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Posted: 14 years ago
Yes . Since I come from a traditional , conservative Marathi family , I feel incensed on seeing the parents , the baby , the responsibilities forgotten and her maayka all the time in that room . Our values .....the typical Marathi values r different , and this serial upheld tradition .......somehow I don't see it anymore . I dont like it at all .
Kool and Sid , I know when the characters do something wrong we blame them not the writers but in the case of Sachu we should try and see what the writers are doing .I hate what they are doing and I hate what they are doing to the character of Sachu but honestly , they don't know what to do with this character ...
They got him back and now they have made him just disappear .
Forget Manav and Archana , even Savita and Damodar don't take care of him ..They leave town , go to shoppings and eating out and Sachu is never ever there ...
Before the room used to have Sachu's toys and now even the room doesn't even have his toys ....It is like a the baby just doesn't exists ...The writers are really confused as to what to do with this character ...
As for Savita and Manav ......I will be very honest , I am kind of confused here what I want to see happen ...
Whenever Savita calls Archana a Churail and other nasty things , then I don't want Archu to go back to the house because I know Archana will take the abuse quietly and Manav will also just look the other way .....To be honest I don't wan tto see that at all ...Archana's memories of that house cannot be good ones ...she says they were but I think she is lying ...Few days ago she even told her mother ' I have to like Aie because of my husband because he loves her so much ' . And I am talking about the savita even before Sachin's death , just after the wedding ...dowry , dowry ....all the time dowry ...gold and more gold ....Poor late Kaka was the one always taking care of Archana otherwise savita was hell bent upon making chutney out of her ....
Even now her anger about losing on the money because of Archana has not reduced .....
OK that I was saying from Archana's point of view ......
I know the day she is told to go back by Manav , she will go back and try do her best but for now I can understand if she is a little scared about going back .....
From Manav's point of view ...I think what is coming between Manav and his mother is the fact that Manav is angry why his mother is not accepting his decision ...Let's say if he had married Shravani and bought her home and Damodar had thrown him out ...Even then he would have taken a seperate house ...kept Shravani there and would have never come to live with his parents unless they would accept him to live there with his wife ....
For him it is a matter of Principle more than a matter of love .
His major grouse that he told his mother was ' Archana knows what I want and you don't ' it was never that Archu loves me and you don't ....
When Manav makes a decision , he expects that decision to be accepted .... by all ....
Damodar was dying at one time and his dying wish was that he gets Archana back as his bahu ....did he listen to his dad ...no he didn't . One can call him the worst possible son then ..
But that is how he is .No one is allowed to come in the way of his decision ( right or wrong , that doesn't matter to him ) not Archana , not his parents not Vandita not Sulochna or Manohar , not Shravani .... No One .
Earlier his decision was to marry Shravani and love only Archana ....As long as his mother was going along with it ( it suited her to do so anyway ) and praising Archu and also giving love to Shravani as the ghar ki bahu he was very happy with Savita ....
The problems between him and Savita started when Savita stopped loving Archana and now he is married to Archana ( his own decision ) and will not budge until Savita gives in ....
He is a very very stubborn person ..Savita has no choice but to accept his decision ..he is not too bothered about what happens to Archu when they come to live ..He knows that Archu will tolerate abuse and will one day Savita will just get tired ....
One more thing ...I am 100 % sure that he will ensure that his parents have money and live comfortably ..Also very sure that he loves Savita hell of a lot ...I think more than anyone else in this world , it's just that he does not like anyone challenging his decisions ....
Edited by Tanyaz - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Tanya as i see it , guilt is not what PROMPTED her love for Manav . She was sheltered , he was the first man and boom she fell for him and she is a one man type . She will never be able to love any other man . If u ask me , she got the seeds of love during all the bonding that happened in their courtship days ...........the bangle scene , gajra scene , the omg we r both comfortable eating pav bhaji scene . Then during the first 15 days they slept apart , looking at each other with that bed in between , she FELL FOR HIM . The reason she went angrily with Sulochana upon seeing the photos was rather the anger Vaishu today feels for Madhuri .......she was , unknown to herself in love then and unable to bear them she didnt even give him a chance to explain and stormed off . The only thing was she didn't KNOW it then . Later peer pressure was too much but if u notice she was not removing the mangalsutra and keeping vrats for him although seperated . Oh yes she was in 'love' alright . By the time she fully got into touch with what feelings she was experiencing it was the day of her engagement to Satish ........she blurted them out very honestly in public . And to this date she has been honest with them . . She retraced during Jaywant phase due to guilt ..coz Sulochana had accused her that since u met Manav we have become zero to u . She felt guilt coz that was TRUE . Her world was Manav now , not her family . And that guilt prompted her to step back from manav .........it was a pathetic attempt in which she was trying to be strong but was failing miserably every minute and fyi she ran off the moment Satish told her to , grabbing the twig like someone drowning wud have . I see guilt for replacing her family . I see no guilt that prompted love for Manav ........Sachin 's death occured much later , she fell in love much earlier as I see it ., and that too , very instinctively . .

very very well said ..You have analysed Archana and her love for Manav so well ...None of Archu's fans ( including me ) have ever done such a good job ..Proud of you here ... well done ..Espacially the blue parts are so well thought ...You are so right .Archu was jealous when she saw those pictures of him with other girls ...she was young immature and yes she was in love ....
Even I did not see her this way at that tiem ..I guess with Archana we always expect her to show tolerance but I guess at that time she was being human and made a mitake .....
I also agree with the part that her guilt is for her family as she knows that she has made them zero in front of manav ...Espacially the time when he was in jail ...she was as if she was posessed ....
I think even Manav knows that before me she was Sulochna's little girl and I took Sulochna's girl away from her .....So many times she has verbally told her mother' I choose Manav over you ' .....He knows what Sulochna has gone through ......
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: Tanyaz

Yes . Since I come from a traditional , conservative Marathi family , I feel incensed on seeing the parents , the baby , the responsibilities forgotten and her maayka all the time in that room . Our values .....the typical Marathi values r different , and this serial upheld tradition .......somehow I don't see it anymore . I dont like it at all .

Kool and Sid , I know when the characters do something wrong we blame them not the writers but in the case of Sachu we should try and see what the writers are doing .I hate what they are doing and I hate what they are doing to the character of Sachu but honestly , they don't know what to do with this character ...
They got him back and now they have made him just disappear .
Forget Manav and Archan , even savita and Damodar don't take care of him ..They leave town , go to shoppings and eating out and sachu is never ever there ...
Before the room used to have sachu's toys and now even the room doesn't even have his toys ....It is like a the baby just doesn't exists ...The writers are really confused as to what to do with this character ...They handled Sachu very shoddily . They shud never have made Shravani give him up . Coz now they dont realize what to do with him . Very bad scriptwriting team .
As for Savita and Manav ......I will be very honest , I am kind of confused here what I want to see happen ...
Whenever savita calls Archana a Churail and other nasty things , then I don't want Archu to go back to the house because I know Archana will take the abuse quietly and Manav will also just look the other way .....To be honest I don't wan tto see that at all ...Archana's memories of that house cannot be good ones ...she says they were but I think she is lying ...Few days ago she even told her mother ' I have to like Aie because of my husband because he loves her so much ' . And I am talking about the savita even before Sachin's death , just after the wedding ...dowry , dowry ....all the time dowry ...gold and more gold ....Poor late Kaka was the one always taking care of Archana otherwise savita was hell bent upon making chutney out of her ....
Even now her anger about losing on the money because of Archana has not reduced .....
OK that I was saying from Archana's point of view ......
I know the day she is told to go back by Manav , she will go back and try do her best but for now I can understand if she is a little scared about going back .....Tanya the day Savita changes .......the charm of this show will go away . She has changed now .... she is much more humanized by CVS. If she calls Archana this way .....Aie chudail , come now , eat , I have served ur plate too ........or Aie Nautanki stop the work and go to sleep now ........Indian viewers will LOVE it , i am afraid to say . In her harsh talks a human heart can be shown and the paradox can actually be rather endearing . But if Savita says Archana Beti , So jao .......TRPS will start falling coz Savita has her own pull . So what I suggest is we shud not mind the cHudail dayan so much at all . Its just Savita , bas . But then she aint that bad , more human than Rasika anyday . She did NOT give bahu's mom tension by telling her asliyat of damad ......she saw her health ki halat and shut up . I really dont think she will trouble Archana like before .She will be gruff till Archu becomes pregnant .........then even that will melt away .
From Manav's point of view ...I think what is coming between Manav and his mother is the fact that Manav is angry why his mother is not accepting his decision ...Let's say if he had married Shravani and bought her home and Damodar had thrown him out ...Even then he would have taken a seperate house ...kept Shravani there and would have never come to live with his parents unless they would accept him to live there with his wife ....
For him it is a mtter of Principle more than a matter of love .
When Manav makes a decision , he expects that decision to be accepted .... by all ....
Earlier his decision was to marry Shravani and love only Archana ....As long as his mother was going along with it and praising Archu and also giving love to Shravani as the ghar ki bahu he was very happy with Savita ....
The problems between him and savita started when savita stopped loving Archana and now he is married to Archana ( his own decision ) and will not budge until Savita gives in ....
He is a very very stubborn person ..Savita has no choice but to accept his decision ..he is not too bothered about what happens to Archu when they come to live ..He knows that Archu will tolerate abuse and will one day Savita will just get tired ....
One more thing ...I am 100 % sure that he will ensure that his parents have money and live comfortably ..Also very sure that he loves Savita hell of a lot ...I think more than anyone else in this world , it's just that he does not like anyone challenging his decisions ....Thats true ......he doesn't listen to Damodar or anyone when he feels he is doing right . He is rather obstinate as a mule once he decides something . I wud not mind his staying seperate so much if he was shown visiting his mother , spending sme time dutifully with her , providing for expenses by quietly slipping money under pillow or something before leaving ...........NOTHING IS SHOWN . What I see is him constantly THANKING Archna , telling her she is the star of his life , constantly saying SORRY to her for the most miniscule of reasons [ rather phoney I feel at times ] telling SULOCHANA I dont wanna LOSE U [ thats a real laugh] and hardly having dialogue with his own sister but constantly talking to Varsha Vaishu . Tanya if its his DECISON to stay seperate FINE , no one is challenging it but WHY THIS ? Whats there , frankly to THANK Archana in two two minutes ? She has JUST begun her marital life , let her prove herself na, let some years elapse before u THANK her one day in the REAL SENSE for being there . That wud look more mature . Same with the phoney SORRIES . Archna Sorry ?Archna Sorry ?Maaf kiya na ?maaf kiya na ? Arre whats going on ? This is TEENAGE nonsense or what ? Show some maturity in love na ? U reminded me of Mother !Ur Devi ! What rubbish is this ? Didnt it STRIKE u by urself that forget even Savita , Damodar , his Dad cud have too been a choice to inaugurate this shop ? Why need Archu for these reminders ?Where Ur brain , ur integrity as a man ? And this has NOTHING to do with reverting his decision . Somewhere , such a teenage brain has come in Tanya in the rebooting of ARMAN's characters That it really sucks now , this PR .
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Posted: 14 years ago
Fifi, Hope, Tanya, Kool all here🤗 I m just visiting the forum after a long time or u guys r online together after a long time😳😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
u have been missing a while sid. where were you?
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Posted: 14 years ago
yes we are dude...isnt that strange😃
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Posted: 14 years ago
Just busy with uni and got a flu which lasted over a week Even right now I shud b studying😳 but I dont feel like studying🥱
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Posted: 14 years ago
yes sid like old times .😃 Meethi Tanya , Teekhi Kools , Balanced Hope and lazy one liner Fifs all together again .
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

yes sid like old times .😃 Meethi Tanya , Teekhi Kools , Balanced Hope and lazy one liner Fifs all together again .

HEY....i give two lines sometimes
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: PRnerd

yes we are dude...isnt that strange😃

You and your one liners ...😆

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