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Posted: 14 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: bhallarox



Oh no prasad, Sulo is not the only mother in PR, and yes Savita did not choose to be away from Manav. That was Sulo who separated a mother from a son and now she will be getting her karma.

I also hope Rasika shields Vinod as Sulo shielded Manav from his own mother.


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Sorry Bhalla didn't want to butt in but please do enlighten me.
Do u mean to say that Sulo was wrong in giving ArMan a place to live when mommy Savita unable to stand her bahu, threw her son out n even asked him to go n tell the world that ur mom threw u out coz u made ur mooh kaala?
Sulochana is not perfect but to accuse her of robbing Manav from Savita is not fair. Savita was on the verge of losing her son coz of her own mistakes n her meanness sorry it is not me who is saying it but repentful Savita herself told her son 😆
As for not giving the address, it was not really meanness by Sulo but a tactic to get Savita on the right track n it did work coz Savita did have a change of heart n went to his son who i'll stress was never ever happy without his mom.
Sulochana's n Savita's case r two different cases. Sulochana has been cheated for property n is being thrown out of the house, her mistake - she closed her eyes to Manju's single sin n misdeed.
Savita blackmailed... n put her son in a situation where he was compelled to take a drastic step. Vinod n Manav cannot b compared.
Now about the "shielding" thing. Oh i would love to see Vinod under Rasika's wings. He'll b like a maharaaja i'm sure😆 I, too want Rasika to protect or to use ur word shield Vinod. At least Sulo wont have a change of heart n will stay away from this useless son.



Edited by omshreejaanu - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
#62

There is a lot of comparison being done between what happened with Savita and what has happened to Sulochana:

When Archana and Manav eloped, Savita had every right to be angry but she took things to an entirely different level when she tried to kill Archana, tried to force Manav to choose between her and his wife and repeatedly insulting and kicking Archana and Manav out of her home even though they were there to take care of her. Savita was the one who was irritational and stubborn, she was the one who let the distance between herself and Manav go on for so long. I know she was ill but Manav and Archana made the effort to take care of her. In the end, fortunately she learned her lesson and is now happy with her life.
As for Sulochana, I agree with Kool about Sulochana and Archana being at fault for the monster they've created. When Vinod left Manju the first time, it was Sulochana who brought her back. The second time he did it, it was Sulochana and Archana who said bring her back for the sake of the kids. This is a harsh reality check for both. With that said, I still think what Vinod did to his mother was wrong. Not only did he trick her into signing over her home to Manju, the promo also shows him throwing his mother out of the house. There is no excuse for that.
Edited by bollywoodcrazed - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
#63
i agree with tm...

sulochana may not have been the ideal mother...she was a character with flaws but at her old age...she doesn't deserved to be cheated in the property papers & then thrown out of the house

what vinod & manju did...however sulo was is entirely unacceptable in all circumstances
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Posted: 14 years ago
#64

Originally posted by: bollywoodcrazed

There is a lot of comparison being done between what happened with Savita and what has happened to Sulochana:

When Archana and Manav eloped, Savita had every right to be angry but she took things to an entirely different level when she tried to kill Archana, tried to force Manav to choose between her and his wife and repeatedly insulting and kicking Archana and Manav out of her home even though they were there to take care of her. Savita was the one who was irritational and stubborn, she was the one who let the distance between herself and Manav go on for so long. I know she was ill but Manav and Archana made the effort to take care of her. In the end, fortunately she learned her lesson and is now happy with her life.
As for Sulochana, I agree with Kool about Sulochana and Archana being at fault for the monster they've created. When Vinod left Manju the first time, it was Sulochana who brought her back. The second time he did it, it was Sulochana and Archana who said bring her back for the sake of the kids. This is a harsh reality check for both. With that said, I still think what Vinod did to his mother was wrong. Not only did he trick her into signing over her home to Manju, the promo also shows him throwing his mother out of the house. There is no excuse for that.

well that is not completely true ... she did that just under frustration ... bcoz she was mentally ill ... she didnt want o actually harm archana

see it this way ... if she was really wicked & cruel ... then she wud had diplomatically brought archana in the home & then tortured her ... she cud had done some mischief with the cylinder & gas pipe ... so that when archana goes to cooking , a blast can happen & she will burn & die

y wud savita try to kill archana right in front of her parents & brother ... she knew very well that her maayka can immediately come to her rescue so der is no point of trying to kill her ... besides by doing it on the road there were so many witnesses & she cud had easily landed in jail

if she really wanted to kill archana then she wud had diplomatically brought her home ... then tortured & killed her in a way so that blame doesnt come on her head ... watever she did in front of archana's parents & on the road was just her frustration ... she didnt have that wicked intentions planned in her mind

this shows that watever savita did she did in front of everybody ... in front of archu's parents & in presence on manav ... this clearly shows that she never had double standards

whereas sulochana is full of double standards ... she made manav work like a servant during varsha's wedding ... & wen the happiest moment came in manav's life then she humiliated him in front of whole society

her himmat had increased day by day ... on 1st occassion she slapped manav only once & in the closed 4 walls of his house

but on 2nd occassion she slapped him twice & that too in front of whole society

b4 the first occassion manav hadnt done anything great for their family ... so she didnt know what a gem he was ... fine !!

but b4 2nd occassion manav had done so much for their family ... saved varsha from ashwin ... did so much in varsha's wedding ... provided them with money ... yet she slapped him twice forgetting all what was done by him ... she saw to it that poor manav doesnt get any happiness in his life by slapping him , by abusing him , & by letting her other children abuse him

so now y shudnt her butt be kicked out of the house by manjsuha

& honestly spaeaking watever manav did for karanjkars was lakh times more than watever archu did for deshmukhs

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Posted: 14 years ago
#65
Love and respect and trust wow its big word
But can u say I love my wife or husband or boyfriend girl friend when u don't love ur own mother who caried 9 month every mother goes some trugle to bring their children and yes human make mistakes but we can never give a mother a love because what ever we do we can give them the love they gave us
About vinod remember when he moved out and his wife said bring ur mother she can stay here he knew manju didn't like his mother but he bring her to his house we saw how he treated her I hated that traxk because I love my mother and if I have to spend the rest off my life serving her I will never get tired
Vinod don't deserve love and we will se how he suffers and manju will die trying to make him sing again we saw ajit so how can manju be nice when her mother and her brother can never be nice and
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Varsh made a mistake on her selfishness not because off solachna and ha I believe children make mistake not because that is the way but the bath they chose
A mother and father can never be some
Father works and brings food home and the mothe does everthing for u untill u die she carie us ac month she give us her milk and make us learn our language she make us sleep and happy so a mother being mistreated is wrong and I saw one case where the mother was slap because of her own dauther and the mother who slap get slap on the grand daughter so

What we do to our parent. Our children will do to us so let's treat them right
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Posted: 14 years ago
#66
I really don't understand .

The Law of Karma should be applicable to ALL mothers except Archana's mother . Why ? Coz she is the ever virtuous , lovely Archana's mother . In her case I see a dismissal of her doings and arguments that 'after all she is a mother na' .

Not just that I also see that karmic punishment is weighed and said ...its okay if she works like a maid under Manju but she should nOT be thrown out of her house .

Now I ask those who say this ...is not living under a bahu and working like a servant a veritable living death ? That is okay with some ...how come ? What makes this punishment less terrible than the throwing out one ?

Sulochana has not one but 3 rich damads . 3 daughters who will do EVERYTHING for her comfort the moment she is thrown out . She is NOT gonna be alone like Savita . Vandu did not come over to see Savita's comforts nor did Manav have time from his stupid Kholi romance . She was the REALLY thrown out one ...Not from house but from LIFE of son .

Who decides that HEY THIS MUCH KARMIC PUNISHMENT IS ENOUGH ? Working like a maid is enough ...what has happened now is a horror story and violation of ethics ...WHO DECIDES THIS ? This is an atempt to control the Law Of Karma with our SUBJECTIVITY .

And if so May I point out ...that for harassing Archana in the earlier stages ...WHY WAS SAVITA SHOWN TO LOSE HER SON SACHIN ? Why was a jail beating given to her old bones ? Why was she made to dance like a prostitute in Rasikas party and why was she subjected to the horror of watching her lovely daughter's horrific abusive marraige to Ajit the rapist ?

Do you mean that ALLthese punishments were karmically justifiable for harassing Archana as a mean saas ? Weigh the Karma .

She had NOT killed anyone that her son was taken away .

But when Karma ...God's whiplash for enabling evil came , it struck forcefully didn't it ? She paid for MUCH MORE than her actual sin .

Her actual sin had been being unecessarily mean to an innocent bahu ...and the fitting punishment for that was actually seeing HER daughter getting exactly the same treatment . Bas , The karmic punishment should have ended there .

It did not . Savita paid and paid through her nose . And glee was expressed saying She should pay MORE and MORE . Why ? Coz she disliked Archana .

It was NOT SAID that she has paid ENOUGH . This is too much . WAY TOO MUCH .

To top ALL these karmic punishments Savita got the biggest karmic punishment of all ...She lost her living son to the very girl she disliked . She lost him in such a way that he NEVER was her son again after the marraige ...He returned ONLY as Archana;s husband ...she was forced to swallow her dislike and accept Archana by going on her knees for fear of losing her son .

And SO MANY KARMIC PUNISHMENTS for Savita's one crime of disliking Archana were JUSTIFIABLE and applauded with GLEE .

Compared to her Sulo led comfortable life ...All grandchildren around her , a son who was dutiful uptill now , who checked on her even when seperated unlike Manav , A doting husband who peed at her command , 3 daughters who regularly visited maaika and had lovely Ma Beti weeping sessions with her in bedroom , a bahu who pulled on the sansaar of 7 mouths with HER JOB ALONE while the full family fed off her money when Sulos son was unemployed , damads who competed with each other in giving her gifts and throwing her parties .

This is the FIRST FATKA she got ...her FIRST whiplash ...a first one that HURT , really HURT ...and SO MUCH SYMPATHY is being expressed saying Omg No she is a MOTHER ...the Karmic punishment should not OUTWEIGH her actual karma . It is FAR MORE , the punishment .

But for Savita the punishments were not FAR MORE . They were ...Let me see ...JUST .

Who says Sulochana was wrong in giving sahara to Archu when she was living on the footpath ?

I do NOT say so . If damad's mom is being stubborn and NOT giving them a roof over their head ...Sure a mother should step in and help her daughter out .

Nobody faults Sulo for THAT . THAT was not taking Manav away .

But when that old lady came , walking in the heat to her door , repenting and keeping aside her ego ...A big thing , for ADULTS to keep aside EGO ...especially in such delicate relationships ...asking pathetically for address of her ONLY LIVING SON ...Who the hell was Sulo to deny it ? Especially when HER family had somehow been connected and morally responsible for the death of her other son ...Sachin ?

No I will oh so not agree it was ONLY truck Drivers fault and it was Girish's phone that did it . It was much deeper than that ...it was NOT so simplistic . Girish did not suddenly get up and cancel engagement of Sachin , the jailing destroyed all his future prospects and that jailing stemmed from Karanjkar bahu whom senior Karanjkar Sulo ALWAYS PROTECTED. Even Girish's cancellation , disapproved as it is by me , is traced back to Sulo's bahu alone .

Manav was not just her damad ...Manavs story was tragic .He was the ONLY living son of the old lady , THAT was his status . He was her damad LATER . HER SON FIRST .

Who the hell was SHE to purposefully not give it as a TACTIC To set Savita straight ? Just who put her in charge ? Just like WHO had put her silly daughter in charge to cure Savita with her idiotic Doctor Doctor and HATE producing psychology ?

When Sulochana HERSELF is so imperfect and needs tremendous straightening out , what gave her the self righteous right to put ANYONE straight by using TOUGH TACTICS and breaking Maharshtrian norms as set by our peers ?

What she should have done was give the repentant old lady water and immediately phoned her Beti and Damad and called them there . She should have stayed OUT of their private sorting out but shoud have , privately told them ...Enough is enough . It is not good to make an aged person go on her knees to this extent . She has come begging for ur address . Now u all go back and live happily , work on ur relationships .

THIS is what a mature adult shud have done . Not BS talk that YOUR LIVING SON IS NOW MINe ...WONT GIVE U ADDRESS And U KNOW WHAT YOUR GRANDCHILD TOO WILL LEAVE YA !!!!!!

It is HERE that she interfered between MOTHER and SON . She DID ...theres no two ways about it . And today she is paying by losing her son to her bahu and experiencing same pain .

She did NOT interfere when she gave sahara to Archu . She did interfere LATER when she took it in her hands to 'SET HER SAMDHAN STRAIGHT" . For the record she is also paying for NOT SETTING BOUNDS ON ANOTHER SAMDHAN ...RASIKA .

She showed arrogance with a poor woman who had no money and wose only living son was under her daughter's influence ...so much so that he had forgotten his basic duties of going and checking on his parents once in a while ...But she had no himmat to show arrogance to Rasika , who was a WORST samdhan wo set fire in her family time and again ...why ???

Coz she was afraid of Rasika . Yup . Thats the truth . No guts there ...it was Rasika Tai , Rasika Tai all along . Why were no TACTICS used with Rasika ?

Who was Sulochana to give Savita any reality check when she herself needed MANY ?

She is PAYING today for her insufferable self righteousness .

Just like no one could do a thing about Savita's horrific punishments that outweighed her karma , no one can do a thing about Sulochana's sad punishment too . Its the SAME for all ...exceptions will not be made for Archu's mommy .

Of course Vinod will pay . We all know that . What I would love to see is Manju paying later . Duno if we will EVER see it in this serial .

Till now Manju did NOT pay due to the immense protection of the two Chanas ...Archana and Sulochana . Lets hope NOW their eyes open .

Won't be surprised if they DON"T . A lady who can forgive the horrific miscarraige of her own child and YET continue relations with Manju by calling her Vahini as if NOTHING happened , I do NOT expect anything much from that lady .

She is known to give slaps and then apologise to the VERY persons she slapped . Like Dharmesh . Her slaps , frankly , have no meaning , as immediately after some days she does a turn around and enables the evil doer .











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Posted: 14 years ago
#67

Originally posted by: tiya229

the way i see it: to support a wrong person, is WRONG. To forgive manju was sulochana's choice. to protect her was sulochana's choice. then she must also, be prepared to suffer the consquences. when karma comes and bites, it doesnt see archu's mom, or savita... it simply happens...



ya , karma doesnt really differentiate , based on age , "likeability factor " or anything of that sort ...
savita abused archu , she had to helplessly watch her daughter vandu being abused by her MIL and hubby ...
rasika used to give lakhs to her son without questioning how and where it is being used ... she turned a blind eye to his gambling ..
end result ? she lost all her wealth and had to live in slums ...
varsha aborted without consulting her hubby , now she is craving for a child ...

and now sulo will suffer the consequences of her own actions..

( One difference between sulo and the other three - savita , rasika , varsha .. is she is more .. uh.. "soft spoken" ... but , for me , that is no reason to be more .. sympathetic about her plight ..)

And I hope , sometime in the future ... vinod and manju to get their just desserts ..
Like some people have already speculated , vinod is also going to pay for driving his mom out of the house ... hell , rasika might prod manju to throw vinod out of the house ...
So , vinod might be forced to take shelter under the same roof as his mom .. the mom he kicked out ruthlessly ...

( oh kools , just read ur above post .. mine seems to be a rehash of ur points 🤔 .. ah .. what the heck 😆 )
Edited by lunza - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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may be this is not a punishment at all..😆..may be she gets to live like maharani in Archu's house..😆..aisa abhi ho sakta hai,,i think mano leaving her is the biggest punishment for her..
About tolerating bad deeds..arman tolerated savita before,sulo tolerated manju..and satish tolerates varsha,now bhavana also tolerates her..vandu tolerates rasika..
all paid or currently paying for it..why they tolerate them?..to keep the family from breaking away..now they all pay for it..except for manju..for some reason..🤔
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: archanamanav

may be this is not a punishment at all..😆..may be she gets to live like maharani in Archu's house..😆..aisa abhi ho sakta hai,,i think mano leaving her is the biggest punishment for her..
About tolerating bad deeds..arman tolerated savita before,sulo tolerated manju..and satish tolerates varsha,now bhavana also tolerates her..vandu tolerates rasika..
all paid or currently paying for it..why they tolerate them?..
to keep the family from breaking away..now they all pay for it..except for manju..for some reason..🤔


satish should divorce varsha / bhavna and her hubby should go back to their other flat..
vandu should tell manav whats happening in her life ...
manav should tell ajit - "straighten ur ways , check yourself into a rehab .. otherwise I am taking my sister and niece away from you .. if you dare come near them , i am going to get a restraining order against you and land your b*tt in jail " ...

sigh , it is all wishful thinking from my side... i know nothing of that sort will be shown in the show ...
one thing i am happy about , vandu is working and earning ..
she doesnt need financial support as much as emotional support and a healthy atmosphere for her daughter to grow up in...
she needs to to back to the D's place ASAP ..


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: lunza


satish should divorce varsha / bhavna and her hubby should go back to their other flat..
vandu should tell manav whats happening in her life ...
manav should tell ajit - "straighten ur ways , check yourself into a rehab .. otherwise I am taking my sister and niece away from you .. if you dare come near them , i am going to get a restraining order against you and land your b*tt in jail " ...

sigh , it is all wishful thinking from my side... i know nothing of that sort will be shown in the show ...
one thing i am happy about , vandu is working and earning ..
she doesnt need financial support as much as emotional support and a healthy atmosphere for her daughter to grow up in...
she needs to to back to the D's place ASAP ..



solution is all breaking up🤔..so they all hope against hope that the people they love will change.. and keep forgiving them🤢

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