foolishly took the child from Manav's hand and gave it to Varsha.Manav requested so many times but no she had to give it.After knowing all the mess her sisters had created in their life knowing Varsha now well after so much drama ,she just did that.One cannot forgive Archu for that.
Manav never asked Archana if she wanted to give Soham in legal adoption ...He just wanted to give up that boy away and immediatel yagreed to satish ...At least he should have asked Archana ..He should have never agreed for the legal adoption ..The legal adoption was his decision ,, he saw Archan constantly crying but he was still going ahead with it , he told Archana ' what answer will we give to Shravani if Sachin gets neglected " ...Archana 's biggest mistake is that she agrees with him to keep him ahppy ..But the main decision comes from him only .
A child gone is gone. IF Soham was alive (not sure) at the moment is assumed dead ,its a big hole and coz of archu's foolishness Soham was lost and that is a fact.On that particular day at that particular moment Archu made the biggest mistake of her life by once again keeping trust more on Varsha than Manav. She sowed the seed of mistrust there which would instigate any father which had happened.
Manav put Sachin on his back and climed the human pyramid on the sestival, Sachin had a terrible accident and got hurt ...Was that because manav was deliberately tryign to hurt sachin ..of course not ...Savita was trying to deliberately hurt Soham but she was never punished ...what Archaan did was a genuine mistake .Manav too had made a mistake when he left Soham alone in the room when he fisrt got kidnapped ..Archana did not blame him but he was so quick to blame her ..I am sorry I found Manav really unfair the way he treated Archana after the Soham accident .
But still Manav should not have taken the girls away ,as mentioned he could have slapped her but in anger his mind had become so unstable that he trusted Savita which was the biggest mistake there and send the tickets and rest is history.
In the current Scenario feeling jealous was not right from him he could have conveyed it with a valid reasoning in a better way but not this way.
Both are equally responsible for the mess they are in
I beg to differ here ..Manav is far far more responsible in my opinion ..Even Sachin is not that much responsible as he too has been taught to hate Archana by Manav and Savita .When he left India , he used to love Archana ...but Manav turned that love into hate ..and that is why Sachin is making these demands ...
Archana's biggest mistake is that she cares too much for this family ..She should only care about her daughters ...I am glad she said No to Manav yesterday when he told her to keep away from Teju .
,Archu is not ready to speak up and Manav is not ready to listen.Archu has every right to ask him why and Manav has very right to explain the reason. He allowed the hate to instigated by his mom into his daughters due to the hate he had.I think the hate slowly started by the lack of trust Archu showed over Manav in the chawl case and mainly in Soham case. And in that scenario Savita depicted that now Archu is just behind his money and wants divorce.Already in hate ,now he gets this he just did not think and just kept that hate sinked in his heart forever.During these 18 years just like Archu he had celebrated personally himself their wedding day ,never celebrated his birthday as he said and he never laughed(always looks lost).His laughter was lost.He had become a man devoid ,Archu's absence he felt through his daughters but just the hate did not allow him to see beyond.Hate is the reason he used to convince his heart not to contact Archu and then when he saw her everything came out and then Archu once again did the drama in Punni's engagement.(Archu should/could have talked to Vandu to know about her daughter at least.She did not have to talk to them but at least from her she could have taken an update on whats happening in her daughter's life which she did not ,she was wrong there.If she had contacted Vandu ,Vandu would have showed the pics of her daughter long time back ,for some reason she did not think and thats wrong there.)
Every time Manav abuses her it hurts him more and more(the emotional out burst and the pain in his eyes can be seen),every time he abuses he keeps questioning why why why ?hoping he will get an answer from Archu.But Archu for Sachin is doing a great job in depicting herself a worst women in the world.
If he cannot see Archana's love for her daughters , then he is blind .She is there all the time trying to help them out . He does not see this because he does not wish to see this ..And yesterday he gave away the main reason ...he is insecure ..does not wish to share his daughters with anyone ...
I don't know why he looks sad all the time ...makes no sense to me now ...It's definitely not for Archana ..Maybe he is angry that the robot does not follow all the orders ...or maybe he has stomach ulcers , thanks to all the hating he does all the time ( so he looks sad , hope he gets cured ) or maybe his throat hurts because of the screaming ...Go knows what the reason for his sad looks is ...It's not love for Archana ( I don't think so ) .
He just cant take his Devi Archu can be like this and he wants to know why and he is not getting answer.This has clouded his mind and heart and he has stopped thinking to make any sense of the situation.He just cant think and is forced to beleive the worst of ARchu which he does not want to.If he does not want to Archu i aiding by giving him mixed signals and confusing to the core in making him believe the worst of her.DK just did not mention to Archu over phone that Manav loves you a lot but when he comes before you he does not want to accept.DK has seen Manav suffer for 18 years ,he has been there with him and he knows it what it feels to be without your love.He has seen the same absence ,anger,hate,longing,suffering in Manav's eyes and heart for 18 years and hence he said what he told to Archu.
Manav should have never allowed Savita to instigate hate in his daughters.Even though he did not do it and as he mentioned he had no answers for them but he could have tried to avoid that.Dragging his children in this mess even though he would not have wanted to ,is the mess created for himself.He was too lost with himself I guess that as I mentioned his heart just wanted the answer to that 'why' question and everything got clouded.He just was so caught in his own world he failed to realize that his hate has been passed to his daughters as well.Manav should have tried to get hold of himself and try to avoid the hatred being filled in his daughters.
If Manav is a bad husband for Archu and a good human being in general then Archu had been a bad mother to Soham and a good human being.
Both Manav and Archana have been bad parents to Soham .Archana because the love of her sister stopped her from seeing the danger her son was in ...and Manav because for the love of Sachin , Savita and loyalty to Shravani he was ready to give up the kid away for good like some kind of unwanted clutter .
But only Archana got blamed and that was very very unfair ...
These have their own share of faults and are equally responsible for this mess.I will leave it to destiny and Manav,Archu to decide whether they want to re-unite or not.But one thing I will like to see is the same team work they used to solve Teju taxi issue and Ovi magazine one,and use this team work to solve their children problem.
Does Manav still love Archu or not or Manav does not deserve Archu and vice-vera etc is irrelevant now its too late .The point of concern should be their kids.
I agree with you here .Their own love story is stale , irrelevant and non exisiting now ..Archana should totally forget about all that and just focus on her girls and Manav to her should only be the father of her children and not the man she used to love once ...
After truth session ,I expect Manav n Archu to stand together and do the same team work to solve any issues for their children and be their backbone support irrespective of where their relationship stands.IF both decide to separate fine but they need to make sure that their children lives don't get affected any more coz of them.If Archu does not want to go back to Manav (I guess that is never going to happen as we all know Archu 😆) thats fine but both of them need to make sure that they support their children needs and make sure they dont get affected any further coz of their relationship.
I agree , the children have suffered enough and they should be spared .I don't wan tArchna to go back to him ... he should do what his mother wants him to do ...be a good son to her ..
Archana should only think about her girls .She made a big mistake when she followed his orders 18 years ago ..No more now .
Sachin and Shravani can have him ...Archana should just concentrate on her 3 daughters .
Manav is a very good man in general but he has been very unfair to Archana ( in my opinion ) and he has destroyed her life ..I hope he is happy and his daughters ( including Purvi ) never stop lovng him and taking care of him but only one request ...just keep him away from Archana ..Don't let him ( and his family ) hurt her anymore .
One thing I really admire about him is the way he has given a place to Purvi in his heart .That is a very very big thing to do .No wonder the girl is nuts about her dad ..Hope she too takes care of him like he takes care of her ..Purvi brings out the best in Manav for me ..The minute the show focusses on the Purvi Manav relationship ...one can see the generous and big hearted guy that Manav has always been ...
Maybe this one good deed of Manav will help him to clear a lot of clutter from his life .
For me , Purvi is Manav's last and only hope now .
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