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Tanyaz

@Tanyaz

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Posted: 13 years ago

#991

Well done Hiten , he did really good acting yesterday . It was an emotionaly draining episode and he did really well ...I hope now manav is always shown as a very good father ...

This will be good for Hiten ...

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suan

@suan

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Posted: 13 years ago

#992

Originally posted by: Tanyaz
no one is giving excuses ..When she is wrong everyone says she is wrong ...I am always the first oen to call her wrong ..But when Manav is wrong then he is wrong ...

Manav is an adult and his maistakes are his mistakes ...Just like Archana's msitakes are her mistakes ..Simple ...

And yes, even I feel that the change in Manav's character ( a good father who does not want Varsha to have Soham ) is to accomodate Hiten and to make him popular ...

I remember , when Sushant was manav , he was shown as such a bad father to Soham...he said yes to leagal adoption the minute satish said the word and was signing the paper and giving Soham to a mad woman ...he was never shown to play or pick up Soham and I remember we always used to complain about it and now how Manav has changed is just incredible ...

Ovi and Tejaswaini are the two girls ...

One of them will be nice and the other will be a brat ...

Tanya,

You've said what I've been saying a long time back. I agree with you totally!

Ekta knew that Sushant has a huge fan base and is the face of Manav. With him leaving the show, and the show still on air, she had to replace Manav. She knew that whoever replaced Sushant would have a hard time being accepted, as well as she had this huge leap planned with many new faces entering the show. To minimise any loss in viewership, Ekta had to ensure Hiten is accepted as Manav very quickly.

How to do this...change Manav's character drastically for the better while at the same time, ruin Archana's character so that even her fans will dislike her and will happily support Hiten and urge him on, as so many are now doing! One can see the extent to which Manav is now being shown as a loving father, compared to when Sushant played the role. When he was Manav, Manav hardly had time for Archana, much less the kids. He came home so late that even Archana fell asleep most of the time. How was he to get time with his kids.

The first time Manav wanted to take leave, to be with his family on a holiday, even that was cancelled! What do we get with the new Manav...him being very firm with his wife, and staying firm. Him reaching home on time to feed his kids and play with them. We see Manav holding his children very often. This has happened though Hiten has played the role for one month only. Sushant was there as a father for a year or more, ane he didn't get as many opportunities to be an active father, as Hiten has. I remember we all were so happy to see the scene where Manav and Archana entered their home holding Soham's hand! Imagine, we were overjoyed just to see Manav hold his son's hand! That should tell you alot!

Remember when he came home one day and Archana was dealing with Soham at the dining table. He acted childish in wanting Archana's immediate attention. Many people commented that he should act as a father, let Archana deal with Soham and then talk to her. They also said that when Archana went to the kitchen to check on the food, Manav could have changed Soham and then talk to her.

Sushant was shown as an irresponsible father, and on the rare occasion (kidnapping and talk of giving Soham to Varsha as that would cure her), on these rare times Sushant was shown as a good father. These were very rare when one considers how long Sushant played a father, compared to the very short time Hiten has played Manav, but has been shown to be a great father on numerous occasions.

All this was done for Hiten to be accepted and loved as Manav and for him to be the hero. Now Ankita can be the villain. Ekta at her very best!

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 13 years ago

#993

Manav is an adult and his maistakes are his mistakes ...Just like Archana's msitakes are her mistakes ..Simple ...

And yes, even I feel that the change in Manav's character ( a good father who does not want Varsha to have Soham ) is to accomodate Hiten and to make him popular ...

Manav's mistake was his REACTION to Archana's passive aggressive manipulation .

She had , at that point , tried a new passive aggressive technique . Oh Manav I just cannot MANAGE the 2 Kids . Varshu took such good care of Soham . Varshu knows how to quieten Soham . Varshu Varshu Varshu .

Savita saying what Face we will show to Shravani was OH SO NOT the reason that Manav went in for the adoption .

He had defended Archana in front of Savita . He had come home , tired and frustrated of this stupid kitkit and confronted his wife to hear

I JUST CANNOT MANAGE

And he had snapped .

Archana had WON . Manav asked her , This was what u wanted na ? She had mulishly kept quiet .

Things r never so simplistic . At least for me . Mistakes r mistakes , but Mistake committed DELIBERATELY , Mistake commited Due to MANIPULATION and Mistake committed unknowingly r 3 different things and must be evaluated THAT WAY ONLY .

Manav's mistake was his REACTION to Archanas passive aggressive tactics . He should NOT have said Oh Yeah , Lets give up the baby then if u just cannot manage ...he was tupid to love Archana to this extent that he decided to give the baby up , tired of her admissions of negligience and bad mothering .

His IDEAL REACTION shud have been OH YEAH THEN GET OUT OF THE HOUSE , LEAVE THE KIDS WITH ME .

He shud have kicked her THAT DAY itself .

So YES , He made a mistake .😆 But in my opinion his mistake was in his reaction to a passive aggressive manipulation .

Whereas HER mistake was not a REACTION but a deliberate instinctive one . She LOVED her sister , THATS IT . She WANTED her to have the kid ...always . She wanted that sisters participation in her kids life .

She ADMITTED to Manav that day that I fulfilled EACH of her ZIDS , only the BACHA ZID i cud not fulfil . It irked Archana that she cud not fulfil that ZID nd she tried to do it by lending HER KID .

The unborn kid was promised ...it died in miscarraige .

Later , Soham .

So yes , lets agree to disagree .😆

Coz I find it unfair to blame Manav for wanting to give Soham up coz he loved his brothers kid MORE than his own kid ...or for SHRAVANI . If it is implied that he loved Sachu MORE than Soham its unfair , if it is implied that he gives Shravani more respect than archanas maternal feelings for Soham its again Unfair .

Both were not the reasons . The reason was the rage that Archanas answer invoked in him ...I cannot manage our kids and I simply CANNOT do it . This answer with a servant AND two Grandmas to help her out .

Well he cud not give up his job and sit at home . He reacted angrily . Wrongly . But CULPRIT was the passive aggressive one . In my eyes .

That answer was used as passive aggressive tactic EVEN YESTERDAY .

Theres a PATTERN here .

Guess we will simply have to disagree on this this one .

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*Resham*

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Posted: 13 years ago

#994

I knw EK now very well, before the leap she wl make sure tht the misunderstandings goes clear btw Arman and then seperation follows, both would be shown craving in their hearts fr each other, but yes nw I think they wl not get divorced. Seperation wl follow for sure, since the leap is nw taking place on 7th of December, so 2 episodes wl go for creating and solving the misunderstandings.

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 13 years ago

#995

About Hiten being purposefully presented as this Manav .😆

I STILL disagree .

They had run out of tracks . This leap was coming up ANYWAYS . Sushant's contract ended and Sushant left as if he had been waiting for it . He had stayed on to complete his professional commitment and left the moment he completed it . Thorough profesional .

Had Sushant stayed on , he wud have got the same storyline . There was no way the story cud have been any different . TRPS were falling and PR part two was being planned since quite some months . These plannings r not done in one day or after an actor leaves . STORY WAS OVER .

Bringing in extra babies , one baby tragedy [ be it DEATH or a missing baby} a leap , a missing eVil Sister is POPULAR BALAJI STATREGY . It comes in a pre planned way in ALL balaji serials . See them to get their formula .

Had Sushant stayed on , he wud be part of same story .But he had his fill , he wanted out .

Hiten stepped in and got this part .

Balaji team is professional enuf to detect that it was perhaps for the best that The leap happened now . The viewers that wud have rejected a replacement for Sushant Rajput due to loyalty to him wud at least watch the leap out of curiosity .

But had Sushant stayed , then too this leap wud have happened as they had run out of stories .

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*Resham*

@*Resham*

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Posted: 13 years ago

#996

Well said Kools , and after ur take on this I fully agree, even if Sushant wd hv been a part of it, the story wd hv still been the same. Since nothing more could have been done as far as the story ws concerned.

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Tanyaz

@Tanyaz

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Posted: 13 years ago

#997

Originally posted by: *Resham*
I knw EK now very well, before the leap she wl make sure tht the misunderstandings goes clear btw Arman and then seperation follows, both would be shown craving in their hearts fr each other, but yes nw I think they wl not get divorced. Seperation wl follow for sure, since the leap is nw taking place on 7th of December, so 2 episodes wl go for creating and solving the misunderstandings.

Even I can clearly see how Ekta is planning all this ..Ekta desperately wanted Soham with

Varsha ..For the past 6 months she had been trying but the viewers just do not want this so she keeps changing story like Yo Yo diets ...

But now it is final , Soham is with Varsha and that is due to Archana's mistake but not Archana giving him away herself for good ( intentionaly ) .

I don't understand what you mean by misunderstanding getting clear ...I think the misunderstanding will get worse .I have a feeling that Savita too will stepp in because she keeps talking about revenge for the FDs ...even yesterday she said that she has to take revenge so may be she will do somethign now ...

Resham , I think Manav and Archana were always supposed to be seperate .Tha tis why Shravani was bought in and the writers tried their best to put her in Manav's life but because of the majority so against this , they had to reunite Manav with Archana ..The couple of Sushant and Ankita was so popular that everyone adored them and wanted to see them together ...that was also a big reason ...

But now I think if they want they can do it ...Hiten and Ankita are a different couple and the story now would be mostly about the children so now if they want they can show a permanenet seperation with the seperation ending just on the day the show is to end ...😆

that's fine with me ...I just don't want them to do silly things like the way the writers confused us so much with the Soham track and changing characters so much ( like they changed Savita's ) ...And of course I want good acting scope for Ankita and hopefully she shines even in the role of an older Archana ...

Edited by Tanyaz - 13 years ago

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 13 years ago

#998

Originally posted by: *Resham*
Well said Kools , and after ur take on this I fully agree, even if Sushant wd hv been a part of it, the story wd hv still been the same. Since nothing more could have been done as far as the story ws concerned.

Nothing more cud have happened as public were tired of stale stories of Dharmesh , Ajit , Shravni and Manju .

Also , even these actors wanted out .

Talks must have been going on for quite long

CVS r here to make money for Balaji . Who is playing Manav does not matter . At ideal time , Leap WILL be introduced .

In Kasam Se it was EXACTLY same Story .Piya played the evil sister who played havoc with Bani's life . Bani's twins died . Bani came back after a leap . Jai's sister was insecure like SAvita was about losing importancce in Jai's life after Bani's arrival ...Jai danced with Banis 3 sisters MORE than giving his sister importance .

Pattern is SAME . Whoever wud have stayed or left , whichever Manav , wud get SAME story of leap .

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Tanyaz

@Tanyaz

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Posted: 13 years ago

#999

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Guess we will simply have to disagree on this this one .

That's Ok ,what is done is done in the story ...Time to move on , even with difffernt way of looking at things ...

Let's hope that now the show does good TRPs and the future tracks are interesting ...I do not have any problem at all with manav and Archana getting seperated ..I didn't like the previous seperation but that was largely becuase of my love for Sushita ...

Now it's OK 😆...

as long as the story is good , I am happy ..And of course want Ankita to get good acting scope ...

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sushkita10

@sushkita10

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Posted: 13 years ago

#1000

i m very upset to see all in forum saying lots of negetive words for archana its not audience fault its for CV who may b ordered by ekta to show this character this way👏they r very successful. all appreciating HT as manav for his behavior with archana-THIS IS WHAT CV WANT TO MAKE HITEN VERY POSITIVE CHARACTER and all appreciate him AND ACCEPT HIM DILSA bt ankita frm starting of PR playing ARCHANA may GO TO HELL no prob with it.before 2months sush as manav want to GIVE SOHAM TO VARSHA FOR SACHU bt suddenly after HITEN come as MANAV he become very assertive and logical VERY FUNNY😆😆sorry if i hurt anybody

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