Kool's Commentary : March 8 PR - Page 9

Shucks.....AWW....Kool.....thats not fair.....Simply disagree sounds so agreeable😉

Originally posted by: malinn

Shucks.....AWW....Kool.....thats not fair.....Simply disagree sounds so agreeable😉

Hope to get some answers in your today's post...

I shall elaborate on my point about Vaishali.....that she was wronged, she must take stock and move on.....

Originally posted by: malinn

I shall elaborate on my point about Vaishali.....that she was wronged, she must take stock and move on.....

Thats what it boils down to.....we all make mistakes....some major and some minor.....it happens all the time.....What makes of that mistake and how he/she deals with it matters.....some people come out of it stronger and some lose it all.....To deal with it in the correct manner, recognising the mistake for what it is - separates humans from animals....

Now, here we can't go on the social evils of the Indian Judiciary and Indian Police and all will eat money and Dharmesh will get away free etc......What matters is that Vaishali must recognise that what happened with her, can happen to anyone......it also happened to Dharmesh's parents....they were also fooled by their own son.....she was not part of some elaborate set-up or people who wanted to dupe her deliberately......

Dharmesh really wanted her to be his wife in the sense where it mattered - in society and for his parents.....Possibly Dharmesh made a mistake with Madhuri......he realised that he does not want love her or want her to be his wife....so he agreed to get married where his parents wanted.....and thereafter to Vaishali.....His mistake here was NOT to first end his marriage with Madhuri.....If I am not mistaken, Madhuri was aware of this when he got married to Vaishali..... he never duped her..... It was not like he was keeping her in another house as his wife and Vaishali in another.....

I don't think Dharmesh started out being the bad guy....the CV's have started painting him all black..... since he started out as a very promising character.....everyone loved the roly poly guy.....He was TRP material.....so, to keep him on the screen longer, they made him villainous...... the more they made him bad, the more people hated him.....

In the end, serials depict humans and their story's.......this is simply a story of bigamy where the other woman is Vaishali.....she is pregnant.....she has now to decide what she wants.....make herself bitter and spend her life living on Dharmesh's ill begotten money....and thus within his life's edge (always have him in her life in one way or the other).....or make a clean break......and leave it all behind, to emerge the stronger woman......

Originally posted by: naava

malinn, there are so many points for discussion you bring up on your posts...and now i need to get things done so i can watch tonight's epi 😆 😆 😆 BUT....i want to address just one issue you have written about.... I know you think that Dharmesh will be punished by 1) jail perhaps 2) loss of self respect in the business world 3) loss of only son respect. 4) etc. and that out of Vaishali's assessment should come a complete break from him out of her self respect, sever the ties and move on. You speak of idealism both for and against. But i think, if you don't mind an argument from the gallery 😆, that there are a few points you might have overlooked. 😉

1. When people talk about Dhr. getting off scot free, it really isn't about money, and it isn't about punishment. It is about responsibility. He has created 2 children (gasp, maybe 4 😲😲 ). Whether or not the mother of the child needs - or wants - the money, it isn't about her. Dharmesh himself has a responsibility to this child. Period. If he were to walk away without any support of his children...THAT'S THE SCOT FREE I think we are all talking about. You can't go around creating little lives, and walking away from them... It's wrong, and no court in any country would allow him to do that.

2. Whatever you might think about "holding your head high" and moving on...about "self respect, ego, self reliance, education..... to hell with your money..... Good riddance....." to use your words, those are noble ideas...but in the end...you know what malinn? they harm the child perhaps more than anything else that could happen to this little one .

You see no matter what Vaishali or anyone else thinks of Dharmesh, he is the father. This child will grow up wanting to know why his/her daddy didn't take care of him...he will long to have a relationship with his father...he wants to know his daddy, and know his daddy loves him. and IF he is told the Daddy is a scoundrel and a no gooder...If he is told they don't have any relationship to him anymore...this little boy (or girl) will lose enormous amounts of self worth, and suffer immensely. This is the reality...

3) So, the most noble thing, the most important act for Vaishali's self respect isn't retribution, nor is it severing ties and moving on...but it is to work out some relationship with the father that will enhance the life of the child....it is to respect her unborn baby knowing that feeding him/her with words of hate, anger and bitterness will hurt it. ...to understand that this child will want more than anything to know he/she was not rejected by it's daddy.

What dharmesh does with it is another matter, but it should never be Vaishali's role to sever that relationship...no matter how difficult for her. This is what motherhood is about...It takes a lot of maturity...but doing other wise will bring immeasurable harm to her child, to Dharmesh's child...and in the end, no mother can respect herself for that....

Hope it was ok by you to jump into your dialogue.w/kools ...i couldn't stay silent. 😛 😆 😆
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thanks for bringing up all your points ..i liked that.......for everyone to chew on.

Originally posted by: malinn

Thanks for your reply Naava......oh don't you worry......its just a discussion....nothing personal.....so the more the merrier...

.. 😆😆 we are merry aren't we.

I am a mother of two kids......so I did think of everything before I wrote....atleast from my own point as a mother...... i know Malinn...you are writing from your heart. But i have been a single parent raising two children and know how important it is to keep that relationship with the parent...unless he is abusive and that's different. It's not easy, but it is the right thing to do.

Now, Vaishali knows that Dharmesh is not a good guy......why would she want her son to know such a father ?.....because Dharmesh has actually shown he loves Varun and i have no doubt he will love this child also. because every child forms his opinions of himself and his feelings of self worth...not as much on the character of the parent but on how the parent reacts/responds to the child. Vaishali . to do it right . has to say.."don't love what he did, but love him for who he is ..your father.." IF Dhr. abuses the child, that's a whole different issue. Dharmesh wil always always always be a "good guy" to his son or daughter...ALWAYS. VAishali has a responsibilty to protect that...
.There is nothing wrong in raising a child without a father.....nothing wrong but very hard on the child...whether the parent is absent or present, the child dreams and longs for him. again, it's not about Vaishali. she can re-locate and tell her child that his/her father is no more...❓ you want her to lie? and move away from the whole family of support? from his/her grandparents..and be totally without family??????? ..and then at a later age, when he/she is old enough.....tell the complete and full story.....then let the child decide whether he/she wants to take it further or let it be......if this child is brought up with a lot of love, this child can grow up to respect women and his mother..... he will respect her if he realizes she lied to him and he / she did after all have a father????? omg... the child will have created a father in his/her imagination..a perfect one. you would rather that come crashing down than the child learn to love his father as is?

On the other hand, if he grows up knowing that he is an illegitimate child ......He will grow up thinking he is a b*****d......because thats what he/she will be.....so, that would be cruel......This child will grow up with anger and hatred.....only if the mother conveys the hatred...or the parent is abusive...

And as far as self-respect and ego goes.......it comes to the fore only under such circumstances.....when it is tested......A woman of substance would NOT want Dharmesh's name or money for her child....... Wanting his money under such circumstances would be mercenary....IT'S NOT ABOUT VAISHALI. IT IS ABOUT DHARMESH AND HIS CHILD. The child wants his parent's name and to know he cares enuf about him to support him...that's one way he assesses the love of the absent parent.

Whether Dharmesh is punished or not......whether he goes away scot-free......is a separate question......it deals with another issue - should the wrongdoer be punished for his crime - YES....How? there are many ways.......again. it's not about punishment. it is about responsibility..Dharmesh should not go scot free from his responsibility for the life he created

Should Vaishali want to stay with Dharmesh for her son'e sake - or want his money to raise the child - in the name of punishing Dharmesh......NO., NO, she shouldn't stay with Dharmesh.. unless he changes and really loves her but i think he loves madhuri too. She should live alone, with the MIL, with her family, remarry, whatever...it's NOT about punishment, it's not about her..it's about the child and his/her father... (i feel like a broken record...sorry 😆😆

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Kools reporting from base : Dharmu's Sachaai out in PR .

Yup . Out and HOW . In Front of whole K gang . And what a TOUGHIE . He FOUGHT BACK ! OMG he actually took on the entire K gang single handedly and fought back instead of snivelling or apologising ! The DEVIL has GUTS .😆😆😆😆😆 U gotta hand it to him guys . He is roly poly , comic but has b....s of steel . I felt a grudging admiration for THE GUTS .........not him , mind u , I know how NEECH and PAAPI he is . I cannot give detailed story today but This much in short I will say and come straight to comments .............Dharmu was caught , Dharmu was slapped by mommy , Dharmu showed his REAL UNREPENTANT ROOP and walked off leaving the Karanjkars scared after their initial righteous bravado .

Satish

The only person who analysed Dharmu PERFECTLY today was Satish . He correctly observed that Dharmu was doing FAKE FILMY BAKWAAS . I Love BOTH the women .......Dharmu was saying . His talks made no sense and reeked of falsehood . Satish noticed the big gaps in his false excuses .

Dharmu said that he met Madhuri as a receiptionist in Pune Branch , slept with her , impregnated her and married her secretly . The EXCUSE for hiding it from Mommy ? She wud NEVER BEAR IT . But Mommy had quietly borne all when he had cancelled an entire arranged marraige and married a girl from another caste at the last minute WITHOUT her permission . Dharmu hadn't even bothered to LOOK at Mom's thobda for permission . This means Dharmu's excuse that MOMMY SCARED ME was False . He kept the first marraige hidden coz he INTENDED to do BIGAMY without turning a hair .

Satish hit him where it hurts of course .........THE BUSINESS . He RIGHTLY said that a man who is a TRICKSTER in personal life can DEFRAUD in Professional life too . He decided to DISSOLVE the Partnership .

But the question is ......will this HELP Vaishu ? I am afraid NOT . Coz guys .......Vaishu is illegal wife and CANNOT Sue Dharmesh for alimony ...neither can she ask for a DIVORCE . All she can do legally is establish paternity of child and prove Dharmu is the father and claim compensation for the child . The child can have legal rights over all that is Dharmu's as HIS offspring . And now ........if Satish dissolves this partnership and Dharmu becomes a pauper or loses money ........who is affected financially in return ? Vaishali's child . If Dharmu becomes bhikaari , Vaishu doesnt get a dime . Coz its Dharmu who will be paying the compensation . Satish has to THINK this over CAREFULLY .

Satish noticed that his eyes were crafty and dry and had no tears of remorse . Forget the tears .........Dharmu had NO REMORSE , PERIOD . This was proven true when Dharmu lashed out .

When did Dharmu lash out ? When Manav walked upto him and taunted him that today he was more GAREEB than even him coz he had lost out on everything ....his Rishtas like Mom , Wife , sasural , Satish and wud later encounter Business losses also . Some people , wen cornered like rats turn UGLY and snap like Rats . Dharmu is one among them . He showed his HYDE ROOP and told Manav

Arre Hat ! I don't need ANYONE . If ANYWAY u guys r gonnna break relations with me , I will survive somehow .Its U guys who will be sorry coz I won't take RESPONSIBILITY financially of a single thing now [ meaning Vaishu and the baby ] .Go Check ur facts and determine who is at a greater LOSS .

Ugly words but TRUE . If he declines financial responsibility and decides to make Vaishu run around taking dates after dates in court , Vaishu will get grey hair and not a single penny for years to come . Not to mention society sniggering at her illegal status although its NOT HER FAULT .

Dharmesh bluntly told today that he ONLY cared about the BUSINESS . The women REALLY dont matter to him ........not even Madhuri as Satish pointed out . Satish understood it . Nobody else did . Madhuri has been criticized a lot in the forum and some have gone as far as saying she shud be prosecuted with Dharmesh for allowing him to do bigamy . I doubt that can happen ..........But I don't think , looking at Dharmu's ugly character that he even ASKED her before marrying Vaishali . She found out AFTER a month ......and by then Varun had been born . What Satish found out TODAY She had found out MUCH earlier ......that he was HARD as NAILS and if she threatened to SUE HIM , he wud drop ALL financial responsibility .Having no family like Karanjkars to back her nor adequate finances to fight him , and knowing that womanly tantrums wud lead to him stopping even the financial help he was till then giving to Varun ...Madhuri chose to only focus on acuiring help for Varun and NOT stop the financial flow . I wud not Judge her . Coz guys See what happens to Vaishu now .........I dont see a rosy picture for her . Madhuri was practical enough not to take him to a point where he wud DROP all financial responsibility as she had no other options . See how the FIRST thing he told today was I wont take any ZIMMEDARI .

If Archana felt MAJBOOR enough to bear abuse in 3 month stay and PROTECT Manav at any cost ........if she felt MAJBOOR enough to tolerate a SOUTEN ......why judge Madhuri so harshly guys ...cannot she be MAJBOOR for Her SICK SON ? Her excuse is far far better than Archanas excuse isn't it ? Coz I read Archu fans judging Madhuri . When child is sick Mother will even go and sell herself in the open market to protect its life .........The excuse itself is that worth considering . Archana allows her father to get heart attacks to PROTECT Manav , such is her MAJBOORI . Well guys . ALL have different majbooris . A sick Child is worth some adjustments in life , ugly and bitter though they may be .

Varsha advises Vaishu to DIVORCE Dharmu ASAP tomorrow . Has it not struck ANYONE that Vaishu can't divorce coz she is legally not his wife ? When the marraige itself isnt legal ........how can divorce be granted ?

Why was Manav taking out PERSONAL KHUNNAS and taunting about GAREEB etc in such a moment of crisis ...........was that the time to strut and taunt ? Shudnt Manav be focussing only on Vaishus problem ? Manav only suceeded in turning him UGLIER . He actually walked out with head held high , leaving all the Karanjkars open mouthed .

Its UPTO Madhuri to Divorce him and claim half the legal assets now . But I don't think she will . Why wud she ? She needs him for Varuns sibling . He is ready to take her and Varun to the US . He will get better treatment there . Souten and her family is finally OUT of her life . She isnt emotionally involved with him but focussing on her son . If this is the deal Desiny gave her she will make the most out of it . And She should .

Due to Archana and Manav's stupid handling of the affair and sitting on the truth so long ..........the fear of Satish too declined . Coz even before the truth came out today , Dharmu had decided to flee abroad . If Satish dissolves partnership , HE STILL HAS A OPTION .

Clever , Clever Dharmu . Practical to the last and not wasting a moment on DEFEAT or REMORSE but turning EVERY situation on the opponents and walking away victorious .That day on terrace Dharmu turned the tables on Archana and told her to shut up and join him in hiding his truth coz HER sister wud be at loss .Today the moment all broke relations with him , he disclaimed financial responsibility coz he still has HIS finances and a family ..Madhuri , Varun and perhaps a second child .

What a villain . Very bad one , but immensely practical . The Stupid Karanjkars cud learn a thing or two by sitting at his feet .

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If you read the above, highlighted in blue/underlined......you will agree with what I am saying.......It smacks of an analysis totally gone wrong....